4chan literally dying

4chan is basically the foundation of the internet to me. Heck, they still stumble into doing hilarious random shit like how Pepe has gotten political. Don't get me wrong, the site isn't great, but it does hold historical significance to the internet (or at least to me). It will suck if it closes.
 
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The death knell for 4chan came in 2014 with m00t's attempt to clean up the site for sale. Fact is, this was the year the writing on the wall became visible to all, from the response to the infamous Tumblr raid to allegations of m00t working with Gawker to pics of him palling around with bigwigs in Social Justice.

But thing is, even without those, between m00t appointing all new moderators that did nothing but piss the userbase off, subdividing boards against the userbase's wishes, flat out trying to delete topics of discussion (90% of a board's posts disappearing in a single hour), and more, 4chan was inevitably going to follow the same fate as MySpace, Digg, and similar failed websites. Even a relatively powerful or influential site can wind up fucked to this degree; Twitter's ongoing death spiral has lasted for some time. People said Gawker would never die, either.

4chan's operators successfully made the service unpopular enough that for the first time, competing chans started to gain an actual following. That is officially the beginning of the end of any website worth a damn. While a move of site location can fuck up a a userbase, if it has a legit demand, it will find its home eventually.

A few years ago, a shred of 4chan as large as the one that fucked off to 8chan would have been unthinkable. The only thing bad coming out of 4chan dying at this point is the fact that for a while, /pol/ and /b/ will escape containment, and will fag everything up for a few weeks. They'll find a new location to sperg, though, and the chans will keep on thrumming along, because chan culture is ultimately its userbase, not the site itself.
 
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Jaimas said:
the response to the infamous Tumblr raid
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How did they raid 4chan, and what was the response? I didn't really keep up with the raid, although I was under the impression that nothing really happened. I knew about the plans for it before it happened though.

Also I remember that at one point that the mere mention of GamerGate in /vg/ was forbidden.
 
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The death knell for 4chan came in 2014 with m00t's attempt to clean up the site for sale. Fact is, this was the year the writing on the wall became visible to all, from the response to the infamous Tumblr raid to allegations of m00t working with Gawker to pics of him palling around with bigwigs in Social Justice.

But thing is, even without those, between m00t appointing all new moderators that did nothing but piss the userbase off, subdividing boards against the userbase's wishes, flat out trying to delete topics of discussion (90% of a board's posts disappearing in a single hour), and more, 4chan was inevitably going to follow the same fate as MySpace, Digg, and similar failed websites. Even a relatively powerful or influential site can wind up fucked to this degree; Twitter's ongoing death spiral has lasted for some time. People said Gawker would never die, either.

4chan's operators successfully made the service unpopular enough that for the first time, competing chans started to gain an actual following. That is officially the beginning of the end of any website worth a damn. While a move of site location can fuck up a a userbase, if it has a legit demand, it will find its home eventually.

A few years ago, a shred of 4chan as large as the one that fucked off to 8chan would have been unthinkable. The only thing bad coming out of 4chan dying at this point is the fact that for a while, /pol/ and /b/ will escape containment, and will fag everything up for a few weeks. They'll find a new location to sperg, though, and the chans will keep on thrumming along, because chan culture is ultimately its userbase, not the site itself.
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I was an avid (shit)poster on several 4chan boards myself for a long time. Mostly I was just hanging out around the place and wait for something funny or interesting to happen while going through a daily routine of sperging over certain things... but it was fun times. The moment GG happened was when I just got disenfranchised with the whole site and how it was run. I wonder how many of the old rumors were true, but when /v/ deletes huge swathes of /v/-related material it does get kinda blatant.

That being said, 4chan is a huge part of internet culture as we know it and a page that every once in a while manages to really set off an avalanche of salt. Unfortunately, it's also a site that's next to impossible to monetize, I fear.
If 4chan goes the way of the Dinosaur, it will be a sad day for the internet, as I genuinely believe that places like 4chan are necessary to a certain degree. It's a goddamn shithole and a dump for toxic bullshit, but it's also a place that stands out for that particular reason. For a long time, it was just doing its own thing and in a time where everything gets tumblrized in its views, 4chan is a useful counterweight. At least in theory.
 
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How did they raid 4chan, and what was the response? I didn't really keep up with the raid, although I was under the impression that nothing really happened. I knew about the plans for it before it happened though.
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The "raid" itself was orchestrated by /pol/ and a few other boards that were sick of Tumblr's shit. They basically false-flagged against 4chan for weeks hoping to provoke Tumblr into a war they knew it couldn't win, which, Tumblr being Tumblr, it jumped at. Tumblr fought 4chan, immediately got triggered, and suddenly realized that they were fighting a foe that they couldn't shame and couldn't stop. It's very analogous to what happened when Vade encountered the Kiwi Farms, only on a way bigger scale. Unfortunately for Tumblr, this was only the start. 4chan provocateurs chased the Tumblrettes to their safe spaces, found their preferred tags on Tumblr, started posting old favorites like Muddy Dicks (that's not mud...) and Goatse. Tumblrettes deleted everything en masse and the "war" ended with a fucking slaughter.

Unfortunately, whilst this is widely regarded as fucking hilarious, 4chan's modship at the time, increasingly pro-SocJus, was less than amused. This included prospective buyers interested in acquiring the site from m00t at the time, or so common chant goes. In response to the raid, 4chan tried to lock down /pol/ which had the predictable reaction of /pol/ immediately slipping containment and raising alarms - because whilst fucking everyone hates /pol/ - they're arguably the second-most despised board after /r9k/ - /pol/ occasionally lets nuggets of truth slip out when they're not claiming Jews are aiming a massive orbital doom-satellite at the USA in a diabolical plan to keep the McRib seasonal or whatever, and this proved to be the case when 4chan mods overreached in their attempt to slap /pol/'s shit.
 
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The "raid" itself was orchestrated by /pol/ and a few other boards that were sick of Tumblr's shit. They basically false-flagged against 4chan for weeks hoping to provoke Tumblr into a war they knew it couldn't win, which, Tumblr being Tumblr, it jumped at. Tumblr fought 4chan, immediately got triggered, and suddenly realized that they were fighting a foe that they couldn't shame and couldn't stop. It's very analogous to what happened when Vade encountered the Kiwi Farms, only on a way bigger scale. Unfortunately for Tumblr, this was only the start. 4chan provocateurs chased the Tumblrettes to their safe spaces, found their preferred tags on Tumblr, started posting old favorites like Muddy Dicks (that's not mud...) and Goatse. Tumblrettes deleted everything en masse and the "war" ended with a fucking slaughter.

Unfortunately, whilst this is widely regarded as fucking hilarious, 4chan's modship at the time, increasingly pro-SocJus, was less than amused. This included prospective buyers interested in acquiring the site from m00t at the time, or so common chant goes. In response to the raid, 4chan tried to lock down /pol/ which had the predictable reaction of /pol/ immediately slipping containment and raising alarms - because whilst fucking everyone hates /pol/ - they're arguably the second-most despised board after /r9k/ - /pol/ occasionally lets nuggets of truth slip out when they're not claiming Jews are aiming a massive orbital doom-satellite at the USA in a diabolical plan to keep the McRib seasonal or whatever, and this proved to be the case when 4chan mods overreached in their attempt to slap /pol/'s shit.
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Wasn't that the 4th of July raid? Where Tumblrettes came en masse to 4chan to shitpost fake rape stories and to somehow confront 4chan with the terrible truths of oppression and shit, trying to shit up the place with 4chan trolls flooding all top hashtags on tumblr with porn, gore and so on for days?

Edit: artist's impression.
 
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Jaimas said:
The "raid" itself was orchestrated by /pol/ and a few other boards that were sick of Tumblr's shit. They basically false-flagged against 4chan for weeks hoping to provoke Tumblr into a war they knew it couldn't win, which, Tumblr being Tumblr, it jumped at. Tumblr fought 4chan, immediately got triggered, and suddenly realized that they were fighting a foe that they couldn't shame and couldn't stop. It's very analogous to what happened when Vade encountered the Kiwi Farms, only on a way bigger scale. Unfortunately for Tumblr, this was only the start. 4chan provocateurs chased the Tumblrettes to their safe spaces, found their preferred tags on Tumblr, started posting old favorites like Muddy Dicks (that's not mud...) and Goatse. Tumblrettes deleted everything en masse and the "war" ended with a fucking slaughter.

Unfortunately, whilst this is widely regarded as fucking hilarious, 4chan's modship at the time, increasingly pro-SocJus, was less than amused. This included prospective buyers interested in acquiring the site from m00t at the time, or so common chant goes. In response to the raid, 4chan tried to lock down /pol/ which had the predictable reaction of /pol/ immediately slipping containment and raising alarms - because whilst fucking everyone hates /pol/ - they're arguably the second-most despised board after /r9k/ - /pol/ occasionally lets nuggets of truth slip out when they're not claiming Jews are aiming a massive orbital doom-satellite at the USA in a diabolical plan to keep the McRib seasonal or whatever, and this proved to be the case when 4chan mods overreached in their attempt to slap /pol/'s shit.
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Did /baph/ plan their St. Valentine's Day massacre in response to this? I don't know if they actually did it, but they were planning months in advance to set up sleeper cells that would unleash their gory wrath upon Tumblr for Valentine's.
 
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Hellfire said:
Did /baph/ plan their St. Valentine's Day massacre in response to this? I don't know if they actually did it, but they were planning months in advance to set up sleeper cells that would unleash their gory wrath upon Tumblr for Valentine's.
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Purportedly, yes, but I've never been big on following /baph/, so this is not my area of expertise.
 
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Ruin said:
How? They're all NEETS.
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AutismBux

Super Collie said:
Cool. I volunteer as the Furry Friday mod. Is that even still a thing on /b/?
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I'm not 100% what "Furry Friday" is/was, but I doubt its a thing since /b/ always has at least one furry thread operating 24/7, sometimes(usually) 2-4. They don't even get shitposted to death that much. I think MLP took a lot of heat off the furries on 4chan.

I know a lot of Kiwifarm users like to bitch about Lowtax and how something awful is dying, but by god, it's going to outlast it's own, more popular, mutant stepchild.

It's pretty sad though, 4chan is a critical piece of internet history in it's own warped sense.
 
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I'm not 100% what "Furry Friday" is/was, but I doubt its a thing since /b/ always has at least one furry thread operating 24/7, sometimes(usually) 2-4. They don't even get shitposted to death that much. I think MLP took a lot of heat off the furries on 4chan.

I know a lot of Kiwifarm users like to bitch about Lowtax and how something awful is dying, but by god, it's going to outlast it's own, more popular, mutant stepchild.

It's pretty sad though, 4chan is a critical piece of internet history in it's own warped sense.
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That which is Autistic may never die.

Give it time. It will be re-obtained by the spergs some day.
 
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John Titor said:
Things will be all right.
4chan will reach drinking age and will we all remember to laugh in seven years as we trade in our GBP for tendies.
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4chan will pull through :semperfidelis: There'll be some M00t/Hiroyuki-grade nerd who will salvage it.
At least I hope it does, because I can't bear the thought of not having a decent and lively place to discuss things frankly without having to deal with the cliquefication, having your username tied to your posts and the inevitable self-censorship and evaluation of posts by poster rather than the post content that comes along with having usernames.
 
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