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The_trans_kid has decided she prefers phallus's over having a real penis because she prefers the feel/texture and she doesn't like how wrinkly/saggy men scrotum's are.
She also admits she's never touched a phallus before.
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I'd actually prefer phallo
After thinking for a while I've actually realized I think I'd be happier with a phallo penis than if I could just wake up tomorrow with a natal penis. I can't say with certainty because I've never touched a phallo penis before, but from the looks of it I think I'd prefer one in terms of texture and feel. Same for the scrotum, I'm not a big fan of the texture natal scotums have or the saggy/wrinkliness they tend to have.

Whereas with a scrotum made from my natal parts it looks like it'll be more smooth, which i prefer. The only thing I envy from natal dicks is the glans and the texture of it cause I know even after glansplasty it tends to flatten sadly :(

But other than that I think I'll be very satisfied with phalloplasty whenever I get it, and I'd actually prefer it. But it just got me wondering, does any of you all feel the same? I mostly see people wishing they'd had a natal penis (which is understandable) but hardly ever any saying they prefer phallo. And yeah I would like my phallo to look as cis passing as possible, but I prefer it this way. Does anyone of you all feel the same?
 
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Wound separation.
All her scars have stretched out. They're a good centimeter wide in some areas. I wonder if this is just bad genetics or poor wound care.
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Would fluctuations in weight help that along?

Parts of the early images remind me of body check photos put out there by anorexics: concentrating the camera on the hips, thigh gap (or more: what would be if it wasn't obscured), forearms for example.

If a person is weight focused then a surgeon offering to take away half the belly would sound like a great idea.

The recovery less so: bed rest, food brought to you and potentially lots of people keeping you company.
 
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batteredpancakes said:
The_trans_kid has decided she prefers phallus's over having a real penis because she prefers the feel/texture and she doesn't like how wrinkly/saggy men scrotum's are.
She also admits she's never touched a phallus before.
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I'd actually prefer phallo
After thinking for a while I've actually realized I think I'd be happier with a phallo penis than if I could just wake up tomorrow with a natal penis. I can't say with certainty because I've never touched a phallo penis before, but from the looks of it I think I'd prefer one in terms of texture and feel. Same for the scrotum, I'm not a big fan of the texture natal scotums have or the saggy/wrinkliness they tend to have.

Whereas with a scrotum made from my natal parts it looks like it'll be more smooth, which i prefer. The only thing I envy from natal dicks is the glans and the texture of it cause I know even after glansplasty it tends to flatten sadly :(

But other than that I think I'll be very satisfied with phalloplasty whenever I get it, and I'd actually prefer it. But it just got me wondering, does any of you all feel the same? I mostly see people wishing they'd had a natal penis (which is understandable) but hardly ever any saying they prefer phallo. And yeah I would like my phallo to look as cis passing as possible, but I prefer it this way. Does anyone of you all feel the same?
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Sounds like an abused lesbian trying to convince herself that she is totally cool with cock on her own terms. Very sad.

Edited to remove ‘girl’ because of the disgusting implications.
 
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I think this is backwards. Mammogram can detect cancer before there's any tumor to feel. If women are told to do self-exams instead of getting a mammogram, by the time they find a lump, the cancer will have been detectable by mammogram for weeks or months.
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In the discussion of harm vs cure this is incorrect. While mammograms can find some very tiny cancers before they are detected, it’s fairly rare. The medical community lumps DCIS in with invasive cancers, and so the statistics are skewed.

However, mammograms do find lobular carcinoma before a woman would discover it on her own. This is a very rare form but it doesn’t present as a feelable lump so they still need to be done. Still, I think if the stats separated DCIS from Invasive ductal cancer results would be very different. There have been articles and studies published about this years ago but interestingly, breast cancer is big business and there was a lot of resistance to change. Especially when it came to trying to recategorize DCIS.

