Business How the Economy Changed: There's No Bargains Left Anywhere - A Charles Hugh Smith joint


What changed in the economy is now nobody can afford to get by on working-class wages because there's no longer any bargains.

The economy has changed in many ways, and it's difficult to track the glacial movements over decades. One change that few seem to recognize or discuss is the disappearance of bargains: cheap rent, cheap meals at hole-in-the-wall restaurants, cheap transport, cheap travel, cheap services--all gone.

Back in the day, even stupidly expensive cities like San Francisco had working-class districts with cheap rent and cheap eats. One reason the hippie movement arose in San Francisco was the availability of cheap places to rent in what many would dismiss as rundown slums or ghettos. There were plenty of working-class hole-in-the-wall restaurants and cafes that served cheap plates of spaghetti, turkey legs and other affordable fare.

The working-class districts in cities have long been gentrified, or more recently, abandoned to homeless encampments. Gentrification eliminates cheap rents, as the soaring valuations of real estate leads the new owners to charge high rents in order to pay their lofty mortgages.

Affordable apartments disappear, and so do affordable small commercial / retail spaces for hole-in-the-wall bookstores (remember when these were commonplace?), cafes, odd little niche retailers, and low-cost services (shoe repair, etc.)

The extermination of low-cost commercial space eliminated many services which are no longer available, a trend that feeds the "waste is growth" Landfill Economy: there's nobody left to repair anything or move second-hand goods, so everything that once could have been repaired or re-used is tossed in the landfill, replaced by a shoddy, crapified replacement product of the global economy.

One person's affordable housing is another person's slum or ghetto. Urban Renewal destroyed affordable housing and vibrant ethnic neighborhoods, in the name of "improvement" which ended up displacing those who could no longer afford soaring rents.

The end result is many people are spending half or 2/3 of after-tax earnings on rent. Personally, I was only able to work my way through college because there were still nooks and crannies of low-rent dives and rooming houses, and low-cost hole-in-the-wall restaurants and cafes, day-old baked goods outlets, etc.

Lowering the cost of credit for corporations, financiers and the wealthy created unprecedented competition for places to invest all this nearly free money, and real estate has long been a favored market for those seeking to increase income and appreciation by gentrifying low-cost properties.

The net result is nobody can afford to start a business because rents, insurance, fees, utilities and regulatory compliance are all unaffordable, And so downtowns and once vibrant retail streets are half-empty or abandoned. All the little cafes, services, second-hand stores are all gone because these are inherently low-margin businesses that can't afford rent in the thousands per month.

Something else changed, too: the proprietors who operated these small, affordable businesses are gone. The proprietors could charge affordable rates for their services because their own cost of living was low. Once the cost of living skyrocketed, they could no longer afford to get by on the meager earnings of their affordable enterprise. So they sold their building, or retired and moved out of the city to cheaper regions.

Who's left who wants to work the long hours needed to operate small enterprises, and rely on uncertain / low net income? Very few people are willing to take these risks, and few can afford to take these risks.

Financialization--and the resulting competition of those with unlimited access to low-cost credit for real estate to "develop"--eliminated all the bargains. Once rents soared, nobody could afford to offer bargains. The price of everything soared and those with cheap rents were forced out of business by rising rents and gentrification.

What changed in the economy is now nobody can afford to get by on working-class wages because there's no longer any bargains. Life used to be good for those with modest incomes because there were still bargains to be had. Not any more. Life is now a struggle because it's no longer affordable.

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Not everyone is suffering, of course. The corporations selling junk products and services are doing just fine:

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As are those who own 90% of the income-producing assets:

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buying a steak and a potato is like, twelve bucks to cook it at home, it's twice to three times that at a restaurant
a bag of frozen burger patties and buns is similarly a fraction of mcburger
Where are you getting a steak at for $6? I don't think I want that steak.

Then you have to cook and clean. That all cost money.

Like I said, eating out is just cheaper.
 
Its clown world. We've been living in a zombie economy since 2008. Living off of free money from the fed
This is the real issue. Our entire economic model has been artificially propped up by government subsidies and the military industrial complex. Every year I hear about how 'it's all going to come crashing down soon' since at least 2010 and nothing ever happens. All you fools thought we were going to be living in some Mad Max wasteland by 2022 and here we are because more tax funbucks get used to add more cards to the house.
 
Am I insane for thinking this? Where can I see the increase in corporate profits in terms of percentages and not raw dollars affected by inflation?
Someone convert this to silver for me so things make sense.
found this article (A) that has pretty enough graphs that seems to show what you're talking about. it seems like it makes sense that just because corporations are making more money doesn't mean that money is valuable with this insane inflation

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Where are you getting a steak at for $6? I don't think I want that steak.

Then you have to cook and clean. That all cost money.

