Culture A ‘failure to launch’: Why young people are having less sex - For what researchers say is an array of reasons millennials and now Gen Zers are having less sex, with fewer partners, than their parents’ and grandparents.

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(Patrick Hruby / Los Angeles Times)

Vivian Rhodes figured she would eventually have sex.

She was raised in a Christian household in Washington state and thought sex before marriage would be the ultimate rebellion. But then college came and went — and no sex. Even flirting “felt unnatural,” she said.

In her early 20s, she watched someone she followed on Tumblr come out as asexual and realized that’s how she felt: She had yet to develop romantic feelings for anyone, and the physical act of sex just didn’t sound appealing.

“Some people assume this is about shaming other people, and it’s not,” said Rhodes, 28, who works as a certified nursing assistant in Los Angeles. “I’m glad people have fun with it and it works for them. But I think sex is kind of gross. It seems very messy, and it’s vulnerable in a way that I think would be very uncomfortable.”

For what researchers say is an array of reasons — including technology, heavy academic schedules and an overall slower-motion process of growing up — millennials and now Gen Zers are having less sex, with fewer partners, than their parents’ and grandparents’ generations did. The social isolation and transmission scares of the COVID-19 pandemic have no doubt played a role in the shift. But researchers say that’s not the whole story: The “no rush for sex” trend predates the pandemic, according to a solid body of research.

UCLA has been tracking behavioral trends for years through its annual California Health Interview Survey, the largest state health survey in the nation. It includes questions about sexual activity. In 2021, the survey found, the number of young Californians ages 18 to 30 who reported having no sexual partners in the prior year reached a decade high of 38%. In 2011, 22% of young people reported having no sexual partners during the prior year, and the percentage climbed fairly steadily as the decade progressed.

California adults ages 35 to 50 who participated in UCLA’s 2021 survey also registered an increase in abstinence from 2011 to 2021. But with the percentage of “no sex” respondents rising from 9% to 14% during that time frame, the increase was not as pronounced.

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The University of Chicago’s General Social Survey — which has been following shifts in Americans’ behavioral trends for decades — found that 3 in 10 Generation Z males, ages 18 to 25, surveyed in 2021 reported having gone without sex the prior year. One in four Gen Z women also reported having had no sex the prior year, according to Jean Twenge, a San Diego State University psychology professor who reviewed the data for her book “Generations.”

In an age where hook-ups might seem as unlimited as a right swipe on a dating app, it’s easy to assume that Gen Z “should be having the time of their lives sexually,” Twenge said.

But that’s not how it’s playing out. Twenge said the decline has been underway for roughly two decades.

She attributed the slowdown in sexual relations most significantly to what she calls the “slow-life factor.” Young people just aren’t growing up as fast as they once did. They’re delaying big milestones such as getting their driver’s licenses and going to college. And they’re living at home with their parents a lot longer.

“In times and places where people live longer and education takes longer, the whole developmental trajectory slows down,” she said. “And so for teens and young adults, one place that you’re going to notice that is in terms of dating and romantic relationships and sexuality.”

A slight majority of 18- to 30-year-olds — about 52% — reported having one sexual partner in 2021, a decrease from 2020, according to the UCLA survey. The proportion of young adults who reported having two or more sexual partners also declined, from 23% in 2011 to 10% in 2021.

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Though sex was on the decline in the years leading into the pandemic, COVID-19 made dating trickier.

Many people tightened their social circles when the pandemic surged in 2020 and 2021. And young people’s reliance on cellphones and apps for their social interactions only intensified when in-person meet-ups posed a risk of serious illness.

In general, people coming of age in an era of dating apps say the notion of starting a relationship with someone they meet in person — say a chance encounter at a bar or dance club — seems like a piece of nostalgia. Even friendships are increasingly forged over texting and video chats.

“A lot of young people when you talk to them will say their best friends are people they’ve never met,” said Jessica Borelli, a professor of psychological science at UC Irvine. “Sometimes they live across the country or in other countries, and yet they have these very intimate relationships with them. … The in-person interface is not nearly as essential for the development of intimacy as it might be for older people.”

Ivanna Zuniga, 22, who recently graduated from UC Irvine with a degree in psychological sciences, said her peers have largely delayed sex and romance to focus on education and career. Zuniga, who is bisexual, has been with her partner for about four years. But their sex life is sporadic, she said, adding that they hadn’t been intimate in the month leading up to her graduation.

“I’ve been really preoccupied with my studies, and I’m always stressed because of all the things I have going on,” she said. “My libido is always shot, and I don’t really ever think about sex.”

The sexless phenomenon has made its way into pop culture. Gone are the days when meet-cutes in bars leading to one-night stands and sex at college parties were the cornerstone of coupling in films.

