Horrorcow Murray Root / Lysik'an / Grimau / Ancient Guardian - Patriarch of the Crazy Autistic Fairy Headmate Family

mrae said:
Are we sure that the sons are supposed to correspond to the character's in "Lissa's" stories? Like, I can't wrap my head around a man using his children as the basis for this bizarre, sexual story he's got going.
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Mouse corresponds with the statement that he's leaving for a convention - I tracked him down via Duckstocktheparty and Midsummer Nights threads on fetlife. It's definately him.
Monster aka Jordan - the fucker's a stone and gem nut. Went to school for it. Sells the shit

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Do you think he's into this because the dom(me) hugs him and comforts him after he's beaten?
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Hugging and comfort, non-painful physical touch, etc. is all part of Dom/sub aftercare. To put it simply - part of being a Dom is providing the comfort and aftercare after a session. It's not all just about the pain. The aftercare is also a bonding experience/moment, where a sub is vulnerable and is once again, putting their trust in the Dom that the Dom will take care of them.
 
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Fangsofjeff said:
Mouse and Monster are for sure, they're Murray's kids and Baby's cousin if Baby exists. Dani was definitely real as well. We don't know about the other members of the family, though.
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I get the monster connection, but I haven't seen much evidence that Mouse is one of the kids, can you remind me of what the evidence was?

Also important to note that just because they're people doesn't mean they are real in the sense that Murray describes them - i.e, Monster supposedly fucks Cherry, the rarely mentioned retarded Asian that is part of his poly nightmare.
 
Yellow Yam Scam said:
I get the monster connection, but I haven't seen much evidence that Mouse is one of the kids, can you remind me of what the evidence was?

Also important to note that just because they're people doesn't mean they are real in the sense that Murray describes them - i.e, Monster supposedly fucks Cherry, the rarely mentioned exceptional Asian that is part of his poly nightmare.
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The body shape matches. He's short and shaped like a ball. He also likes getting abused, and Lissa has mentioned that mouse is into BDSM. He plays the bass guitar, which Lissa also mentioned.
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went out west to Cali with them. "Lissa" has stated "she" is in San Jose. FB Post in a San Jose musicians jamming group popped up for the time frame he is meant to be in Cali. Justin Huggins is identified as the son of Carolyn Dannette Root (nee Huggins) in the obituary from 2006. Justin attends Duckstock/Midsummer Nights Dream BDSM event - an event that takes place around the same time frame every year.After exhaustive googling, and I mean pages and pages and PAGES of the shit - discovered the only way to track this event down (now) is through Fetlife. The only way to know of the name change of the event from Duckstocktheparty to Midsummer Night Dream is to have either gone to the event in 2014 (which Justin Huggins did - as evidenced from public FB posts he made before leaving for said event that year) OR had seen the name change notification in the official DusckstockTheParty fetlife group. Knowing it is an event that he attends, and looking into the 2015 event mentioned in a forum post that I can safely assume comes from Seeb's forum(?) "Mouse" is going to leave next week for an event in Georgia. It "used to be called Dusckstock" - etc.

Furthermore, "Lissa" has described him in blog posts as being fat and smelly. Justin is the only fat one of the sons.
 
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Fangsofjeff said:
Has to be. He's definitely Mouse. So far Remington is the only brother who seems to have been left out of Murray's imaginary fecal fairy sex party. I wonder why?
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An earlier post mentioned that Remington was the religious one, while everyone else was non-religious. I want to imagine Remington as a decent stand-up guy with a loving family. His children sometimes wonder if their dad was an orphan, since he never talks about his family or has them over for gatherings.
 
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Xarpho said:
An earlier post mentioned that Remington was the religious one, while everyone else was non-religious. I want to imagine Remington as a decent stand-up guy with a loving family. His children sometimes wonder if their dad was an orphan, since he never talks about his family or has them over for gatherings.
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Huh. The rest of the family is definitely religious. There was a thread on Kintsugi where Grim and Lissa asked people to pray for their family because Grim's niece had been murdered. I think it might have been deleted though, now I can't find it. I've seen them mention Christianity a few times. They're believers, they're just not very devout.

Edit: Found it.
https://kintsugi.seebs.net/threads/murdered.3225/


It might be worth researching someone who goes by the name Ladytmara. It could just be someone Lissa cybered with, though.
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An earlier post mentioned that Remington was the religious one, while everyone else was non-religious. I want to imagine Remington as a decent stand-up guy with a loving family. His children sometimes wonder if their dad was an orphan, since he never talks about his family or has them over for gatherings.
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JFC I fucking hope so. At least one person in this fucked up family's gotta be normal.

Also, supposedly both Dani and Murray each had a kid already when they got married. Since Jordan appears to be the youngest, I'd say Remmy's the oldest.

Now here's a theory nobody's touched on yet about the sons.

Murray, as Grim on Tumblr states he's sired 3 sons. He married Lori Mae in 1983, and then HE filed for divorce in 1988. According to Justin's FB, he's 27 (as of around 9/8/2016), that would make him born in 1989. Dani and Murray had to have married sometime between his divorce from Lori Mae in 88 and Dani's bad checks arrest in 91 - during that time Justin was also born. It might be that Justin was conceived and born outside of wedlock and IS actually Murray's biological son. THEN they got married after, and later down the line had Jordan.

