Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Tumbo II]

This is cope - even if the US/EU cease funding Ukraine, Estonia will continue singlehandedly funding the Ukrainian war machine and supplying them with F-16s on paper, also Russia is out of soldiers, munitions and money

I think you're in the wrong thread fren every big break they ukies have supposedly had has been a complete failure counter offensive being the greatest example.

 

[BradCarter]

I think you're in the wrong thread fren every big break they ukies have supposedly had has been a complete failure counter offensive being the greatest example.

Gotta dial back the autism if you can't read the sarcasm. Especially the "paper f-16s" joke

 

[make_it_so]

I think you're in the wrong thread fren every big break they ukies have supposedly had has been a complete failure counter offensive being the greatest example.

I think your sarcasm detector needs recalibration.

 

[Napoleon III]

this whole thing is going to end as soon as the US stops funding it without US support the Russians will eventually break through of course how long that takes will depend on how much milsurp the ukies still have once the gravy train stops. If Trump Wins next year it will end soon if he doesn't later but regardless of when it will end.

That raises a good question. How long could Ukraine survives if it received no military support i.e. no artillery shells/rockets? How long could Ukraine survive if it received no monetary support at all and couldn't pay pensions or its soldiers?

For the first question I think the answer is maybe 2 months maximum. The Ukrainian army would be in a state of collapse during those two months. Russia could basically conduct attacks with impunity. It depends on whether or no Ukraine gets drones in this scenario. I'll say they do but Russia would be able to bring EW systems forward with impunity so I'm not sure it matters.

For the 2nd question Ukraine would probably last a maximum of a couple of weeks. Armies need to get paid and not just because the soldiers need to be paid but because they need to buy all kinds of consumable supplies. If the Ukrainian bureaucracy was very efficient and very honest(lol) they could probably actually pay for their army without foreign aid. But Ukraine is way too corrupt for that.

Gotta dial back the autism if you can't read the sarcasm. Especially the "paper f-16s" joke

> Only Half Retarded

He did tell us in his description so you can't be too smug.

 

[BradCarter]

That raises a good question. How long could Ukraine survives if it received no military support i.e. no artillery shells/rockets? How long could Ukraine survive if it received no monetary support at all and couldn't pay pensions or its soldiers?

That depends on stockpiles. I don't believe they are producing near enough to make any difference. If I had to make a blind guess, I'm assuming they don't have much. Russia has been regularly posting videos of missile strikes on stockpiles they find and the Ukes have been spending manpower with abandon, I doubt theyd be more conservative with ammunition. Just gotta protect expensive western toys to prevent those bad "Ukraine has lost 10% of the tanks we gave them yesterday" headlines.

I don't think the ability to pay soldiers is much of a factor. Just say you'll pay them after. A concerning amount of their forces had to be clubbed over the head and thrown in a van to be recruited, so the paycheck isn't what's motivating them.

 

[Extremist Frank]

Anyway, in interesting developments today:

Russia disabled and captured a pair of Bradleys

https://t.me/bmpd_cast/18949
https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_4047570

Russia destroyed a pair of Leopard 2s

https://t.me/rusich_army/13177
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/62359

There's also a post claiming some 155m artillery shells produced by NATO countries are not usable with some of NATO's 155mm artillery and a separate post claiming the Su-57 has recently been used in Ukraine.

 

[Tumbo II]

Gotta dial back the autism if you can't read the sarcasm. Especially the "paper f-16s" joke

I unironiclly suffer from the tism so sarcasm is hard for me on Good day and unfortunately the internet makes it that much more difficult forgive me.

 

[High-Fructose Corn Syrup]

Bad few days on the other cope thread. Some of those users are really starting to lose it.

 

[geckogoy]

 

[Kane Lives]

Bad few days on the other cope thread. Some of those users are really starting to lose it.

Bro you can't say that and not provide receipts.

