Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Fapcop]

Avdeevka is home!

Some residents greet the Russian army.
Seriously stunned that civilians managed to stay there, though I guess it’s partly because of 24-7 drone surveillance that they know where the enemy roughly is, and don’t need to bomb totally blind.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Fuck around:
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Whether it was FSB, or the Ukrops who got rid of a spent asset, it gives me great joy to read that this traitorous piece of human garbage is dead.

The guy had arranged to fly a helicopter to the Ukrainian. (With two comrades aboard who didn’t know about it, and afterwards got tortured and killed.)

He got paraded in the media, like everything the Ukrops do, and never mentioned again.

Seems that the Russians didn’t forget about him.

Holy shit based Russia.

 

[Givi]

Fuck around:
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Whether it was FSB, or the Ukrops who got rid of a spent asset, it gives me great joy to read that this traitorous piece of human garbage is dead.

The guy had arranged to fly a helicopter to the Ukrainian. (With two comrades aboard who didn’t know about it, and afterwards got tortured and killed.)

He got paraded in the media, like everything the Ukrops do, and never mentioned again.

Seems that the Russians didn’t forget about him.

Unconfirmed for now. Age in the original report was off (guy who died was 33 - Maxim was 27 / 28 and the first to report was an obscure pro-Russian Italian newspaper. The name of the deceased was never reported before said newspaper published the story. As good as it would be, I doubt it.

Most newspapers are removing his name from their headlines.

I'm sure his time will come. The Russians typically don't forget this sort of stuff, may be 5 or 10 years from now, but he'll die.

 

[blackjack101]

If a NATO army gets involved, I am sure it would mostly be from ex-soviet block countries. But considering that iskanders with nuclear warheads have doubled in Belarus I dont think they would want to waste any more time and more military personnel against Poland and just drop a nuke on their army.

 

[Butterschmalz]

If a NATO army gets involved, I am sure it would mostly be from ex-soviet block countries.

Lets hope American boomers can step up.

Or some "ambitious" newcomers

 

[geckogoy]

Or some "ambitious" newcomers

One of the only time I laugh at nigger jokes is when they are mocking these adverts

 

[Pаzuzu]

"Borrel demanded permission from Russia to conduct an "independent and transparent international investigation" into Navalny's death, despite Moscow's statements that this is an internal matter of Russia."
Yes, let us do whatever the fuck we want, but we won't let you anywhere near the nord stream to investigate.

 

[Napoleon III]

It is time for one of those Hail Mary predictions. I am saying at the outset that there is a high probability that I am wrong.

I am going to assume that Robotyne is somewhat of a distraction. That doesn't mean Russia isn't fighting really hard to take it and taking it does achieve Russia's goals. That being said it is a flashy place to take and isn't that important as it is small town. It is also very far South meaning redeploying units from there to the north takes longer. There is Orekhov to take as well but Russia doesn't seem to take cities one after the other. This is in itself something I am not sure of. It just appears that way.

My theory is the Russians will be doing something with the Siversk Cauldron. It is the one place they haven't done very much action in. There has been action around Chasov Yar and Kupyansk and now Zaporozhe. The one place that it is possible and even good to do things that has been silent has been the Siversk Cauldron.

But I will say again this is one of those longshot guess that probably isn't true and I'm only making a prediction because I think Robotyne is some kind of distraction and I wondered what could be the thing after Robotyne. It could be Robotyne is a distraction and afterwards they will just attack Chasov Yar or Kupyansk or somewhere else. It could be Robotyne is not a distraction and they attack somewhere else anyway.

Likely not correct but fun to predict anyway and see what happens.


Enough Theory and argumentation have some videos.

Look at a bunch of destroyed vehicles around Robotyne.

Polish Ammo Found in Avdeevka.

Ukraine lost some much needed munitions in Avdeevka.

What I've heard (unconfirmed) is that the Russians were able to land infantry inside Robotyne on the southern and western sides. Doing that would have triggered a Ukrainian response because its always better to drive out a landing inside the city rather than letting the other side dig in. The initial landings in a city are always some of the worst fighting and the hardest to get information about on the outside.

That would also explain why things seem to be so tight lipped about positions. Usually all of the mappers agree with some occasional slight variations. They have not agreed on as much for Robotyne so far.

Impossible. The Ukraine command's job isn't to stop the bleeding, or tie up Russia and make them sue for peace. It's to retake Crimea. Anyone who looks like he's in the mood for giving up on ever retaking Crimea is getting sacked, because the reason America has Ukraine fighting to the last men is our MIC wants that naval base bad.

I had noticed that America and Britain have been very focused on damaging the Russian Navy. I don't see how Ukraine could even come close to taking Crimea.

Unconfirmed for now. Age in the original report was off (guy who died was 33 - Maxim was 27/2 and the first to report was an obscure pro-Russian Italian newspaper. As good as it would be, I'm skeptical still.

One of the theories is that this is all cover for the guy to "die" and then assume a new identity. I could believe that.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

"Borrel demanded permission from Russia to conduct an "independent and transparent international investigation" into Navalny's death, despite Moscow's statements that this is an internal matter of Russia."
Yes, let us do whatever the fuck we want, but we won't let you near the nord stream to investigate.

Yep. "Kindly, fuck off, will ya". Response isn't surprising

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

Newest Russian road:
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The Kholholy Parkway....newly paved with the best banderites

I am hearing that there is a Ukrainian Counter-Attack around Robotyne with 30 vehicles. If this is true this would represent an extremely large share of their vehicles being spent on Robotyne. I have also heard the Russians have pushed somewhat far into and around Robotyne.

