Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[batteredpancakes]

A detransitioned male is on r/phallo asking if he can get a rotdog. Mom made him get SRS and wants him to date men even though he likes woman only.
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MTFTM phallo

I am a detrans man and dealing phallo to restore some function and be able to stand and be again has anyone on here have phallo been super upset since my mom maid me Get srs before I turned 26 and lost insurance I was happy being a girl but still having my parts now I am just a zombie I feel dead I am attracted to women only and my mom says I am a girl now and wants me to date a boy. I caint I would be open to it before srs but I am stuck living with her because I caint work with my mental health and I just hurt every time I see an attractive girl.

This one's sad as clearly the mother had a strong hand in his transition. Makes me wonder if she thought he was gay and now she's insisting he dates men so he looks straight. Kinda like Jazz Jennings.

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I know I am just stuck and now I am missing my parts I liked and stuck with something I hate and am horrified if my mom wants to force me to date men

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I stuggle with phantom pain down their a lot around women and I like trans women but jelous hits I don’t care if I am boy or girl I just want my privite parts back I am feminine and like women’s clothes but I also liked my private parts it just my mom pushed me to get surgery because I was lossing insurance and my sisters was not comfortable with me using women’s bathroom or existing without having it done

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I want to end my life now more then ever I didn’t imagine the pain to be so great I feel like something is wrong

His own sisters were not comfortable with him using the womens bathroom? Probably an AGP then.

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14cubes: fuck your mom's desires for you be your own person friend

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OP: Well it’s to late I already went though with surgery and I am just crying in bed now 24/7​

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14cubes: how did your mom force you to get bottom surgery? you have to jump thru a million hoops with therapists insurance surgeons etc. you never thought to say to any of these people, I don't actually want this? I am starting to think this is a phony post.​

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Of course they think the post is fake.

 

[FrancineCansMcGee]

Weird how the gender euphoria seems to go away when the organs that generate sexual euphoria lose sensitivity.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

Have there been any deaths following complications of these surgeries? I just can’t imagine there haven’t been with all the complications and knowing what poor hygiene troons have.

I know there is the Scott ex-pooner on Twitter says she doesn’t expect to live for much longer because of the complications but surprised there’s not more well known outright deaths. Maybe it’s just gonna take ~10 years ?

The answer must be yes by now, but it's probably kept very private by families and closely guarded by institutions. Hospitals have to keep track of their mortality rates, but you'd have to be someone of importance (or have a FOIA in hand) to read the reports and see the details. (I bet some life & health insurance companies know those details, LOL.) And if a troon dies after being sent home, does their death get tallied as a surgical complication? Or is there a nice loophole there? There have been lots of troons and pooners who dropped off reporting on their progress on Reddit and Xitter. But who knows if they healed, died, or whatever? It would take a lot of research to dox and investigate them individually. Some families don't even bother with writing obits these days. Or they'll use the gentle art of obscuring the cause of death in their obit writing. In the US, it's a PITA to get your hands on a real death certificate that spells out the cause of death if you're not family or legally entitled. And if the doc that filled it out was lazy, rushed or whatever, you'll get two or three words of medical speak that don't make much sense even after looking them up.

I expect that we'll all know more when the lawsuits start hitting the courts. Lawyers are pretty thorough, know how to swing an FOIA, and quoting "trans healthcare" mortality rates would be useful in their arguments.

 

[Positron]

Have there been any deaths following complications of these surgeries? I just can’t imagine there haven’t been with all the complications and knowing what poor hygiene troons have.

We don't have much info because obviously the dead cannot post on reddit, and they don't have loved ones who would warn the world.

When death is reported, it is from medical journals and is horrifying, as in the case of a 18-year-old boy who had much of his skin removed due to necrotizing celluitis. Disturbing pictures in paper.

 

[batteredpancakes]

Most people who die from surgeries don't die on the table or even in the same hospital so it'll be hard to tell apart from suicides.
There's definitely been a few mentioned here who died a few weeks from surgeries but the obituaries never delve into the cause of death. Even coroners reports won't necessarily record the cause of death as stemming from SRS complications.

All unvague deaths stemming from SRS complications will arise from Medical Journals. And those journals only happen with everybody's approval and are often locked behind paywalls.

I did hear the one of the big Thai surgeons (I forgot who) has a few deaths based on what a patient asked him. I doubt there would be any way to get that information properly.

 

[Xanax and Wine]

If the surgery complications won't kill them the suicide probably will

 

[User names must be unique]

Most people who die from surgeries don't die on the table or even in the same hospital so it'll be hard to tell apart from suicides.
There's definitely been a few mentioned here who died a few weeks from surgeries but the obituaries never delve into the cause of death. Even coroners reports won't necessarily record the cause of death as stemming from SRS complications.

All unvague deaths stemming from SRS complications will arise from Medical Journals. And those journals only happens with everybody's approval and are often locked behind paywalls.

I did hear the one of the big Thai surgeons (I forgot who) has a few deaths based on what a patient asked him. I doubt there would be any way to get that information properly.

considering the way some talk about these "life saving" surgeries, to blame the surgeons for deaths, is like blaming a surgeon for not being able to patch up a bullet wound.

