Careercow Wil Wheaton + Felicia Day - The "Man" who soy'd the World and the Fakest of Geek Girls, SJW sexual harassment fence-sitters

[Kulee Baba]

I want to call Wil a faggot, but that would be an insult to faggot.
Hmm decisions, decisions.

I think being a “Wil” is the worst insult someone could call another human being.

 

[FedPostalService]

Fun fact, the actor for Nog was nearly 30 years old at the time. He had some condition with his kidneys I think that kept him small.

It always felt like they had Nog and Jake’s names inverted

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

he kids that got added to Voyager later on no one had an issue with.

As kids no - but the show runners really hatted Mannu the guy guy who played Icheb - they killed him off in the worst way possible for trek and made it clear it was because they didn't like HIM, apparently he was still friends with some of the Voyager cast including Jerri Ryan (rumours are she has turned on him shortly before Picard) they sighted some comments he made as a teen in the late 90's early 00's about seeing Ryan nude or semi nude.

TBH though Trek has always attracted rather cunty actors for main rolls, Apparently the guy who plays Quark tries to be the mediator but doesnt get involved in any of the interpersonal drama, the only others from Trek I can think of that are meant to be decent people outside of Trek are Connor Trinneer (Engineer from Enterprise, an Michael from Stargate Atlantis), Nichole DeBoher (Ezri Dax), Dwight Schultz (Barkley from TNG) - Michael Dorn is on that list as well but I think it's mostly because he tries not to let Trek be the focus of his acting world and has some genuine misgivings about the roll and Trek as a whole.

I can't think of any other scifi shows off the top of my head that had child actors for more than the occasional appearance once or twice a season(aside from maybe Alexander from TNG I guess?

In Battlestar Galatica they made a specific nod to this in the Mini Series an the 2nd or 3rd episode of the main series with "Boxy" in the original series he was a kid like 6 - 8 years old who was essentially Westly Crusher with worse writing, apparently they wanted the kid back for the episode on the Fuel Processing ship where the Chief called a work strike after the kid got hurt but they couldn't get the original actor back for the roll, Other than that there is Cassey from Stargate the kid who was supposed to be a weapon that SG1 saved an was adopted by the Doctor and then brought her back for some story lines that made sense but she wasn't part of the team and was viewed as the kid they all saved and liked especially after the Doctor died off world.

The perfect anti-example is Carl from TWD the kid couldn't act and was shoehorned into some really bad story's in comparison to the comic books.

 

[Pedophobe]

Seaquest DSV

Dolphin Boy should have been just as bad if not worse than Wesley on paper but no one ever seemed to mind him. Maybe he fitted in better because the show was a bit cheesier and less pretentious than TNG.

Battlestar Galatica

I recall reading Boxy was meant to be a recurring character but wiser heads decided boy-in-space was a played out trope that didn't fit in with the rest of the show.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

I recall reading Boxy was meant to be a recurring character but wiser heads decided boy-in-space was a played out trope that didn't fit in with the rest of the show.

It was RDM put him in initially as a nod towards the original an the Studio Execs wanted it as a hook for younger audiences but RDM and a few others including Michael Hogan where dead set against it so it never happened thankfully.

The closest I have found to any serious thought of him being brought back was the Kid who got hurt on the refinery Ship, and an idea about him being a resistance fighter on New Caprica but that plot line was dropped, apparently the only thing left over from that was the Suicide Bombing of the New Caprica Police, but that was like a single plot idea that was dropped when they did a quick timeline workout he was 12 or 13 in the mini series an the same age in his only appearance since then and he would have been 14 / 15 so the ages wouldn't have worked out (even less so when you consider the optics of a kid blowing themselves up, especially in that era).

Apparently there was a deleted sceen filmed where Boomer an Starbuck where talking about him getting moved to one of the ships hosting Orphan survivors an Saul Tigh over hearing an making that drunk little chuckle into a mug of moon shine but the dropped it and it was only a screen test recording so not well acted or recorded right for air so they dropped it leaving what happened to him a mistry.

