Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Jotch]

plain stupid, a very low IQ person.

Never underestimate the suprise powers of retardation

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

Russ is reasonably smart, or at least average, in an abstract IQ sense, but he's so mentally ill it interferes with his ability to be functional. I basacially think he is just the most narcissistic person on the planet.

Nah. I have the same degree Russ does. It was dead easy. The hardest class was legal research, but once that clicked it was easy too. 5 years for basically fill-in-the-blank paperwork classes is just sad. I actually made a shitty paralegal, but I could still write circles around Russ today and I've forgotten much of what I learned. Russ is just a tard.

 

[AnOminous]

Nah. I have the same degree Russ does. It was dead easy. The hardest class was legal research, but once that clicked it was easy too. 5 years for basically fill-in-the-blank paperwork classes is just sad. I actually made a shitty paralegal, but I could still write circles around Russ today and I've forgotten much of what I learned. Russ is just a tard.

If you want to know more than Russ about paralegal stuff, I'd just recommend reading Paralegal Practice and Procedure by Deborah Larbalestrier. It's a great reference book and has how-tos for all the stuff a paralegal would need to do. It would also be a pretty good reference work for a pro se litigant or anyone who has to deal with legal nonsense on a more than rare basis, i.e. how to write an effective C&D, do legal research and stuff like that.

 

[Marvin]

Russ is reasonably smart, or at least average, in an abstract IQ sense, but he's so mentally ill it interferes with his ability to be functional. I basacially think he is just the most narcissistic person on the planet.

I feel like he's more persistent than intelligent.

Persistence can definitely be a good character trait to have in the right circumstances.

Russhole just uses it for shitty reasons.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

Null's lawyer pointed out Russ is suing over the book, not the song, so the song shouldn't be in the lawsuit.

Hypothetically, doesn't that mean if Russ loses this lawsuit he can immediately file another over the song?

 

[Kosher Salt]

Null's lawyer pointed out Russ is suing over the book, not the song, so the song shouldn't be in the lawsuit.

Hypothetically, doesn't that mean if Russ loses this lawsuit he can immediately file another over the song?

No. The song was in the lawsuit. It got dismissed out.

 

[Thomas Talus]

No. The song was in the lawsuit. It got dismissed out.

With or without prejudice?

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

No. The song was in the lawsuit. It got dismissed out.

did it? I must have missed that. The song element was the only claim that made any sense at all

 

[Useful_Mistake]

No. The song was in the lawsuit. It got dismissed out.

Was it? Both Hardin's comments and what I can find from the Tenth Circuit suggest that it wasn't dismissed out.

Hardin:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.121906/gov.uscourts.utd.121906.65.0.pdf

10th Circuit actually ruled contrary to this assertion that Greer only sought damages for the one infringement (as Hardin's citation shows):


Further that court found that the song was also infringed upon:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.121906/gov.uscourts.utd.121906.53.0.pdf

Did I miss something? I know that the song thing was not abandoned on appeal because Russ' lawyers kept talking about it on end

 

[Kosher Salt]

With or without prejudice?

10th Circuit actually ruled contrary to this assertion that Greer only sought damages for the one infringement (as Hardin's citation shows):

Direct copyright infringement was dismissed out, with prejudice (docket item 38). Contributory copyright infringement is back in, since it was successfully appealed. I guess that includes both the book (Why I Sued Taylor Swift[...]) and one of his songs (I Don't Get You, Taylor Swift). So only one claim remains, but I'm not sure why Harden argued that there was only "one alleged infringement".

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Anyway, side note, Russ is required to propose a schedule by this Wednesday (14 days from the filing of the Answer). He's supposed to conduct that business with Harden directly, so assuming Null doesn't comment on it publicly before then, we probably won't know what's going on schedule-wise until they've agreed on it and a joint stipulation is filed. Unless Russ misses the deadline, in which case we might see something from Harden asking the court to remind him.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Direct copyright infringement was dismissed out, with prejudice (docket item 38

Direct copyright infringement was never a part of the case (see the complaint), only contributory. This is actually an issue Hardin raises in his motion for Joinder (that Russ can't just sue Null without doing anything to resolve the direct underlying infringement)

 

[Your Starter for 10]

It's not hard, people. The court ruled to dismiss the contributory direct infringements, except in the case of the book and or the song, however the appellate court subsequently overruled this. Thus there is currently a direct contributory infringement for all submissions except for the song and/or the book, which are both reverted to their previous infringement status (a priori incantatum compos mentos).

But I'd bet dollars to donuts no scheduling coordination happens this week.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

The court ruled to dismiss the contributory direct infringements, except in the case of the book and or the song

The court dismissed all claims, and the Appellate court revived the copyright one for the book and the song

 

[StinkySnack]

(a priori incantatum compos mentos).

I like the cinnamon ones.

 

[Consider Lizärds]

I like the cinnamon ones.

I had a cinnamon tort once. It was quite nice.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

Isn't this the furthest Russ has ever gotten in a lolsuit?

If I'm not mistaken, every other lolsuit of his has been laughed out of court before he can explain, this is the first time he's made it as far as discovery, hence why Hardin seems so vicious compared to Skordas. For the first time, Russ has to argue the case on it's merits point for point

 

[Poop Shoot]

He was actually in person for the Ariana Granda trial in front of a judge, so I would say it’s not quite that far yet.

Edited for spelling. 6.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

I hope he brings a HDMI cable this time.

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

Isn't this the furthest Russ has ever gotten in a lolsuit?

If I'm not mistaken, every other lolsuit of his has been laughed out of court before he can explain, this is the first time he's made it as far as discovery, hence why Hardin seems so vicious compared to Skordas. For the first time, Russ has to argue the case on it's merits point for point

He did manage to get a very favorable settlement from the bunny ranch. He paid for four hours with a hooker, she managed to beat the clock without having to suck him his penis, so he sued (or at least threatened to sue) and got a partial refund which he then used to inflict himself upon three other poor victims

 

[Debbie Macomber]

He did manage to get a very favorable settlement from the bunny ranch. He paid for four hours with a hooker, she managed to beat the clock without having to suck him his penis, so he sued (or at least threatened to sue) and got a partial refund which he then used to inflict himself upon three other poor victims

And then he STILL sued the Bunny Ranch and lost!

Probably isn't a good idea to say in your lawsuit that you already accepted restitution of 3 times what you felt you were owed, but are still suing the girl personally just for revenge