Like I said, eating out is just cheaper.
Where are you getting a potato at for six bucks?
Steak runs seven to twelve bucks a pound for most cuts at the stores near me
 
This is the real issue. Our entire economic model has been artificially propped up by government subsidies and the military industrial complex. Every year I hear about how 'it's all going to come crashing down soon' since at least 2010 and nothing ever happens. All you fools thought we were going to be living in some Mad Max wasteland by 2022 and here we are because more tax funbucks get used to add more cards to the house.
They never let the economy go through its full cycle in 2008 because that would have meant punishing the banks and to their delight (and everyone else's horror) they discovered that they could reap all of the profits.
 
Where are you getting a steak at for $6? I don't think I want that steak.

Then you have to cook and clean. That all cost money.

Like I said, eating out is just cheaper.
Even a decent cut of steak is around $13 bucks:
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Find me a restaurant where you can get a 10oz ribeye for under $25.
Also, potatoes come in giant bags and work out to literal pennies per meal. Dish soap is a couple dollars for a big bottle. You've either never actually went grocery shopping or you're Canadian.
 
Even a decent cut of steak is around $13 bucks:
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Find me a restaurant where you can get a 10oz ribeye for under $25.
Also, potatoes come in giant bags and work out to literal pennies per meal. Dish soap is a couple dollars for a big bottle. You've either never actually went grocery shopping or you're Canadian.
Can you read? He said a steak and potato for $12. That steak you posted is $13. A steak and a potato is going to cost you more than $12. Then you have to cook it and clean up the mess. It takes about 20-30 minutes too cook a steak. A potato has to bake in an oven for an hour at 450 degrees. That's a lot of money spent on utilities. It cost money for the hot water to clean up the mess. Then you have the time it takes.

What are you going to put on your potato? Just salt and butter. Do you have any salt butter? Do you want sour cream? That all adds to the cost.

Like I said, it's just cheaper and easier to eat out.

But hey, keep proving you are a spiritual Boomer that's just as out of touch as the actual Boomers. LOL
 
yeah prices are up, but no shit there aren't bargains at Outback and other overpriced chain dogshit
cook at home you fucking mong
The idea isn't that people should be able to afford Outback every night instead of home cooking. The idea is that a person making a decent but modest salary should be able to take Timmy out for a nice dinner at a middling chain restaurant when he turns 15 without having to save up or scrimp the rest of the month. We're not talking about a prix fixe menu, we're talking about a place that serves blooming onions and ranch dip. It should be something an average hard-working American father can treat the wife and kids to a couple times a year without running up credit card debt.

Same thing with McDonald's. No, you aren't meant to eat it every night. But it should be a viable possibility when Johnny has baseball practice and the wife has the flu. Slap down $10 and bring home a bag full of something warm and filling to tide everyone over. Now that costs $40.
 
Can you read? He said a steak and potato for $12. That steak you posted is $13. A steak and a potato is going to cost you more than $12. Then you have to cook it and clean up the mess. It takes about 20-30 minutes too cook a steak. A potato has to bake in an oven for an hour at 450 degrees. That's a lot of money spent on utilities. It cost money for the hot water to clean up the mess. Then you have the time it takes.

What are you going to put on your potato? Just salt and butter. Do you have any salt butter? Do you want sour cream? That all adds to the cost.

Like I said, it's just cheaper and easier to eat out.

But hey, keep proving you are a spiritual Boomer that's just as out of touch as the actual Boomers. LOL
I said I picked a good cut, if you want to go cheap:
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Also a potato that your dumb-ass seems to think costs so much:
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They are actually cheaper if you buy them in a bag.

And you buy and save spices and use them multiple times. Just admit you're too lazy to cook and clean so you'd rather spend $30 getting kiked to be 'serviced' than $6 and 30 minutes of your time. Stop being a nigger with your money and you'd have more.

You don't think the utility costs of the restaurant are passed on to you? The cost of their soap, their time?
 
cook and clean
I will be fair, there was a weird stretch where I was doing independent contract stuff from home and had basically unlimited hours of work available, so the numbers _did_ work out in that case to get take out and work the hour while eating, but otherwise my cooking/cleaning time hasn't had the option of swapping it for money work
 
Its not like we need that shit to survive. If they could, they would charge people for breathing air. Like the CG Lorax.
Agreed. Banks and financial institutions are ridiculously greedy.
I had better quality (in terms of fabric, cut, and construction) clothes from the Gap clearance rack 20 years ago than I do now spending $100-500 on items from Nordstrom.

I bought a dress from the Gap last year (give me rainbows) and it looks like an intermediate sewing project by a tenth grader.

ETA: you can’t find lined trousers for women anywhere at the regular mall retailers. I wore a pair of silk-lined wool trousers from the Limited around the year 2000 that I definitely did not spend more than $60 on.
Yep, fast fashion has destroyed quality clothing unless it's pretty damn expensive or niche.

Of you want quality clothes you're looking at some pretty basic styles or stuff that's 3-5x the price of everything else.
I have some Champion sweatpants from the late 2000's. I recently bought some and the new ones are total shit. They are no better than the cheap ones you can get from Hanes or Fruit of the Loom for way less. All the clothing made in the last 5 years or so has seen a drastic drop in quality. I bought some Hanes shirts, and the collar wasn't sewn on right. It was crooked.
Yep. There are a few holdouts but man they're rare. Good sweatpants or similar can be had from Fabletics for.... $75 a pair buuuttt you get at least one item or 1 outfit for free from them a month then you're paying their membership fee which is $60 a month or so.