 

[obsdj]

Of course they think the post is fake.

To be fair, a lot of people do use Reddit as a creative writing outlet. Mostly in the relationship/advice subs or AITA, but any story that outlandish and guaranteed to get people riled up should be viewed with at least some suspicion.

 

[batteredpancakes]

To be fair, a lot of people do use Reddit as a creative writing outlet. Mostly in the relationship/advice subs or AITA, but any story that outlandish and guaranteed to get people riled up should be viewed with at least some suspicion.

True (I've found a few fake SRS posts myself) but the problem here is that there is nothing here that is outlandish.

We know by many accounts that people are often pushed through to get SRS. Most SRS medical providers/insurance function on "informed consent" and do no real screening that would rule out emotional pressure from family members. This young girl is using only her personal experience in judging how SRS goes. Nevermind this dude might have a different insurance provider, live in different state or maybe even live in an entirely different country with a different medical system.

These ignorant girls always yell FAKE when people have different experiences than they do.

 

[sperginity]

if that post is real, the guy sounds like someone who was extremely slow to begin with or had his IQ tanked by puberty blockers. if it is the 2nd thing he never felt sexual attraction and its an aesthetics thing to want to date women. or its all bullshit, idk.

 

[batteredpancakes]

This Indian girl got her Top surgery for only $1650.
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She opted for the keyhole technique despite having large breasts.

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Opted for keyhole with a larger saggier chest but the skin has started retracting very well. (There is a slight seroma/fluid buildup on the left side which will be drained tomorrow by my clinic)

Chest looked absolutely horrendous immediately post-op but I'm really happy with the way my chest is healing and how well my skin is retracting. Expecting more retraction by the 6 month mark and post that aiming to fill in the leftover loose skin with pectoral muscles and then getting a scarless skin tightening for the final touch (yes that's a thing now). It's a long process but I didn't want the DI or T-anchor scars, so yeah this is an option too for the guys who are willing to be patient and put in the work in exchange of not having scars.

This is from India and cost me a total of $1650 paid from my own pocket (all inclusive of both pre and post surgery care as well)

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[SofondaCox]

Pooner is suicidal because her phallus is too small.
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I feel suicidal over my penis size (post stage 2)

It's 3.5 inches relaxed, or 4 inches stretched. I don't know if the ED will accommodate 4 inches or I'll be stuck in the 3.5 inch range. I waited 10 years for this surgery, I've used all my money, literally sacrificed an arm and a leg (graft sites), and I feel unbearably miserable.

I'm good at being stoic, not getting overemotional etc, but a couple of nights ago I actually cried myself to sleep over it, thinking about suicide.

I cannot stand these emotions. I was led to believe that my penis would be about 6 inches post op. I feel cheated, miserable, and trapped. I feel unlovable and untouchable.

I'd really appreciate any support. Thank you

Yes but this was happening regardless of phallus size.

What a horrible cunt she is. Millions of men have four inches, sometimes even less. Can’t imagine what it would feel like to see that somebody with genitals your size is so disgusted she wants to die.

This Indian girl got her Top surgery for only $1650.
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She opted for the keyhole technique despite having large breasts.

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Opted for keyhole with a larger saggier chest but the skin has started retracting very well. (There is a slight seroma/fluid buildup on the left side which will be drained tomorrow by my clinic)

Chest looked absolutely horrendous immediately post-op but I'm really happy with the way my chest is healing and how well my skin is retracting. Expecting more retraction by the 6 month mark and post that aiming to fill in the leftover loose skin with pectoral muscles and then getting a scarless skin tightening for the final touch (yes that's a thing now). It's a long process but I didn't want the DI or T-anchor scars, so yeah this is an option too for the guys who are willing to be patient and put in the work in exchange of not having scars.

This is from India and cost me a total of $1650 paid from my own pocket (all inclusive of both pre and post surgery care as well)

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Impossible to fault women in India for trying to escape from femininity. Those men behave like jackals and nobody does a fuckin thing about it.

 

[I call shenanigans]

Of course they think the post is fake.

I really hope it is fake.

 

[(The REAL) Jack Torrance]

But she had the stage of phalloplasty where they take the arm and assemble the rot dog, she was past the hysto. She was having unspecified complications and died shortly after, within four months. Cause of death was not listed, lots of speculation. But I am working on finding the legitimate cause of death and should have it soon.

With all the talk of deaths following SRS I recalled the story you told about your acquaintance who died after phalloplasty (ETA, was actually meta not phallo). Did you ever find out if it was from surgery complications or 41%?

Relevant posts here, here and here.

 

[batteredpancakes]

I really hope it is fake.

It's not the first MTFTM I've seen posting about reconstruction. I've seen maybe around half a dozen different users. And I've seen a few FTMTF as well.

People have commented some more. One girl is telling him he should post to detransition subreddits instead of r/phallo so no Terfs see it and use it for their propaganda.