In “No Hard Feelings,” released this year, a 32-year-old woman is hired by “helicopter parents” to deflower their shy 19-year-old son. At a party, the woman frantically searching for her date busts open bedroom doors where she expects to find people feverishly tangled in sheets. Instead, she finds teens sitting side by side on a bed, fully clothed, scrolling their phones or playing virtual reality games. Bemused, she yells, “Doesn’t anyone f— anymore?”

While there are practical benefits to waiting to be in a physical relationship, including less risk of sexually transmitted diseases and unplanned pregnancy, Twenge argued that there are also downsides to young people eschewing sex and, more broadly, intimacy. Unhappiness and depression are at all-time highs among young adults, trend lines Twenge ties to the rise of smartphones and social media. And she noted with concern the steady decline in the birth rate.

“It creates the question of whether Social Security can survive,” Twenge said. “Will there be enough young workers to support older people in the system? Will there be enough young workers to take care of older people in nursing homes and in assisted-care facilities?”

Zuniga, who plans to pursue a doctorate in clinical psychology, can’t imagine pausing her education or career to have children, so safe sex is particularly important, she said. Others interviewed said “horror stories” involving friends who contracted herpes or other sexually transmitted infections had turned them off from casual sex.

“I prioritize my studies too much, and I can’t fathom the thought of having my identity as an academic fall secondary to being a mother,” Zuniga said. “Moving out of the income bracket that you’re born into is so hard to do, and a very secure way to do it is through education.”

For Rhodes, not having sex has taken a lot of the pressure off social interactions.

“It lets me relax,” she said. “It’s not that I don’t care about how I look or how I come off to other people. But I have a little extra help caring less about it, because I don’t have to worry about attracting specific kinds of people for specific things.”

And she pushes back against the notion that shying away from sex is some sort of societal problem that needs to be “fixed.” It might even be a sign that young people have more control of their bodies and desires, she said.

“Maybe you don’t have to have sex all the time,” Rhodes said. “Maybe if you’re doing other things in your life, and you’ve got other priorities, or you just don’t feel like it, that can be a good enough answer.”

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Where is your Y chromosome going to go? What about normal children in general?
i don't care about that anymore
Ouch bruh

Most recent date I went one was with a nice lady that has a 150lb pitbull / mastiff mix.... Good God that dog was huge

However she did mention that her friend group (4 of them) quite liked me at the speed dating thing we met at.... So yay 😁 but the other 3 weren't texting me 🥹
i'm certain the 150lb shitbull provides zero insight into her personality or character whatsoever
 
Poor people still have more children, the economic thing is totally made up
yes, it's very responsible to take financial planning advice from poor people. if someone quit drinking or gambling because it was cutting into their budget would your response be "poor people still drink and gamble, the economic thing is totally made up?"
 
Both of my sisters met their husbands at work. One of them, it was a co worker, the other, it was a customer.

I met my wife online, but not in a “dating” context. I just DM’d her and there was a repoire, so after talking for a couple months we met up and it worked out. That’s the way probably half of my relationships happened, going back to MySpace days

My closest friends from when I was still in school all met their wives at work.
 
yes, it's very responsible to take financial planning advice from poor people. if someone quit drinking or gambling because it was cutting into their budget would your response be "poor people still drink and gamble, the economic thing is totally made up?"
No I would point out people in the past never seemed to care about the economic problem and probably wouldn't start now, either for drinking, gambling, or having kids. People look at the average cost of a kid and then say 'wow kids are expensive I cant afford that' but just feeding them is the bare minimum and isn't that expensive as far as ongoing costs go.
 
So anyone here had sex yet or are we being too hopeful to save the west?
To "save" the west first we have to get beyond "The only thing of value is sex and if you have had it"

But people are too busy screaming "Just have sex bro" like a Boomer, or "REEE INCEL" like a Tik Tok Retard.
 
I have a soft spot for young people today- a big problem is that by moving social spaces online, we don’t have the mysterious accidents of attraction that used to happen just by men and women being in proximity.

A large number of boomers and Gen x met spouses in malls, beaches, bars, parks, church… the “third place” that isn’t work or home, but seems to be almost gone.

I was the child of teen parents (16 and 17). Today this would be horrifying and I would be aborted, but back then the families just shrugged, planned a shotgun wedding, and assumed kids were a blessing and these two dummies would grow up in a hurry and things would be ok. And it mostly worked out.

There was just more acceptance of the variabilities of life because things weren’t so dire- we weren’t competing with infinity imported bugmen. We didn’t have to minmax because the system tolerated a wide range of lifestyles.

In order to have a professional managerial class, they need measurable metrics to manage. So everyone must be molded into the same shape, and differences hammered out. This is anti-human.