Most cheap clothing is utter trash these days.
 
I said I picked a good cut, if you want to go cheap:
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Also a potato that your dumb-ass seems to think costs so much:
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They are actually cheaper if you buy them in a bag.

And you buy and save spices and use them multiple times. Just admit you're too lazy to cook and clean so you'd rather spend $30 getting kiked to be 'serviced' than $6 and 30 minutes of your time. Stop being a nigger with your money and you'd have more.

You don't think the utility costs of the restaurant are passed on to you? The cost of their soap, their time?
I just explained the cost of the potato fucktard.

I will just go out and eat. I can get meal for under $15 at most places. I don't have to cook and clean.

Have fun with your SPAM and Ramen Boomer. LOLOLOLOLOL
Agreed. Banks and financial institutions are ridiculously greedy.

Yep, fast fashion has destroyed quality clothing unless it's pretty damn expensive or niche.

Of you want quality clothes you're looking at some pretty basic styles or stuff that's 3-5x the price of everything else.

Yep. There are a few holdouts but man they're rare. Good sweatpants or similar can be had from Fabletics for.... $75 a pair buuuttt you get at least one item or 1 outfit for free from them a month then you're paying their membership fee which is $60 a month or so.

Most cheap clothing is utter trash these days.
I'm not paying $70 for a pair of sweatpants. I don't have Boomer money.
 
Home vs cooked is going to depend on what you eat and if you’re single. It’s not cheaper to eat out every night if you have a family - 7x15 dollars is 105 a week, and if that’s literally all you consume for food (no tea or coffee or snacks or breakfast/lunch at home) that’s probably similar to what you’d spend at the grocery store. Spend another fifty or so on breakfast/lunch/drinks and snacks and it’s up to 150 a week and that’s definitely more expensive, but if you can find cheap food and live off one meal a day of it then it may work,
But… Cook for six people and feed them breakfast and lunch every day and it’s always cheaper to cook at home.
Agree on the clothes. Everything is crap. Crap fabrics like viscose, polyester. Crap cuts, and terrible sewing. The latter really surprised me because industrially produced clothing is made on a line where each garment is passed between several people each of whom does ONE thing, like add some cover stitching, on a machine that’s set up perfectly for the task. It implies that even that level of setup is too hard for people now. The sizing errors are often because they cut massive stacks of cloth at the pattern cutting stage. If you put the pattern on top and your blade or laser or whatever is at even a slight angle there will be a significant difference in size between top and bottom of that stack.

Where ever we have out new sweatshops they’re not very good
 
What's gonna happen eventually is people doing exactly what they do in 3rd-world shitholes. More street vendors. More 'street' biz. Expect to see Jamal learning how to raise chickens in his own apartment because there's a demand for that shit. And no, they won't play nice with taxes either.
I think they cut that off or tried to get ahead of it a couple years back with a law where if you make more than 600 in income you 'have to declare' and banks are monitoring or something. And theyre probably gonna go after cash too. That thing yorue talking about with broke people/immigrants doing shit for cash only was a big problem even back in like 2013 ish (the start of the 'side hustle' and 'boss babe' shit sorta) although it wouldnt be something rural people saw, most of the cash economy can only exist in 'walkable communities'. Most shit exurban/rural is globohomo, big box, 'respectable' chain shit and if its not its kind of overpriced for being one of the only 'other' things around.
 
I had better quality (in terms of fabric, cut, and construction) clothes from the Gap clearance rack 20 years ago than I do now spending $100-500 on items from Nordstrom.

I bought a dress from the Gap last year (give me rainbows) and it looks like an intermediate sewing project by a tenth grader.

ETA: you can’t find lined trousers for women anywhere at the regular mall retailers. I wore a pair of silk-lined wool trousers from the Limited around the year 2000 that I definitely did not spend more than $60 on.
Last decade there was a bunch of articles and studies that were praising the concept of “good enough.” But in order to squeeze more money from people, we are now paying good prices for good enough quality. Now it’s damn near impossible to find things that are actually good because good enough is more profitable. Buying something three times at $30 each is more profitable than something that’s actually good at $50. It’s basically just considered the norm now that buying something that lasts or even as good as what things were 20 years ago is now something we have to give up or pretend never happened in the first place. But we’re supposed to feel sorry for the heccin’ c-suites for having no choice but to charge more for less. Expecting quality goods is now entitlement and socialism.
 
Ok Boomer.

Enjoy your SPAM and Ramen.

While I make very good money, a simple trip to meijers and only buying half a dozen things adds up fast. My last trip was $65. For some damn cat food, buttermilk, yogurt, vegetables, a rotisserie chicken, condiments, and a pack of paper towels.
 
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