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OP:
Well it’s to late I already went though with surgery and I am just crying in bed now 24/7

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14cubes:
how did your mom force you to get bottom surgery? you have to jump thru a million hoops with therapists insurance surgeons etc. you never thought to say to any of these people, I don't actually want this? I am starting to think this is a phony post.

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chiensauvage:
ignorant comment, have you done this process? it's lengthy but it isn't impossible to get through and regret if you aren't being honest with yourself/are convinced other problems will be solved by surgery/transition when they won't be. there are plenty of stories of AFAB people having phallo and regretting it/detransitioning entirely (and plenty of AMABs too). the detrans subreddit is full of these stories, people think they want something all the time until they actually get it or use transition to deal with more serious issues that sex changes don't solve. this stuff is complicated, don't be rude to people who are suffering.

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14 cubes:
Then I recommend this person ask their questions in the detrans subreddit. this sub has been infiltrated by TERFs before, posts Cross posted to anti trans subs or on other sites, and I am generally wary of people who claim that someone forced transition on them. in 99% of cases that is the opposite.

Edit: If I am just being paranoid and OP is legit, then I sincerely apologize, and wish them luck on their journey to themself. medical transition is an extremely difficult and arduous process, and I have also, thru my own experience, seen first hand the ways that transition "doesn't fix everything".

 

[I call shenanigans]

It's not the first MTFTM I've seen posting about reconstruction. I've seen maybe around half a dozen different users. And I've seen a few FTMTF as well.

It’s not the MTFTM part I hope is fake, it’s the mummy forced me to have my dick cut off when I didn’t want it, and now is pushing me to date men when I’m a straight man. Pathetic little dweeb if it’s true, with a nightmare mother.

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[batteredpancakes]

It’s not the MTFTM part I hope if fake, it’s the mummy forced me to have my dick cut off when I didn’t want it, and now is pushing me to date men when I’m a straight man. Pathetic little dweeb if it’s true, with a nightmare mother.

She pressured him because he was turning 26 and he would need to get off their insurance. He feared missing out on an opportunity.
He regrets and feels like mummy made him because she's always had strong control of his life and he can't register that he, as a 26yo grown man, made that decision my himself even if she was encouraging him. He's immature like this because he's never made decisions before, she always does.

A huge portion of young transitioners always seem to be feminine boys with overbearing controlling mothers who seem to have a hand in managing their kids medical decisions; even when they reach an age where they should be taking over their own medical responsibilities.

He reminds me of Jazz Jennings. Munhausens by proxy mother who grooms the "gay" away and then finds out he wasn't even gay. Jazz has dated woman yet he confidently told Barbara Walters he only liked men as a kid.

 

[Dick Mason]

Not gonna lie, not much gets me on the internet these days but "I can't even get licked" made me gag. Fucking Christ.
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"part 2"
Bottom Surgery II, My Vag Stink'o'poo

"Is that something I gotta live with now? An ugly, horribly useless, smelly fake coochie?" should be the subtitle text for this thread.

They're like a character from a David Lynch production. They bellow that line, then continue peeling potatoes in the back of a kitchen.

Troons dick inversion has all the dick skin die off inside so it's just all granulation tissue.
Doesn't want another go at a skin graft. Just wants his amhole closed.
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Is it possible to surgically close the neo vagina again?

If so, what are the downsides? I am talking about health related issues that may arise if a vaginal cavity has been created and then closed again.

I am asking because my vagina is a nightmare... I lost the entire penile and scrotal skin transplant. My vaginal canal is literally just granulation tissue, hypergranulation (a lot) and fibrin (3 months post surgery). It won't heal properly and I have no sensation whatsoever, as everything died off, inclusing skin around the entrance. Thus I have my doubts that even if it would heal, penetration would ever be any good for me... + I have below 10cm of depth.

So yeah... I kinda wanna have it closed... What would that mean for me in terms of healing and long term health?

He said on his profile that his surgeon hasn't responding to messages in a month.
Surgeon is Dr. Taskov, a german plastic surgeon.

If I were a doctor that did genital botchjobs, I'd have round the clock armed guards. When every result is a horror, and every patient a wackjob, the odds of violence happening have to be high.

His own sisters were not comfortable with him using the womens bathroom? Probably an AGP then.

He's clearly mentally retarded.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

He reminds me of Jazz Jennings. Munhausens by proxy mother

Remember that it was HER idea to throw a "Farewell Penis Party" to celebrate the genital mutilation of her son. Jazz had to cut into a penis shaped cake.

 

[Squirrel Nutkin]

Can 100% confirm that insurance, timing etc. wind up playing an outsize role in these decisions. The situation that brought me around to TERFdom in the mid aughts was exactly that: mentally ill kid, mom who desperately wanted the kid's "true male identity" to be the Answer, then the mom was moving out of the country and rammed the kid's top surgery through so it could be done while the kid was still on the mom's insurance. Surgery took over 7 hours because the kid bled out IIRC.

These days the mom has a profitable sideline as an "LGBTQ parent consultant." I wish I was kidding.