Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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Zelenskyi's evening speech committed to the change of leadership in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Colonel General Oleksandr Syrskyi will be the new Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as of tomorrow. "I am grateful to General Zaluzhnyi for two years of defense. I am grateful for every victory we have achieved together and thanks to all Ukrainian soldiers who are heroically enduring this war. Today we had a frank discussion about what needs to be changed in the army. Urgent changes. I offered General Zaluzhnyi to continue to be part of the Ukrainian state team. I would be grateful for his consent. Starting today, a new management team takes over the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. I want our soldiers in Robotyne or Avdiivka, the General Staff and the Chief of Staff to have the same vision of the war. I have had dozens of conversations with commanders of various levels. In particular, today I spoke with Brigadier Generals Andriy Hnatov, Mykhailo Drapaty, Ihor Skybyuk and Colonels Pavlo Palisa and Vadym Sukharevskyi. All of them are being considered for senior positions in the army and will serve under the leadership of Ukraine's most experienced commander. He has successful experience in defense, having led the Kyiv defense operation. He also has a successful offensive experience - the Kharkiv liberation operation. I have appointed Colonel General Syrskyi as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Today I spoke with Generals Moysiuk and Zabrodskyi. Their experience is in the service of the state. The year 2024 can be successful for Ukraine only if we make effective changes in the basis of our defense, which is the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
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Syrsky is in!

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Overly Serious said:
And I had my money on Budanov (sp?). What will this Syrsky person mean for us all?
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He's the one who organized the famously successful retreat from Debaltseve. He's also credited with the defense of Kiev and the counter-offensive in Kharkiv, but, well, those are a lot more on the Russians, for several reasons, than they are on him.

I expect incompetence mixed with a downright lack of care for casualties. Replacing Zaluzhny is more than likely a political move, also influenced by Ukraine's allies being mad that he didn't do what they told him to (how he would fight through the South of Ukraine and capture it with less men and equipment than his enemy is up to anybody's guess).
 
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Overly Serious said:
And I had my money on Budanov (sp?). What will this Syrsky person mean for us all?
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Corn Syrup Connoisseur said:
Syrsky is in!
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The Ukrainians think of him as being very Soviet. He was the one who is responsible for the only actually successful offensive Ukraine has had around Kharkov. But he is also responsible for the disaster of Bakhmut.

The general sense around the guy is he is bloody and willing to trade lives to achieve his goals. If that is true I'd expect more cases of Ukrainians being forced to fight to the last and more desperate and bloody defenses being made. If Ukraine had any offensive capability I'd also say he would try and conduct another one and get a lot of Ukrainians killed.

So if that is true I'd expect this to be good for Russia. Ukraine is running out of manpower and having a guy that seemingly is careless with the lives of the soldiers under his command is good.

That being said I don't know if he will act as he has in the past. He could look at the situation with Ukraine's manpower and decide to try and trade land for a better casualty ratio. That is what I would do in this situation. I don't think Ukraine can reasonably cause more casualties then they take but they could make it more even by being smarter about which positions they hold, how they hold them and for how long. They could also use their western equipment much better than they currently do or did use it.



Also interesting to note he isn't geographically Ukrainian. He wasn't born there or anything he just is along for the ride because his unit was stationed there during Soviet times.
 
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Lurkers OP said:
The difference is that Wiegand was not a known enemy propagandist and a pathological liar with an audience of drooling morons. People like Carlson are considered valid targets for missiles and drones as long as they don't hold American citizenship.
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Von Wiegand was literally accused of being a propagandist for Germany during WWI when the US was at war with Germany, and even his glowing obituary in Time says he was infamous for his exaggerated stories of his past and even he couldn't remember what was true or made up:
Separating the real from the legendary Von Wiegand would have been an impossible assignment for Von Wiegand himself. He took too much pleasure in embellishing the legend. Born in Germany, raised on an Iowa farm, he once told an interviewer that he had worked as a ranch hand for Buffalo Bill —a fancy so wild and appropriate that it has never been disproved.
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To be anal-ytical, the Hohols aren't done as a nation. Yes, they are in deep shit, but unless Putin nukes them Stalin style, they could recover. I'll explain why they won't, but technically they could.

Hungary, Poland, even Israel came back from much worse situations. Azov-kun is capable of impregnating 100 women a year. If they got a peace from Russia, they could keep their Oinky Reich Ripoff going. Not in a good shape but certainly not dead.

The problem is, of course, (((Blackrock))) and the great financial (((cartel))) they are indebted to. Those will drain them as surely as an occupying Red Army would, their hooked noses sucking up money like a mosquito sucks blood, leaving Hoholistan too poor and too worn to ever rebuild. Than they'll send in the niggers from Africa to "fix the economy". And that will be the end of that. To be a vassal of America is to be the most wretched thing on this planet.

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Male Idiot said:
To be anal-ytical, the Hohols aren't done as a nation. Yes, they are in deep shit, but unless Putin nukes them Stalin style, they could recover. I'll explain why they won't, but technically they could.

Hungary, Poland, even Israel came back from much worse situations. Azov-kun is capable of impregnating 100 women a year. If they got a peace from Russia, they could keep their Oinky Reich Ripoff going. Not in a good shape but certainly not dead.

The problem is, of course, (((Blackrock))) and the great financial (((cartel))) they are indebted to. Those will drain them as surely as an occupying Red Army would, their hooked noses sucking up money like a mosquito sucks blood, leaving Hoholistan too poor and too worn to ever rebuild. Than they'll send in the niggers from Africa to "fix the economy". And that will be the end of that. To be a vassal of America is to be the most wretched thing on this planet.

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Russia already controls the areas of Ukraine that produced something like 80% of it's GDP. All the best farmland, industrial centers, etc. Once Odessa falls then Ukraine will be landlocked with no port access. It's hard to imagine what Blackrock can do with Western Ukraine to get their money's worth out of the place. Even if they try that's not good for Ukraine as whatever profit is made gets shipped right out of the country to US shareholders, leaving the Ukrainians destitute with nothing left to re-invest in their own country,
 
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