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[DeadwastePrime]

Dude, Hobie’s a literal anarchist from a totalitarian universe. Of course he does whatever the fuck he wants.

based hobie

Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon being scrubbed off Archive.org is making me consider purchasing the Lost Episodes disc.

Fortunately, I've watched five, (saw part of Fire Dogs 2). It's shit, but I'm starved for Ren and Stimpy anything (and the fact that its almost beautiful animation is wasted on that bullshit is worth seeing).

dont. its fucking horrible. im begging you

 

[TVB]

Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon being scrubbed off Archive.org is making me consider purchasing the Lost Episodes disc.

Fortunately, I've watched five, (saw part of Fire Dogs 2). It's shit, but I'm starved for Ren and Stimpy anything (and the fact that its almost beautiful animation is wasted on that bullshit is worth seeing).

Is it wrong for me to say that Fire Dogs 2 was the only decent episode in APC? Everything else about it is bad with nice animation, and John K. is a shitty person with nice drawings.

 

[Tootsie Bear]

Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon being scrubbed off Archive.org is making me consider purchasing the Lost Episodes disc.

Fortunately, I've watched five, (saw part of Fire Dogs 2). It's shit, but I'm starved for Ren and Stimpy anything (and the fact that its almost beautiful animation is wasted on that bullshit is worth seeing).

I recently tried watching the Ren & Stimpy adult series and it was bad. The original show on Nick was fun. Still a classic in my opinion. But the adult that aired Spike TV was "why did you do this, you'd have a better deal playing russian roulette."

 

[TVB]

I recently tried watching the Ren & Stimpy adult series and it was bad. The original show on Nick was fun. Still a classic in my opinion. But the adult that aired Spike TV was "why did you do this, you'd have a better deal playing russian roulette."

The original Nick series has a special place in my heart. I even thought the Games-era episodes, for how flawed it really was and that it differentiate from the first two John K. seasons, were still very fun. In the end, I'd say Ren & Stimpy was pretty much John's one hit wonder, and I'll always consider him to be an absolute scumbag

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

Edit: The more I think about this plot, the worse it gets. Literally every Spider has to be -IQ to make anything make sense. They all went along with Miguel for his stupid reason?

Exactly!

This guy ruined his own life and caused the death of an entire world and it was all his own doing.

And as I’ve mentioned before he replaced a deceased version of himself and took over his life. And I keep mentioning it, because it’s immoral, unethical and creepy.

Not to mention, his theory isn’t really sound because he based it off of his traumatic experience.

And there could be plenty of other reasons for why that universe died, like he caused an Incursion due to his presence.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

Ugh, Capeshit

 

[Commander X]

The Coyote Vs. Acme film is being deleted and while on principle I feel that the idea a company can shelve an entire completed movie for a tax write off is pretty lousy, but my faint interest in seeing what the film was all about died off as soon as I saw that it looked like another Tom & Jerry 2020-type of CG slop ordeal, another re-re-re-re-re-re-rehash of Roger Rabbit, but where Roger Rabbit was one of several major events that lead up to the "90s Renaissance" in animation, have any of the live-action/cartoon hybrid films really done anything for animation?

Did people including studios start "respecting animation" and realizing "Animation Is Cinema" because of Space Jam 2, or Rocky & Bullwinkle, or that terrible film where Russell Brand voiced the son of the Easter Bunny, and so on. These movies reduce animation to a gimmick and are mostly written and created and shepherded by people who don't care about animation, asides from trying to sell marketable IPs. Ralph Bakshi tried to make a live-action/cartoon hybrid for adults with Cool World, that explored a creator vs. creation narrative and he was totally ratfucked by Paramount. Bakshi approached the idea of a live action-animation hybrid from the view of an animator and filmmaker, which what most of these people who make movies like the Tom & Jerry movie and so on don't. in their lizard brains, Roger Rabbit was a huge hit (36 years ago, but still) and they just want to recreate that success.

I also can't get upset about Coyote vs. Acme because the premise is based in that 1990s proto-TVTropes referential meta-humor which non-cartoonists who wrote cartoons were using after Roger Rabbit. I suppose you might have been psyched for this film if you were looking forward to jokes about how cartoon "tropes" are silly and unrealistic.

 

[starborn427614]

I also can't get upset about Coyote vs. Acme because the premise is based in that 1990s proto-TVTropes referential meta-humor which non-cartoonists who wrote cartoons were using after Roger Rabbit. I suppose you might have been psyched for this film if you were looking forward to jokes about how cartoon "tropes" are silly and unrealistic.

It's more the principle than the quality of the content, really. Especially with a brand as historic as Looney Tunes. It could be complete shit, but that's for audiences to decide, not for CEO's who only see these projects as tax write-offs.

 

[Commander X]

It's more the principle than the quality of the content, really. Especially with a brand as historic as Looney Tunes. It could be complete shit, but that's for audiences to decide, not for CEO's who only see these projects as tax write-offs.

That's why I am torn, even if it was shit, a lot of people's work is getting flushed down the drain. At least they were paid.

 

[BetterFuckChuck]

Exactly!

This guy ruined his own life and caused the death of an entire world and it was all his own doing.

And as I’ve mentioned before he replaced a deceased version of himself and took over his life. And I keep mentioning it, because it’s immoral, unethical and creepy.

Not to mention, his theory isn’t really sound because he based it off of his traumatic experience.