Also, suggesting screening at 40 when the vast majority of cancers are found after 65 causes harm too-false positives, the need for biopsies and stress in women who actually have nothing wrong.

Anyway, this isn’t the place, sorry.
 
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batteredpancakes said:
The_trans_kid has decided she prefers phallus's over having a real penis because she prefers the feel/texture and she doesn't like how wrinkly/saggy men scrotum's are.
She also admits she's never touched a phallus before.
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I'd actually prefer phallo
After thinking for a while I've actually realized I think I'd be happier with a phallo penis than if I could just wake up tomorrow with a natal penis. I can't say with certainty because I've never touched a phallo penis before, but from the looks of it I think I'd prefer one in terms of texture and feel. Same for the scrotum, I'm not a big fan of the texture natal scotums have or the saggy/wrinkliness they tend to have.

Whereas with a scrotum made from my natal parts it looks like it'll be more smooth, which i prefer. The only thing I envy from natal dicks is the glans and the texture of it cause I know even after glansplasty it tends to flatten sadly :(

But other than that I think I'll be very satisfied with phalloplasty whenever I get it, and I'd actually prefer it. But it just got me wondering, does any of you all feel the same? I mostly see people wishing they'd had a natal penis (which is understandable) but hardly ever any saying they prefer phallo. And yeah I would like my phallo to look as cis passing as possible, but I prefer it this way. Does anyone of you all feel the same?
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At no point in this virgin's diatribe does she even mention physical sensation or the use of a penis as a sex organ. She's waxing poetically about penises as an aesthetic object she interacts with, but not one that's part of her and has to perform a certain set of functions. There's just something impressive about the sheer sexlessness of the way this woman describes her would-be sex organs.
 
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TiF complains about anti-phalloplasty sentiment from other TiFs.
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Obviously this is a generalisation- I have a non binary friend who is so stoked for me and is doing research about it because they are fascinated , but overall since ive become open about wanting this surgery, the reactions of other trans people has been mostly either negative or "good for you but I could never do that". I remember a year or so ago I was at a party with a bunch of non binary people, and the topic of Phallo came up. Two of my friends started saying that it looks like a hot dog sewn to you, and that people should just be happy with their natal parts instead of opting for an unfunctional Dick ( their words not mine). Other than one of my friends who is excited for me and won't stop joking about it with me,( in a good way) the best reaction I have gotten from non cis ppl other than them is from my other friend ( also NB) who was like " if you need it you should get it, but when you're recovering I dont want to see that". Which like understandable caus it is gnarly but imagine if we talked about any other surgery that way.

Meanwhile my cis friends reactions have been overwhelmingly supportive with not one mention of how gross it is or how gnarly it will look. They just think it's awesome that I'll have a dick, and are just very curious about recovery time, functionality and how such a thing is even possible, and Im honestly so there for it. My one friend said that she honestly has no idea how anyone would be able to tell a difference after it heals because dicks are so weird in general and is so excited for me to be happy. For my cis friends support isn't conditional, they're just accepting of it and in awe of how far science has come .

So why cant the trans community do the same thing? In my case it's mostly non-transitioning nonbinary people or people who have transitioned but have no genital dysphoria who are grossed out by phalloplasty. Even my own mother who would have every right to be scared and horrified- after all its a major surgery and I'm her only son- is on board and would never even consider being disgusted. or maybe she secretly is, but she wouldn't share that with me because people don't do that

Feels pretty isolating and honestly I may simply distance myself from the trans community after I have phallo especially since there won't be any real difference between me and a just another cis guy.
Two of my friends started saying that it looks like a hot dog sewn to you, and that people should just be happy with their natal parts instead of opting for an unfunctional Dick
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Comments are seething. A huge chunk of them are saying that the negativity is stemming from jealousy.
my guess is actually jealousy. Phalloplasty doesn't seem achievable for a lot of people, especially in the US without insurance and less job security than a lot of other western countries. And in general, it's a surgery a lot of people can't get for different reasons besides insurance, like lack of support, being self employed, all that stuff.