It feels intolerable. It wasn’t always like this. But it’s still the old days in little backwaters, and I hope they can keep the spark alive for when all this falls apart
 
People don't want to mention it but i'm sure the fat thing and lack of opportunities help this factor a lot, up until a decade ago it was normalized to shoot your shot and even if you sperg out it didnt reflect on you. Obviously not every failed skill check ends in a sexual assault allegation even today but if you're growing up and especially white it would feel that way. Aziz Ansari used to give relationship advice, now he's a rapist. I remember cousins complaining in '12 about getting groped in night clubs and having their moms just shrug "thats life". women had to put up with guys going in for a kiss at the end of a bad date or worse. Mind you its through practice that you end up great, every stud has stories about being a complete idiot, every dude does. But its not as accepted by white women anymore, it feels like.

As for the fat thing, women looking so unfuckable means ED happens more often, boners in the office used to be a lot more normalized because it was also fairly common, your average woman two decades ago would be more attractive than models today. you could fill an entire week of morning radio with calls from adult men talking about their accidental erections. now they sell ED meds every commercial break during sports.
. We didn’t have to minmax because the system tolerated a wide range of lifestyles.

In order to have a professional managerial class, they need measurable metrics to manage. So everyone must be molded into the same shape, and differences hammered out. This is anti-human.
exactly. its crazy listening to shit from 2007. you'll hear some 22 year old model get naked on stern and she gets asked how many dudes she fucked in her entire life and she'll go "5". your average 19 year old will have already moved out and gotten an apartment with 2 people and have a car and be able to still have enough cash left over to do shit all from their entry level job.

plus there was still a divide between internet people and normal people, so the type of person that was an incel (they were just called weazer fans back then) would end up online and could end up being the chad pussy slayer of their area on OKCupid. You'd be surprised how many nerds born in the 80s got married to some woman way above them in looks because she still sees him as the cool dude from the internet message boards that flirted with her at her most awkward and insecure.

I remember one teenager i knew struggling to live on his own back in 2018 from his entry level job. he slept in his car a few nights and struggled with health problems from working a manual labor job, he had an hour commute and lived with 5 dudes in the hood. He never had money for shit, he was straight edge too, his biggest splurge was a nintendo DS, which he played while normal people his age were smoking and drinking. the bullshit jobs people used to have just aren't there anymore to help people get on their feet. I know numerous people in their 30s that despite the college education and graduate degrees their boomer parents promised were a key to success are still bouncing between jobs and industries, still not better off than teenagers when it comes to financial stability. Still living at home and driving the same car they had in high school. Its arrested development on a large scale. You can't get that apartment minutes from home because they have a dozen immigrants living there and who would you be living with if you did?

And i'm only talking from an american perspective, europe has apparently been like this for much longer and canada has gotten it much worse. Beyond that i'm talking from a white american perspective, black america has been dealing with this since the 80s, thats a big reason rap caught on so easily with white kids. the struggles of a black dude in his mid 20s was relatable because niggers were still living at home with their parents, getting grounded and sitting around getting high and playing video games. Your average white dude in his 20s had a lot more going on and had bigger dreams than owning two gaming consoles.

Honestly i feel terrible for anyone born after 1997. You never got to experience a pre-covid city night life. That post-college, first paychecks and you spent it at bars and hanging with friends and cheap ubers and airbnbs and women practically eating out of the palm of your hands. the last decade has been dogshit. if you do manage to get laid there's a chance some mattress girl or brock turner bullshit happens and your life is fucked.

Nothing has returned to 24 hours where i am, whereas it seemed like everywhere was open at 4am.
 
People don't want to mention it but i'm sure the fat thing and
Say no more, say no more

Women don’t get this one. They’re like “just have sex with girls who aren’t attractive” and don’t understand that there’s a problem with that.

We can’t have sex if we can’t get hard. No argument will ever fix that.
 
Say no more, say no more

Women don’t get this one. They’re like “just have sex with girls who aren’t attractive” and don’t understand that there’s a problem with that.

We can’t have sex if we can’t get hard. No argument will ever fix that.
Yeah I mean even ugly people look 100x better when they're a healthy weight. Now nearly everyone is fat.
 
. No argument will ever fix that.
they genuinely don't understand. one of my simp roommates literally fucked up his eyes overdosing on boner pills trying to fuck his girlfriend after she went full anisa and he still couldn't get it up. She was such an unreasonable cunt as if people would also blame him that she made herself unfuckable. she openly refused to act feminine in any way. It did lead to a couple funny stories though, like him going to eat at subway and having to hide his throbbing boner from the stinky indian woman in the least attractive uniform on earth because he was that full of gas station pills.

the way so many women look and act now its completely understandable that so many dudes either are attracted to trannies or are trannies. there are plenty of trannies that pass better for an attractive woman than Anisa or Hila Klein.
 
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