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[Markass the Worst]

One of the troons that Jason sucks up to made an hour long anti-car video with him:
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https://nebula.tv/videos/philosophytube-why-we-cant-build-better-cities-ft-not-just-bikes

It's behind a paywall so I haven't seen it.

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Friendly reminder that this troon is a lolcow with his own thread that is over 400 pages long.

 

[JJLiautaud]

I'm just amazed the urbanists arent brigading the comments already

Its a very small channel and he did the ultimate no no video(Leo Frank was in all likelihood guilty) so i doubt it gets pushed to you unless you are already subbed.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Its a very small channel and he did the ultimate no no video(Leo Frank was in all likelihood guilty) so i doubt it gets pushed to you unless you are already subbed.

I can already see what the rebuttals will be, "that channel is just a right-wing troll." Jason in particular would definitely say that.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

What's the city and development? There are so many that its hard to know,

Houston, of course, the urbanists' least favorite city.

This one:


First, it's old (from the 1970s). This is what the same area looks like now. For reference, the old train station in the lower right is incorporated into the baseball stadium.


This is why so much land was cleared out. As it exists, "Houston Center" is just a few skyscrapers but was originally an elaborate city-within-a-city that had monorails, skyscrapers, and pedestrian space, all built on top of existing streets.


Plus, Houston also is one of the great examples of what urbanists like to forget: apartment complexes that are built in suburban areas. Almost every single apartment complex back to the early 1960s represents a part of town that was considered the "suburbs" and "on the edge of town". Acknowledging this throws a wrench into the "housing is expensive because of single family homes/missing middle" meme (which obviously they won't do). Every city does this--not just Houston.

 

[quaawaa]

Apparently, Europeans don't text and drive:

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[LaxerBRO]

Honestly there could be a whole fucking thread devoted to retards and their massive misconceptions of European infrastructure, laws, and everything else.

So many good points can be made:

• European "race" relations regarding gypsies.
• Why counties in Europe don't have birthright citizenship for illegal alien parents.
• The college experience in Europe vs US (especially with on campus students).
• Immigration and citizenship.
• The ease opening a business and the amount of regulation.
• Abortion regulations and how they were reached prior to Dobbs.

 

[quaawaa]

Houston, of course, the urbanists' least favorite city.

Yep. This is the current top post on /r/fuckcars:





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[Xarpho's Return]

Yep. This is the current top post on /r/fuckcars:

"You're pussies for not wanting to ride on transit!"
"Freeways are more dangerous!"

Well, which is it? Sounds to me like car owners are the true Chads for facing the bigger danger, or you're pussies for not driving because it's "too dangerous".

 

[CEO of Gay]

So many good points can be made:

• European "race" relations regarding gypsies.
• Why counties in Europe don't have birthright citizenship for illegal alien parents.
• The college experience in Europe vs US (especially with on campus students).
• Immigration and citizenship.
• The ease opening a business and the amount of regulation.
• Abortion regulations and how they were reached prior to Dobbs.

I think would enjoy such a thread. It would either be informative and entertaining, or an autistic slapfight between Amerimutts and Europoors and thus still entertaining. Possibly both.

Well, which is it? Sounds to me like car owners are the true Chads for facing the bigger danger, or you're pussies for not driving because it's "too dangerous".

Por que no los dos?

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Cars aren't nearly as hard on the ears as they make it out to be.

Then again these fucks try to say trains are quiet, so what can I possibly expect them to say.

 

[Soyjak Enjoyer]

One of the troons that Jason sucks up to made an hour long anti-car video with him:

Leaked documents showed that she was at one point payroll of the UK government to make covid propaganda videos. I wouldn't be surprised if this British feds made a similar agreement to start pushing the walkable city agenda. After all if I remember correctly the UK is also the country with the "15 minute" city where you get fined for driving outside your assigned sector

 

[Skeletonized Cow]

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[quaawaa]

So /r/fuckcars is hyping up Culdesac again, the off campus dorm for Arizona State University that has been advertised as a walkable neighborhood.

I thought I'd check out the reviews:

Another person saying that they don't want anyone who isn't a college student:

Someone saying they tried to view it but it was too hot to take a tour:


A positive review:

This is the type of person who orders delivery every day:


Someone else points out that the "reasonable" rent is high for the area:

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From a quick search, he appears to be right. The cheapest apartment at Culdesac is $1459:

Three stations up the light rail line towards ASU, you can get a similarly sized apartment WITH PARKING for $1250:

Now it is possible, though unlikely, that they charge a parking fee in addition to the rent, but their rent is $200/month cheaper. Even if they charge a parking fee, it would be nowhere near $200 a month in Phoenix. And if you don't need parking and they charge a parking fee, then they're still way cheaper than Culdesac!