 

[Michael Wade]

Lol z man suspended elections.

https://www.dossier.today/p/under-the-fog-of-war-ukraine-cancels

Good sign.

I really Wonder if he's going to pull a Hitler or Mussolini when this is all over.

 

[Cuckoman]

Lol z man suspended elections.

https://www.dossier.today/p/under-the-fog-of-war-ukraine-cancels

Good sign.

I really Wonder if he's going to pull a Hitler or Mussolini when this is all over.

Lol. Nothing says "protecting democracy" like suspending elections.

Isn't this what they say big evil orange man would do? Suspend elections and become dictator for life?

A very Trumpian move. I like Z-man more every day.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Bro you can't say that and not provide receipts.

I don't know if it really gets any worse than declaring there's a special place in hell for Republicans who deny funding and equating them to Nazi collaborators.

I mean...that's max seethe.

If it gets worse that would be something.

 

[Napoleon III]

Credit to High-fructoseCornSyrup for paying attention to that thread. Sorry If I grabbed screen cap before you and you wanted to do it​

I don't know if it really gets any worse than declaring there's a special place in hell for Republicans who deny funding and equating them to Nazi collaborators.

I mean...that's max seethe.

If it gets worse that would be something.

I went there to see. Those guys are delusional man. They think Ukraine shot down 6 planes in 3 days. There are a couple people that act reasonable but a lot of the people there are utterly delusional. I thought they'd be a bit more reasonable tbqh.

Other Thread Coping and Seeding:

Spoiler: Coping and Sneeding

This guy has been coping a lot.




Someone is getting defensive lol. I best they don't like being associated with the people that shell children.


Someone makes a reasonable post about something that doesn't matter and is even from a Pro-Ukraine POV. Doesn't matter it violates the current narrative which doesn't really matter but we'll still believe it anyway. RATE THIS MAN AUTISTIC.

 

[01169]

Only semi-related but 17 year old Ukrainian basketball talent Volodymyr Yermakov was stabbed to death in a fight between teens in German city Oberhausen. Another Ukrainian 18 years old and two "Germans" 13 and 14 were injured as well.

Main suspect is a 15 year old. He's in custody. Another 14 year old was let go for now.

Apparently the Kiev Basketball Association via the Kiev Independent is trying to frame it as an attack due to their Ukrainianness but it really sounds like they were victims of the diversity they so heartily want for their own country.

I'll update as soon as there's more info.

e: Okay Spiegel is already saying it was 8 Arabs who attacked them lol.

Update on this. The second victim, the 18 years old basketball player, has died in the hospital. I can only imagine that with a ratio of 1:50 there's a hundred dead Arabs now. It's awfully quiet around this whole incident tho'.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Yeah I pretty much stopped looking after trying to downplay how bad trannies were to Josh because anti-tranny rhetoric was being used against NATO/Ukraine.

Right when trannies were funding efforts to take the site down.

*Edit* Come to think of it, some of them used to get really defensive over the t jokes.

 

[geckogoy]

Yeah I pretty much stopped looking after trying to downplay how bad trannies were to Josh because anti-tranny rhetoric was being used against NATO/Ukraine.

Lol is null in the other thread?

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Lol is null in the other thread?

Was a while ago. He popped in to make fun of the lazernig T14 video and some people got a tad mad.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

Or have the Russians learned the secrets of Dim Mak - the death touch.

Putin is Count Dante's true heir...

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Lol z man suspended elections.

EVERY FUCKIN TIME. The US gets their puppet 'democratically elected' and suppresses any real public opinion they don't like. Iran, Egypt, Guatemala, Syria, Panama, Libya, Vietnam... the list goes on, now Ukraine can join the brotherhood.

I don't have a source besides 'trust me' but I have seen things on Telly where people would rather accept Russian occupation than die in a cold field with no training. They like Ukraine, but its not worth getting their villages btfo and reduced to rubble when the Russians will eventually win in a costly loss for Ukes. They can see which way the winds are blowing.