I have absolutely no proof of all of this and it is all just rumors and it seems like there have been a lot of silence around what the Russian's positions are.

Have a video of strikes near Robotyne. Standard warning about dead bodies applies

Spoiler: Strikes

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30 vehicles doesn't like much . It's basically a company level assault if you look at it as a bunch of MRAPs or a mixed unit with some Tanks and IFVs and infantry..... unless they just yeeted all the M1s and Bradleys into the fight

 

[Gondola Enjoyer]

Lets hope American boomers can step up.

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Funny you bring that up, because the Croatian government is trying to push for 3 months of mandatory military service/training, and the upper age limit for getting called up is 55. Meaning, people who fought in the Yugoslav wars can just get called up for mandatory military service again.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

https://www.barrons.com/news/zelensky-says-situation-extremely-difficult-in-parts-of-front-97c2be63#

https://archive.ph/RijgI

 

[Strix454]

I don't see how Ukraine could even come close to taking Crimea.

In 2023, the idea was that if the bridge over the Kerch straits could be taken out that the supply problems of the Russians in Southern Ukraine and Crimea would become very serious. At the start of the conflict in 2022, the transportation links in the south of Ukraine controlled by Russia did not really serve east-west traffic well.
If Ukraine could effectively be land isolated from Russia or put at the end of long truck-based supply lines from Russia, the idea was that (similar to Kherson) the Russian would find themselves in serious trouble and that Crimea might eventually be taken.
So you had the great Ukrainian plan of 2023. The Ukrainians would drive toward the Sea of Azov in the east, destroy the Kerch bridge and then launch an attack over the Dniper River. Crimea would be isolated by land. Storm shadow and other anti-ship missiles would isolate it by sea and medium range cruise missiles would somehow put the airbases in Crimea out of action.

The problem with the Ukrainian plan was that it was totally OBVIOUS. So The Russians spent a fortune on counter-measures against every aspect of it. They built defensive fortifications in depth in southern Ukraine. They made the Kerch Bridge a very difficult target. They started building new transportation links in Southern Ukraine to end the logistical issues.

And thought the Russian counter-measures were obvious, the pig-headedness on the Ukraine/NATO side meant that they were still going to launch the plan even if it made no sense.

So they launched a head-on attack into fortifications at Robotyne which after months of effort and grinding up brigades made it past the outpost line to the main defensive line and stalled out.

And then, though there was no longer any reason for the river crossing operation over the Dniper and no chance of it being successful, they did it anyway. To no useful purpose.

There was maybe a window for attacking toward Crimea in the early months of 2023. But by the Spring of 2023, it was over.

 

[jeff7989]

What an entitled prick. Why cant Lviyyw Lwów setup their own ammo factories?
Edit. Sorry piggies, Lwów is Polish clay.

 

[Corn Syrup Connoisseur]

30 vehicles doesn't like much . It's basically a company level assault if you look at it as a bunch of MRAPs or a mixed unit with some Tanks and IFVs and infantry..... unless they just yeeted all the M1s and Bradleys into the fight

Robotyne has only one Ukrainian controlled road leading to it, and going through fields during this season, especially with wheeled overweight vehicles is nigh impossible so that is out of the question.
For Ukrainians using that amount of vehicles for a single attack in such a small area is counteroffensyiv levels.

Spoiler: Old counteroffensyiv assaults for example

 

[BradCarter]

If anyone sees something about a medic from North Carolina named Davis getting turned into hamburger meat, I'd be interested in knowing. Dude joined up with the ukes because he was suicidal and I'm curious if he got his wish.

Tax: https://www.businessinsider.com/ukr...defensive-failed-nazi-germany-wwii-2024-2?amp

Dunno where business insider falls on the shill spectrum but there's some irony in the media pointing out that nazi larpers are using failed nazi tactics

 

[Fapcop]

Polish Ammo Found in Avdeevka.

That “Thank you Kowalczyk, thank you Smuchyk!” made me lol.

Anyways, I found something interesting from a Ukrop blogger/telegramist.

It’s rather long and in two parts. The third is a retranslation of the second one.





The things he’s describing here: No rotations (Russian troops just had their rotation), few of the original troops left, a breakdown of the unit structure… It sounds like at least SOME units in the Ukrainian army are legit starting to break down or be reduced to “on paper” brigades.

Not unexpected, especially given the chaotic total breakdown around Avdeyevka, but interesting.

 

[blablabla]

I am going to assume that Robotyne is somewhat of a distraction. That doesn't mean Russia isn't fighting really hard to take it and taking it does achieve Russia's goals.

The thing is they dont need a fucking distraction, they are hitting everywhere. they just entered Pobeda, then is a straight road to Marinka. Ukraine is getting gutted.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I have hear rumors-and they are simply rumors at this point-that some AFU commanders have taken off their uniforms, their ill gotten gains, families, mistresses and loaded up the SUV with household goods and GTFO. Like they saw the writing on the wall and decided fighting to the bitter end is not worth it.

If this happened in even a few in key areas have then it falling apart quickly makes sense. I'm sure some have; would you want to face the Russian army when they come at you?

 

[Corn Syrup Connoisseur]

This UK MoD 'Intelligence' update might be the most stupid one yet: