Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

ShinyStar said:
The lawyers don't care about the outcome of the case. Niki does. If Pat blows it all because he couldn't stop himself from responding to trolls on the internet, then everything she put up with for the past two years was in vain, and I imagine she will be a very angry woman.
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"No child, my second, better wife isn't kicking me out of the hovel and taking half my stuff. No, child, I'm not crying myself to sleep in the alley behind Hooligans. Wait for the knock, child."
 
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mindlessobserver said:
The way it works is the Police can conduct a search if they have a reasonable suspicion that a crime is going on. Which is a super low bar. The fake 911 call alone is enough to meet it. Except this mongoloid of a beat cop decided to just publicly state (probably in view of Doorbell Cameras) that "He is Aware" the call is bullshit, but he's going to conduct a search anyway. The correct answer would be "Sir, we've had a report that X is happening on this property. We are just going inside to make sure X is not happening".

This is not good for the State. No sir, not good.
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I have a question for any legal minded Kiwis. Let's say the above situation is as how Fat Rick described it. Let's say a cop's at my front door and he's threatening to kick it down and arrest me if I don't open it for him. Is that by itself a 4A violation or would he actually have to kick in my door and enter my residence?
 
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Fat is lying when he’s been SWAT’d 40 times. ONA and people here looked into it. They’re wellness checks, notes, or whatever. I think Fatrick is most likely on a watchlist due to threatening his ex-wife and being a useless antagonistic drunk. I’m gonna guess he got pissy the cops didn’t instantly gang rape Dan Mullen to death and doesn’t respond to their phone calls and then gets pissed when they bang on his door.

I think Space Edge did detective work on Pizza’s during the SWATing and pizza crisis. The places basically said that neither of them told them about the trolling. I think Fat and Sticki never took proactive steps to make it harder to harass themselves.

The funniest outcome would be if the cops did call Fatrick everytime prior to visits and he either blocked them or ignored them and got angry when they showed up. Just in court having cops say “We did call you” and him denying it like Nadolski.
 
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GamerGateSurvivor said:
I have a question for any legal minded Kiwis. Let's say the above situation is as how Fat Rick described it. Let's say a cop's at my front door and he's threatening to kick it down and arrest me if I don't open it for him. Is that by itself a 4A violation or would he actually have to kick in my door and enter my residence?
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Assuming no warrant, it depends on what is known as "probable cause." Simply put, if an officer has a reason to believe something is wrong, they're authorized to do what they must stop it. This is why you never open your front door for the police, because they can say, "Hey, I smell something weird," and get their probable cause that way. This is how a lot of people who would've otherwise gotten away with their crimes are caught: by acting funny or committing misdemeanors.

In Fat Rick's case, I don't think it's a 4th Amendment case. When a SWAT team is kicking your door in, they believe a criminal activity is going on (probable cause) and are moving to stop it. This is normally a good thing, since in an emergency (like a hostage situation) there won't be time to get a judge to give you a warrant. This is what SWATers abuse to try and harm or kill their victims.

So, if Torswats calls the cops and says, "Hey, I'm Fat Rick, I'm about to feed some nigger babies to a grinder, what're you gonna do about it?" that gives the cops probable cause to break down the pig pen's front door.
 
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drfuzzyballs said:
They do allow cameras in Milwaukee courtrooms if this goes to trial I could make the trip and report on the hearings. Or at least get the court transcripts.
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It is a federal case so this is in the old building kitty corner from the old lodge building with the water soaked log foundation that is now the Northwestern Mutual Life campus. It is 4-6 blocks from the lakefront.

Those courtrooms have audio and you should be able to buy an audio copy in PACER assuming *koff* the audio doesn't fail 'cuz the lawyer was committing perjury or they move the proceeding to a non recording room. The audio is for bankruptcy but might not exist for a civil. The criminal cases didn't have audio last time such held my attention.

Odds are there will be more than 1 person who's commented on Patrick at the proceedings.


As for future filings in the fed - Rule 12 and then the qualified immunity.

After the fed case is done any wellness check calls will be an excuse to crawl up his ass and if the MPD wants him gone any calls for the DNS (dep. of neighborhood services) to investigate they will write up everything.

DNS calls is a reason the other 1/2 isn't rented. The renter can call in DNS, DNS can issue orders and the renter pays DNS 'till the repairs are done. If they don't get done DNS mails you a check for the rent they held.
 
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Apteryx Owenii said:
If the police can break your door down and search your house based on nothing but an anonymous call, particularly after multiple known fake calls of the same type, it's no longer a pat problem- it's a Constitutional concern.
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the police didn't ever break pat's door down. by his own court document they didn't even demand entry most times. MPD was adapting to the very unusual shitstorm constantly being stirred up by a single proudly defiant retard.

let's say rewind time to less militarized police, pre-9/11 laws and more community based law enforcement. do you think that pat and his behavior would not still get his house searched? you really think 4th amendment erosion is what get a guy who brags about being ODD and fighting fascism into beef with police?
Useful_Mistake said:
If we take it that Pat's not lying then he said that he "was well aware of the situation" which can mean many things. Pat uses that fractured quote (notably the last part is not in quotes) to imply that the officer knew that the call was bullshit, as opposed to the officer knowing that there are many reports/calls issued on Pat.
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if pat chimped out and created the appearance of an emergency to a belligerent asshole cop, well, that sucks but don't chimp out.

if you live anywhere poor and shitty there's always one house the cops are ALWAYS at and it isn't because oppression or corruption. it's because the people who live there start stupid bullshit endlessly forcing squad cars to appear.
 
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Apteryx Owenii said:
torswats was not the first and won't be the last person to weaponize calling the police. This is broader than pat. If the police can search your house sans warrant based on nothing but an anonymous call, particularly after multiple known fake calls of the same type, it's no longer a pat problem- it's a Constitutional concern.
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Why are you still believing shit Pat Tomlinson claims based on absolutely nothing? Are you retarded or something? Everything Pat says is a fucking LIE.
 
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Smithfield Ham said:
Good ol' Pat. Reliable as the sunshine. Despite have a 0% success rate in court and losing tens of thousands of dollars, he plows right on through.
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AnOminous said:
Why are you still believing shit Pat Tomlinson claims based on absolutely nothing? Are you retarded or something? Everything Pat says is a fucking LIE.
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yeah I mean no hate intended but I am surprised by how many people are quick to assume this will be a quick settlement or pat has a case. He lied a shitload on that doc I assumed it was pro-se until I saw the lawyers signatures.

The MPD knows fatty real well and the moment a percent of the stuff he's said and done shows up in discovery..... I already expect this to be a lolsuit.
 
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Seanut Arbuckle said:
yeah I mean no hate intended but I am surprised by how many people are quick to assume this will be a quick settlement or pat has a case. He lied a shitload on that doc I assumed it was pro-se until I saw the lawyers signatures.
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I don't know why anyone is assuming anything Fatty claimed is true when he openly denies shit even in the face of obvious proof. "No stalker child I didn't threaten my wife." [response to police document showing he threatened his wife]. "No I am not fat!" [response to picture of him being obviously fat] What the fuck is wrong with these people? Do they have brain damage?
 
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Markorian said:
I still think it was for all intents and purposes pro-se. He wrote it, hired a couple lawyers to file it and do their best to clean it up and make it somewhat coherent, and this was the best they could do.
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that's my read on it. Can't imagine the thinking behind it since pat hasn't been shy about LARPing as Matlock before.... I suppose its to avoid getting made fun of like his last lolfiling and to avoid the court dismissing his filing as the ramblings of a madman?

but man those lawyers are probably gonna be makin BANK off of mama lynne. Easiest job in the world get paid to help some fat blubbering retard play pretend lawyer.
 
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AnOminous said:
I don't know why anyone is assuming anything Fatty claimed is true when he openly denies shit even in the face of obvious proof. "No stalker child I didn't threaten my wife." [response to police document showing he threatened his wife]. "No I am not fat!" [response to picture of him being obviously fat] What the fuck is wrong with these people? Do they have brain damage?
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Couldn't agree more. Its no coincidence that they drop this lolsuit right after the media blew up that piece on torswats getting extradited to florida. Being intellectually honest is not their intent; they are hoping for clickbait/viral moral outrage (which i think he will fail miserably at, but we will nonetheless see fatrick-promoted articles in the next few days trying to push that narrative).

Either way, this is going to be hilarious.
 
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