Dani would have been about 19 when Murray divorced Lori Mae. She still had her maiden name of Huggins, so unless she married and divorced quickly, and legally changed her name back to Huggins, I think Murray might have been her only husband. Also, Murray would have been about... what, 30-something.
 
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Xarpho said:
An earlier post mentioned that Remington was the religious one, while everyone else was non-religious. I want to imagine Remington as a decent stand-up guy with a loving family. His children sometimes wonder if their dad was an orphan, since he never talks about his family or has them over for gatherings.
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I made that post, will try to retrack down that Remington post and screenshot it.
 
Southern Belle said:
JFC I fucking hope so. At least one person in this fucked up family's gotta be normal.

Also, supposedly both Dani and Murray each had a kid already when they got married. Since Jordan appears to be the youngest, I'd say Remmy's the oldest.

Now here's a theory nobody's touched on yet about the sons.

Murray, as Grim on Tumblr states he's sired 3 sons. He married Lori Mae in 1983, and then HE filed for divorce in 1988. According to Justin's FB, he's 27 (as of around 9/8/2016), that would make him born in 1989. Dani and Murray had to have married sometime between his divorce from Lori Mae in 88 and Dani's bad checks arrest in 91 - during that time Justin was also born. It might be that Justin was conceived and born outside of wedlock and IS actually Murray's biological son. THEN they got married after, and later down the line had Jordan.

Dani would have been about 19 when Murray divorced Lori Mae. She still had her maiden name of Huggins, so unless she married and divorced quickly, and legally changed her name back to Huggins, I think Murray might have been her only husband. Also, Murray would have been about... what, 30-something.
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I think it's safe to say that Lori is, indeed, Remington's mom. She has him friended on facebook but none of the other boys.
 
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Hugging and comfort, non-painful physical touch, etc. is all part of Dom/sub aftercare. To put it simply - part of being a Dom is providing the comfort and aftercare after a session. It's not all just about the pain. The aftercare is also a bonding experience/moment, where a sub is vulnerable and is once again, putting their trust in the Dom that the Dom will take care of them.
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Yes. When this type of "nice touching after horrible pain" thing occurs in any other psychological context, it's called "trauma bonding." It's the same thing frat hazing does -- by having been in a traumatic, scary situation together, you come out the other side feeling euphoric and like you are bonded very closely to your new brothers. But in the dom/sub relationship, only one person is being traumatized (and is therefore bonding that way). If in any other context for any relationship of any kind, one person engaged in traumatizing the other person and cycled back to being overly nice as a way to induce trauma bonding feelings in their partner, we'd think it was fucked up even if it was supposedly voluntary.

Once you look at who most subs are -- people who have been denied bonding opportunities and believe they're not worthy of bonding without trauma or have even lost the ability to do so -- it becomes very clear why the line about "BDSM is all super voluntary and not abusive at all" is such a lie. Sure, some people have nice, respectful BDSM relationships. And some (MANY) "doms" seek out broken, desperate people they can manipulate via trauma bonding and Stockholm Syndrome, and have the perfect terminology to cover it up as totally consensual.

When Mike Holland was attending to Julie Terryberry's wounds, it was pretty clearly part of an abuse cycle designed to make her dependent and unable to leave. But I'm sure he called it "aftercare," and a huge community is in place to normalize the behavior, so JT never even knew that what she was experiencing could have another name or psychological explanation.
 
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Mouse supposedly exhibited other weird sexual behavior besides being into pain and banging his cousin. For a while he thought he was asexual. I think this stuff has already been posted, but I'll post it again for the sake of conversation:
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Oh, and here's more evidence that Justin is Mouse. He's very opinionated and a know it all about religion.
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Other misc. stuff:
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Fangsofjeff said:
Mouse supposedly exhibited other weird sexual behavior besides being into pain and banging his cousin. For a while he thought he was asexual. I think this stuff has already been posted, but I'll post it again for the sake of conversation:
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Oh, and here's more evidence that Justin is Mouse. He's very opinionated and a know it all about religion.
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So basically, he's a full-fledged :neckbeard:. He even looks like the icon.
 
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Fangsofjeff said:
I think it's safe to say that Lori is, indeed, Remington's mom. She has him friended on facebook but none of the other boys.
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Also, Remington and Jordan both have the middle name "Lee" which kind of seems like one of those "first child inherits a name" things to me. (Justin's middle name is Dan, same as Danette's father. Maybe Lee is Murray's father's name?)

So if Remington was Lori and Murray's first son, it could follow that Jordan is Danette and Murray's first son, which would make Justin either
1) Danette's son from a previous relationship or
2) Danette and Murray's son, born out of wedlock (as Southern Belle said), which I guess disqualified him from the "family name".
 
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If this story is true, wouldn't everyone who's been banging Lissa and Baby have commited a crime since they are legally incompetent? I'm pretty sure incompetents can't give consent in certain states. We should look into that.

http://answers.uslegal.com/criminal/sentences/10803/
a) A person is guilty of sexual battery if the person, for the purpose of sexual arousal, sexual gratification, or sexual abuse, engages in sexual contact with another person: 1) By force and against the will of the other person; or(2) Who is mentally disabled, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless, and the person performing the act knows or should reasonably know that the other person is mentally disabled, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless.
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also:
https://www.myheritage.com/research...ln.Lysikan+lnmo.3+lnmsdm.1+lnmsmf3.1+lnmsrs.1

Not sure what's on there since you need an account to view profiles.
 
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