I will see if I can find where I read that archived somewhere because it was an unofficial interview with some of the staff writers on a fan forum over a decade ago now, but it really was interesting.

 

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

I mean, the kid appeal character is a trope:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KidAppealCharacter

They did this a ton in the 80s, but even before then, The Brady Bunch added in a kid cousin for a while, because the siblings were seen to be getting too old.

Wesley was just at the insufferable junction of Roddenberry's self insert and shitty always to a (perceived) dumb audience.

Anyway, Wil sucks. I can't imagine feeling trauma because of a puppet on TV.

 

[Travoltron]

I mean, the kid appeal character is a trope:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KidAppealCharacter

I always found it funny that Gene Roddenberry would always brag about how Star Trek was superior to Lost in Space because Trek didn't have a kid and a robot. Then Roddenberry makes TNG and puts a kid and a robot on the show!

 

[ZipDisk]

In Battlestar Galatica they made a specific nod

Nope, dropped storyline, they were going to make Boomer, Boxey, and Chief a family unit, but dropped the storyline.

They even joked that Boomer threw him down an elevator shaft while she was being a manchurian candidate. So you never saw the kid again.

The podcasts and deleted scenes were fun on BSG, but the writers strike put a coffin nail through that sort of thing. No one seems to remember the webisodes aside from the suicide bombing one. The Eight as logical serial killer one was much better, and people have no idea what I'm talking about when I mention it.

Jonathan Brandis was apparently very well liked by his castmates on Seaquest, but not by the writers, so he had a ton of frustration with the role. It's sad what he ended up doing.

 

[Rich Evans Simp]

Wil gives off massive pooner energy

Yes! He’s just so damn uncanny looking. He was a pleasant-looking young man on ST, but those features did not translate well in adulthood. He looks a bit like he has some sort of genetic, reverse-Progeria disorder. A bit like the guy from Children of the Corn.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

I think being a “Wil” is the worst insult someone could call another human being.

Legend has it that on one fateful day, a Jewish art professor shamed a young Austrian veteran away from his dream, claiming that his artwork was "Wil-like."

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

The Eight as logical serial killer one was much better, and people have no idea what I'm talking about when I mention it.

Yea that was a really good story for Geta, I honestly quite liked the 8's they had weirdly intresting rolls other than Boomer and Athena - I wish they made more of the Leoben's though especially after new capria.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

I always found it funny that Gene Roddenberry would always brag about how Star Trek was superior to Lost in Space because Trek didn't have a kid and a robot. Then Roddenberry makes TNG and puts a kid and a robot on the show!

As someone who doesn't even recall what Gene Roddenberry looks like, how much of Star Trek's success is his creative genius vs. the people around him? Star Wars showed us that the only reason the original trilogy worked was because Lucas was a nobody and the people around him had no problem pushing back and telling him "no," especially Henry Ford.

Wil doesn't actually care. It's just another opportunity for him to be self-righteous and bring up his abusive pappy. He will bring up his dad every chance he gets, and if there isn't a chance he will bring up his dad anyway.

He also made a post about getting an award for ST TNG. Instead of being happy about getting the award, he whined about being excluded from other previous events. Have a little consistency, Wil! You've said yourself that Wesley Crusher was poorly-written, poorly-received, and you were ashamed of playing him. Not to mention calling your mother an abuser for forcing you to be an actor. Maybe your co-stars just wanted to avoid triggering your ptsd by not including you.

Sometimes reality is that sad. Wil really is that much of a spaz. If you've followed li'l Crusher for awhile you'd know he's truly this pathetic. He's pretty much the avatar, the collective manifestation of your Funko-pop collecting softie soyboy.

 

[JustStopDude]

Jonathan Brandis was apparently very well liked by his castmates on Seaquest, but not by the writers, so he had a ton of frustration with the role. It's sad what he ended up doing.

