I like how Viv said she was influenced by Family Guy and South Park yet is oblivious to when they were being critical of religion. Those shows were infinitely better of handling that topic better than Viv ever could, which isn't saying much but you get the point.
Adam did nothing wrong.
Stuck in the 2000s is a good description because even Tumbrl now values character interactions and their identity boxes more than plot driven shows, and the decision to skip months for the pay off of "we're like family now and we love each other" just shows that she doesn't know how to explore characters outside of Devianart's ref sheets template.
Not sure if people are going to disagree with me here, but I feel like if you are going to write a show based on religion you have to treat that religion with some level of respect, even if you are criticizing it. That clearly isn’t what happened with Hazbin since Viv clearly hates Christianity and can’t view it under any other lens than what a teenage Atheist from the 2000’s thinks of it.
It's what I call Viz magic: Things just are like I say they are. Will explain the details later.
It's not for christians/by christians, it's for Tumblrites, by people who grew on "Christians bad, am I rite fellow atheists" media.
She should have read some C.S. Lewis.
There was the lego "Monkie Kid" one that was about journey to the west characters in modern times that I've heard was good. That one got gimped initial release wise by the fact they made it a china-streaming-exclusive for like a whole year despite it being in english and having chinese subtitles when that happened. Despite pretty much universal praise I've seen of that one there's like no actual advertising for it and it's sub-categorized into some "amazon kids" shit with infinitely lower effort content. I still need to get around to looking into the thing in full and haven't gotten to it for whatever reason which is kind of hilarious considering how monkey/ape content 's always kinda been my thing. That and skeletons, which that thing also contains. Honestly the only thing holding me back from sitting the fuck down and going through it is probably the fact i'm gonna be spammed with content farm and goyslop tier recommendations endlessly by the internet algorithms if I watch it the legit way. I keep getting reccomended out of context character interactions or fight scenes from that thing and they're just like consistently dynamically animated and weighty in a way that Hazbin and other "amazon originals" seem to lack completely. I'm guessing the reason story and characters are pretty consistent and not getting assasinated or "subverted" is the "China marketing attempt" factor which is kind of really fucked up but hey, at least there's quality and clear passion behind the thing's animation. It's still so fucking uncanny looking at Amazon hazbin compared to the pilot in how fucking stiff and floaty it is. You'd expect it'd be the opposite, because the lego show is literal fucking LEGO PEOPLE, but no, no the lego men move infinitely more dynamic than the pointy spiky "dynamic" characters with noodle arms.
You gave more thought to the source material than any of the writers.
Pardon? Have you actually read the Divine Comedy or Paradise Lost? Satan is in no way "cool" in those works. Sure in Paradise Lost he is charismatic but the more the story unfolds the more he sounds like a deluded crack head that start believing his own lies, claiming he totally wanted to be in Hell, because he's awesome.
I read it and Purgatorio and Paradiso, and I can remember about nothing about the last two. They were a struggle to read and completely uninteresting.
The thing with the Divine Comedy is that the Inferno is more memorable because of how Dante wrote God punishing these people. Satan in the Inferno is a mindless monster whose mostly encased in the ice.
I'm confused, its a streaming exclusive that you get by already being subscribed to prime, how is it financially sucesful? I thought the success of those things was measured by a combination of initial viewcount and staying power.
Isn't it crazy how almost refreshing that is when it comes to modern western animation?
Yeah this show really wouldn't be that out of place in the 2000s, kind of feels like a time capsule of that period of hot topic edginess.
I doubt Viv can read anything theology-related without being mindblown.
This is probably why a lot of people didn't get into it. I personally felt like it had Steven Universe vibes and the fanbase that it entails.
The problem I think is HH is trying to bring back the old 2000s era of animation without realizing what made said animations good.
Broken clocks are right twice a day.
Considering the shit with Hazbin combined with his breakup with his GF seems to be what got him in the state he is now, I think it's kind of cosmically relevant he voiced the Hazbin Eggs since he kinda "cracked" a bit after those events.
It's actually very well-liked overall. IMDb score is 7.7 (even masterpieces like Citizen Kane or Dr. Strangelove only get a user score of mid-8s on IMDb), while on Metacritic, the user score of 7.2 exceeds the critic score of 69.