In case you think I'm cherrypicking, here's a search of the area with the maximum rent set to $1400 (i.e. less than the cheapest Culdesac unit):

Culdesac is in yellow.

The unit I found, while in an older complex, has been nicely renovated:

So it's not like this is a dilapidated tenement.

Looks like parking does not, contrary to the urbanist meme, drive up rent prices.

The apartment building I picked out is in a better location with more businesses within walking distance and is much closer to the university.

Culdesac is the brown rectangle in the bottom right. ASU is everything to the left of South Rural Road and the random complex I found is the red pin.

Here's what's within walking distance of the car-centric apartment:

Google is hiding lots of businesses due to the zoom level and there is even more than that if you count stuff on the other side of campus.

These are the businesses near the walkable community:

Google is also hiding businesses here, but they're all industrial.
They have everything an urbanist would want to walk to including a UPS Depot and a fastener manufacturer.

Inside of the complex itself they have a restaurant, a convivence store, a thrift store, a spa, an art gallery, a bike store, a boutique that sells matcha and Japanese Kit Kats, and a store that sells extremely expensive "natural" shampoo:

I now see why the reviews said they were targeting a "certain demographic".

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Some more reviews:

If only you had a car and weren't limited to a single convivence store for grocery shopping....

A disappointed urbanist:


Looks like they're being used as an Airbnb:

The response from the owner makes me think that this isn't a sublet...

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Now that we've talked about the complex, it is time to showcase /r/fuckcars' complete lack of knowledge about hot climates:

It's February dumbasses. Tempe has a high of 72 and a low of 52 today. She wouldn't be standing outside in July.



No, the people with air-conditioned cars can easily travel from their air-conditioned house to an air-conditioned business.
The people without cars are trapped at home due to the heat:




Some dumbasses think you can plant a forest in the desert:









Arabs love their air-conditioned cars and their air-conditioned malls:


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Also, Culdesac is a VC-funded company:

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That's just money to pay for their staff. They've also raised $200 million (presumably in loans) to actually build their "car-free neighborhood".

Series A Announcement Post (Archive):

We’ve raised over $200M in real estate capital to make it happen.

Also, this is unrelated, but an example of how VC-funded companies bump up revenue:

In fact, all residents get $3,000/year in mobility benefits through a one-of-a-kind partnership with Lyft, Bird, Envoy, and Arizona Valley Metro.

Just make your startups buy from each other with your money! Who needs actual customers anyways?

$240 million for a small apartment complex in an industrial area sounds like an absurd amount of money.

I guess this explains why Hacker News is full of urbanist spam:

Spoiler: Full Size Pictures

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[Midwit]

So they're obsessing over some crappy, overpriced maisonettes that charge you for parking in one of the hottest areas of what's probably the most car-dependant country on the planet? I hate redditors so fucking much man.

 

[Path Wanderer]

Stereotypical soyboy calls out Urbanists for not understanding constituency politics and generally thinking cute graphics will lead America into Islamig Gommunism

 

[New Fag]

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Ok I'm just confused by them claiming this stadium is peak performance cause supposedly 100k people can get there without a car.

You can literally see cars parked on the greenery, and their website mentions parking in Yarra park and even lists alternate locations.

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[thejackal2]

 

[M3xus]

"Negative" in the sense that it sends a clear message the person speaking is a moron.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Arabs love their air-conditioned cars and their air-conditioned malls:

Love how some are arguing Arizona is the same as Canada. Lmao. Being close to Arizona here in Utah, we get some of that heat in the summer. It's ass. You drive your car. Can you walk? Yes. If you don't have water with you, you won't make it a mile. Arizona is infinitely worse.

 

[i440BX]

Love how some are arguing Arizona is the same as Canada. Lmao. Being close to Arizona here in Utah, we get some of that heat in the summer. It's ass. You drive your car. Can you walk? Yes. If you don't have water with you, you won't make it a mile. Arizona is infinitely worse.

I am not American, but Arizona wasn't in the past less populated? People today live in those states despite the high temperature because of newer technology.