I remember how huge that guy was in terms of popularity. I don't recall him being a bad actor, but he couldn't get work.

It's like one day, you stop getting phone calls and if you never stumble ass backward into a magic role that saves your career (say Travolta and "Pulp Fiction") you're fucked.

Even without taking into account all the rape and sex abuse, it's an cruel industry.

 

[Flexo]

And that ferengi kid from DS9 but that's still kind of a stretch

Heck no! People love Nog! (and as pointed out, he was an actor rendered small by a disease - was also in amnityville 4)

Everyone especially adored Nog after the show gave him some character growth and really did something with the character.

After he lost his leg in the war and everything? Fans ADORE Nog. He proved that with good writers, even kids can be great characters.

As someone who doesn't even recall what Gene Roddenberry looks like, how much of Star Trek's success is his creative genius vs. the people around him? Star Wars showed us that the only reason the original trilogy worked was because Lucas was a nobody and the people around him had no problem pushing back and telling him "no," especially Henry Ford.

Largely the same. Gene had some broad ideas, but it is a LOT of other writers (and trekkies can name them) who invented a lot of the concepts that would go on to be widely considered Trek "staples."

 

[ZipDisk]

In the DS9 documentary, they had the writers go to the white boards, and they took it fairly seriously.

They made Kira evil and killed Nog. Then Eisenberg died for real. Oops!

 

[Meth Kennedy]

I'm genuinely curious how a grown man can think to make that post and then look at it and go "yep this doesn't make me look like a colossal faggot" and then press send. I wish I could have sat there and watched him type that up just so I could see his process because I cant imagine it no matter how hard I try.

 

[LaughJoke2.0]

Seaquest is on Peacock and I recently in the last year rewatched the series.

As mentioned above, Landis was liked by his castmates and while Lucas was a boy genius trope he was also written to be a teenager. Meaning he was socially awkward and looking for guidance. Roy Schieder's Capt. Bridger became a surrogate father and within the story Capt. Bridger had lost a son and thus found a surrogate son in Lucas. Also, in season 2 they added Piccolo played by Michael DeLuise who became his bunkmate and surrogate "older brother" for him to get into shenanigans and help him sometimes hilariously with the ladies. This reenforced the fact Lucas was a kid and because of that he could be the butt of a joke.

Wesley is a Mary Sue and was self-insert for Gene WESLEY Roddenberry. Not only was the insufferable little cunt always right and the smartest little shit in the room he was treated as an adult. This little shit wasn't even enlisted let alone an officer yet he was treated like a member of the fucking command staff on the flagship. To make matters worse the little shit actor who played him knew he was the show's creator self-insert and hid behind gene's skirt meaning Wil was as insufferable as Wesley.

Landis nice kid off set who played a smart but likable and relatable teen.

Wil annoying cunt who played an annoying cunt.

The wrong one offed himself.

 

[obsdj]

The wrong one offed himself.

It'll happen eventually, and I, like so many others, will be there to remark upon how very unsurprised I am whilst simultaneously marveling that it took so long.

 

[Meth Kennedy]

It'll happen eventually, and I, like so many others, will be there to remark upon how very unsurprised I am whilst simultaneously marveling that it took so long.

How many narcissists kill themselves? I'm not a psychologist, but that seems like the last thing Wil would actually go through with. Very public and elaborate "attempts" seem more like his speed.

 

[mlanguishi]

Wesley is a Mary Sue and was self-insert for Gene WESLEY Roddenberry. Not only was the insufferable little cunt always right and the smartest little shit in the room he was treated as an adult. This little shit wasn't even enlisted let alone an officer yet he was treated like a member of the fucking command staff on the flagship. To make matters worse the little shit actor who played him knew he was the show's creator self-insert and hid behind gene's skirt meaning Wil was as insufferable as Wesley.

All this reminds me of what I think was the worst episode of TNG. The one where they all get 'drunk' and act like fools. Wheaton pretending to be drunk and goofy is some of the worst acting I've ever seen, by a child or adult.