So, the people that can't get it (yet) try accepting not being able to get it by making phalloplasty seem like something they don't want, by making it seem undesirable. Not being able to get a dick is a lot easier to accept if you think that dick would be ugly and non-functional compared to if it would look realistic and work (mostly) like a cis dick.

Then, wether it is because they can't keep shit to themselves or because they feel the need to justify not getting it to other (trans) people, they say something like what your "friends" said.
I think some of it is partly jealousy, since phalloplasty is so inaccessible for so many people. I was guilty of this at one point. Convincing myself that phalloplasty was terrible was a (fucked up) way of coping with the fear that I would never be able to get it.

But I think a big part of it is also TERF shit that got internalized. Especially among guys who are younger and/or earlier in transition. TERFs love-bomb people they perceive as "gender nonconforming women", often aren't obvious that they're TERFs when they're doing it, and a lot of really fucked up misinformation gets wrapped up in that "love".

I think that's where a lot of the fearmongering about surgery and binding and testosterone I've seen in trans spaces comes from. A lot of people have been conditioned to associate "love"/"acceptance"/etc with infantalizing and degrading treatment, where a desire to pursue physical changes to one's body is treated as inherently frightening and dangerous and irrational. And where treating these physical changes as grotesque and defective is normalized.
I think it’s a mix of things. Slight internal transphobia, jealousy, projection, misinformed or simply just unrealistic expectations for aesthetics.

I can’t lie, I’ve been one of those guys before and for me it was because I was misinformed. Most post op pictures I saw were pre glans surgery. For me, that turned me off to the idea of ever getting phallo. I was quickly put in my place and educated around that though. Now I’m eagerly awaiting my consult for this time next year! :)

It’s definitely hard to see your own community be hateful. The best we can do is just seek to understand and educate where we can (if you want to).
Jealously and usually coping with phallo being far out of reach for them. I won’t lie and say I struggled to get phallo because I didn’t due to my very supportive mother whose insurance covered it. For a lot of people who aren’t able to get phallo (I usually see this among the gay trans men) they overcompensate by saying that it’s it something that interests them and try to bring people down. It’s still fucked tho because I would never say something as disrespectful about meta.

It’s pretty funny how many people think phallo penises are subpar and most cis people can’t tell the difference. Obviously after a while there are some things you’ll notice but I’ve had hookups post-op while being completely non-disclosing and none of the women have been like “what’s wrong with your dick?” I usually just say I have ED beforehand then leave it at that
Honestly, there are so many trans guys hating on phallo. It's pretty disgusting, IMO, and just shows that they are jealous.
Yes it's a series of surgeries, yes it's fucking hard and mentall taxing (I got the worst case of pist op depression I have ever had after stage 2 of my phallo), but it is so worth it. I don't think surgery techniques are going to drastically improve in my lifetime (I'm 34), so it was the right decision for me. That isn't the same for everyone, but I would still argue that even if you are in your 20s and are waiting because "it'll get better soon" that it probably won't.
Also, I guess that cis people tend to see man=dick woman=vagina, so it's pretty black and white in their perspective because they have never had to deal with anything different.

Don't really know what I'm trying to say, but I agree with you. It really pisses me off that trans people shit on it so much. You would expect them to at least understand.
But I think a big part of it is also TERF shit that got internalized. Especially among guys who are younger and/or earlier in transition. TERFs love-bomb people they perceive as "gender nonconforming women", often aren't obvious that they're TERFs when they're doing it, and a lot of really fucked up misinformation gets wrapped up in that "love".
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Ah of course they blame Terfs. Everything they hear in trans spaces they don't 100% like = Terfs. It can't be cause phalloplasty looks terrible and doesn't function like a penis at all.
They're so delusional that they think the only way people could be disgusted by phallo results is because Terfs groomed them into thinking it.
 
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