And there could be plenty of other reasons for why that universe died, like he caused an Incursion due to his presence.

meta plots and trauma as character motivation need to curl up and die

 

[Doctor of Autism]

It's more the principle than the quality of the content, really. Especially with a brand as historic as Looney Tunes. It could be complete shit, but that's for audiences to decide, not for CEO's who only see these projects as tax write-offs.

Not to mention, Zaslav didn't even watch the film. He just shelved it for some tax write-offs, and given he thought the Suicide Squad game and Flash movie were billion dollar ideas, I think his judgement on what is quality entertainment is probably shit.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

Not to mention, Zaslav didn't even watch the film. He just shelved it for some tax write-offs, and given he thought the Suicide Squad game and Flash movie were billion dollar ideas, I think his judgement on what is quality entertainment is probably shit.

its suffice to say he's one of the reasons for why the discovery channel stuff went downhill over the years so

 

[Sergeant Major Buzzkill]

dont. its fucking horrible. im begging you

It’s not that bad to me.

The only major gripe I have with it is how weird John K’s Ren sounds - he is my favorite character, so I am… particular with him - and how overlong the episodes can be (Alturists had no business being that long).

Is it wrong for me to say that Fire Dogs 2 was the only decent episode in APC? Everything else about it is bad with nice animation, and John K. is a shitty person with nice drawings.

I’m curious to hear your thoughts on Ren Seeks Help. I thought it was easily its strongest episode (if you take away the bullshit).

I recently tried watching the Ren & Stimpy adult series and it was bad. The original show on Nick was fun. Still a classic in my opinion. But the adult that aired Spike TV was "why did you do this, you'd have a better deal playing russian roulette."

One of the major problems with the spin-off is that like with Ripping Friends there wasn’t a clear audience for it. Aside from John K sycophants, who would sit and watch this? The reason why Ren and Stimpy was a hit during the Spumco era because it was able to appeal to anybody, plus it stood out among the other NickToons for being innovative during a time where creator driven cartoons were budding out and put Nickelodeon on the map.

However, I think, in a just timeline, a reboot for Ren and Stimpy in an adult format would work.

The original Nick series has a special place in my heart. I even thought the Games-era episodes, for how flawed it really was and that it differentiate from the first two John K. seasons, were still very fun. In the end, I'd say Ren & Stimpy was pretty much John's one hit wonder, and I'll always consider him to be an absolute scumbag

I commend the Games crew for giving their all after John’s fuckups, despite my misgivings about the episodes quality (I don’t like any of the episodes of Games, but I’ll save that sperging for another day).

But yeah Kricfalusi is too much of a retard to understand how his own show worked.

 

[anustart76]

Not to mention, Zaslav didn't even watch the film. He just shelved it for some tax write-offs, and given he thought the Suicide Squad game and Flash movie were billion dollar ideas, I think his judgement on what is quality entertainment is probably shit.

its suffice to say he's one of the reasons for why the discovery channel stuff went downhill over the years so

My understanding is that Zaslav's background is trash reality TV. He isn't some "savior" for WB as some people are saying. Maybe for their bottom line, but he isn't going to significantly up the quality of what they put out. In all likelihood he's going to cut everything that isn't cheap to make with big returns, meaning we're likely to heavily see things like the crime against entertainment that is reality TV and live service games.

 

[Trilby]

My understanding is that Zaslav's background is trash reality TV. He isn't some "savior" for WB as some people are saying. Maybe for their bottom line, but he isn't going to significantly up the quality of what they put out. In all likelihood he's going to cut everything that isn't cheap to make with big returns, meaning we're likely to heavily see things like the crime against entertainment that is reality TV and live service games.

So... disposable entertainment.

 

[TVB]

I’m curious to hear your thoughts on Ren Seeks Help. I thought it was easily its strongest episode (if you take away the bullshit).

Shit has dragged on for too long that it could've been an 11-minute episode than a sole 22-minute episode

I commend the Games crew for giving their all after John’s fuckups, despite my misgivings about the episodes quality (I don’t like any of the episodes of Games, but I’ll save that sperging for another day).

But yeah Kricfalusi is too much of a retard to understand how his own show worked.

It goes to show you that Nick, like with other big name studios, have been hellbent on hiring very questionable, very retarded people

 

[Trilby]

Shit has dragged on for too long that it could've been an 11-minute episode than a sole 22-minute episode

True, we didn't need that long sequence of Ren walking to the psychiatrist's office.

It goes to show you that Nick, like with other big name studios, have been hellbent on hiring very questionable, very retarded people

True.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I saw the new Megamind sequel while I was doing stuff, and my god this film pretty much ignores the entire first movie.

It makes me convinced that Puss in Boots 2 was a fluke since Dreamworks hasn't made anything as good since.

 

[SherlockMexicano]

Dude, Hobie’s a literal anarchist from a totalitarian universe. Of course he does whatever the fuck he wants.

Second of all, Miles is trying to save his father which is something I would do if I was in that boy’s position. Also, I don’t know about you but I wouldn’t listen to some futuristic vampiric mutant who fucked up his life and continues to do so based on some bullshit theory he came up.

Isn't Miguel the villain tough? Or at least the antagonist? You are not supposed to agree with him.

He is a fantastic character because all that anger was what the writers wanted from you as a reaction.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

These old CN promos of Powerpuff Girls and Ed, Edd n Eddy

Surprised they never made a crossover special of the two shows.

By the way the comment at this one

Like how Johnny Bravo taught kids that being sex crazed pig is wrong. Ed,Edd,&Eddy taught kids even boys can be sexually harrassed.