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[quaawaa]

It's not just the rules of the road that urbanists have trouble understanding:

Garret Foster pointed a gun at Daniel Perry with zero provocation from Perry. Perry was 100% justified in shooting him:

Foster wasn't run over and fuck Abbott for not pardoning him.

Some racism:




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[F-14 Tomcat]

It's not just the rules of the road that urbanists have trouble understanding:
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Garret Foster pointed a gun at Daniel Perry with zero provocation from Perry. Perry was 100% justified in shooting him:
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Foster wasn't run over and fuck Abbott for not pardoning him.

Some racism:
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These people live in a completely separate reality and somehow reddit has created a dimensional merge. It's the only explanation.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Yeah I know that. I'm just not sure that all of them were built explicitly to have a retail unit on the ground floor with separate living units above, maybe they'd be paired so the owner and his family could live above, or sold entirely as dwellings then converted to retail by the owner.

Not so much now, but even into the 1980s and early 1990s, the upper level of historic downtown retail was not residential, but usually some sort smaller office space(s) like attorneys, barbers, etc.

Unless the owner had an upstairs apartment for himself and his family, they weren't divided into apartments (especially due to lack of windows).

 

[F-14 Tomcat]

You know, I've been thinking lately. These urbanist weirdos really want a place of their own to fuck up improve, but the issue is nobody likes them enough to hand over infinite dictator-like control. I propose we give them what they want, using something nobody else wants! I present to you my proposition for the site of Bugtopia, the glorious land of Bir Tawil!

Due to fucked up post-colonial borders, neither Egypt or Sudan claim this 2000 square km slice of land. There's absolutely nothing of value on this land, but who cares? You don't need natural resources or industry to build a city, you just need third spaces! Just imagine all the opportunities this land provides to your average bugman. There's no roads, so cars can't invade this land. It's all empty desert, which gives you ample space for 5 high speed rail lines, 4 lane wide bike roads, and 5 over 1s as far as the eye can see. Thinking of all those bodegas and barcades is making me excited! Now, you may be asking, what about the climate?

Hmm, bummer. That doesn't matter though, you can bike in all weather chud. Anyways, I've left the best part for last. Due to its geographic location, Bugtopia will have easy access to all the African migrants you could ever hope for! No city is complete without them.

 

[ComStar]

You know, I've been thinking lately. These urbanist weirdos really want a place of their own to fuck up improve, but the issue is nobody likes them enough to hand over infinite dictator-like control. I propose we give them what they want, using something nobody else wants! I present to you my proposition for the site of Bugtopia, the glorious land of Bir Tawil!
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Due to fucked up post-colonial borders, neither Egypt or Sudan claim this 2000 square km slice of land. There's absolutely nothing of value on this land, but who cares? You don't need natural resources or industry to build a city, you just need third spaces! Just imagine all the opportunities this land provides to your average bugman. There's no roads, so cars can't invade this land. It's all empty desert, which gives you ample space for 5 high speed rail lines, 4 lane wide bike roads, and 5 over 1s as far as the eye can see. Thinking of all those bodegas and barcades is making me excited! Now, you may be asking, what about the climate?
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Hmm, bummer. That doesn't matter though, you can bike in all weather chud. Anyways, I've left the best part for last. Due to its geographic location, Bugtopia will have easy access to all the African migrants you could ever hope for! No city is complete without them.

Satellite images show mountainous or rocky terrain to the east, which would lend itself to the kind of warrens or bug hives these people dream of. And since it's all untouched, they can carve out their utopia however they like!

All they have to do is load up their cargo bikes with tools and tents, go to Wadi Haifa and from there it's a smooth 140 mile trek across the desert sands to the holy land of Bir Tawil!

 

[The Grimace]

If you make the Chinese make a good product, they will. You have to know exactly how to deal with Chinamen to get them to do what you want though, if you don't fully understand how they work they will take your gweilo ass for a ride. I've owned exquisitely made in China products as good as anything made anywhere else, and I've bought things that were landfill right out of the box, not to mention dangerously unsafe articles not compliant with any first world standards. I've owned a lot more terrible Chinese products than good ones, of course. Buyer beware.

ETA: Except for steel. You will never get good steel buying it from China. Never ever.

Chinese steel, eh? Now I have an excuse to post this:

Spoiler: long greentext but worth the read

In regards to driving in China, that is a fucking nightmare.

Don't forget how apparently in China, you're supposed to hit to kill so you can't get sued and be forced to pay for lifelong medical care for the victim.

 

[Beautiful Border]

You know, I've been thinking lately. These urbanist weirdos really want a place of their own to fuck up improve, but the issue is nobody likes them enough to hand over infinite dictator-like control. I propose we give them what they want, using something nobody else wants! I present to you my proposition for the site of Bugtopia, the glorious land of Bir Tawil!

The only reason I know about this place is because a couple of years ago there was a story about a father who traveled there and claimed it as a kingdom so his daughter could be a "real princess". And the only reason I remember that story was because of how progressives reacted to it. Did they react to it as the heart-warming puff piece it ultimately is? Nah, instead they were calling him and his daughter dirty white colonialist bastards, naturally.

 

[JustStopDude]

Don't forget how apparently in China, you're supposed to hit to kill so you can't get sued and be forced to pay for lifelong medical care for the victim.

It's not that you are supposed to "hit to kill". You don't ever help someone, like ever.

The states have numerous "good Samaritan" laws where you can't get sued for say breaking someone's rib because you did CPR on them.

That doesn't exist in China. And a number of elderly people now try to scam that. This in turn has made it where someone could stab you and everyone will let you bleed out rather than risk the liability.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

It's not just the rules of the road that urbanists have trouble understanding:

Garret Foster pointed a gun at Daniel Perry with zero provocation from Perry. Perry was 100% justified in shooting him:

Foster wasn't run over and fuck Abbott for not pardoning him.

Some racism:




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As far as the Perry/Foster thing and as I understand, he can't be pardoned with a stroke of a pen, legally it has to go through more bureaucracy first, but yeah it's still bullshit.

However, as far as "stand your ground" goes, these are the same type of people who claim anyone in a car is trying to murder them, and that will kill any legitimate arguments in a trial, especially if your Internet posts come to light: either you're a sociopath who just wanted to murder a motorist, or you're a mentally deranged man who will be deemed be courts too dangerous to be in the public.

 

[Local FloRida-man]

You know, I've been thinking lately. These urbanist weirdos really want a place of their own to fuck up improve, but the issue is nobody likes them enough to hand over infinite dictator-like control. I propose we give them what they want, using something nobody else wants! I present to you my proposition for the site of Bugtopia, the glorious land of Bir Tawil!
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Due to fucked up post-colonial borders, neither Egypt or Sudan claim this 2000 square km slice of land. There's absolutely nothing of value on this land, but who cares? You don't need natural resources or industry to build a city, you just need third spaces! Just imagine all the opportunities this land provides to your average bugman. There's no roads, so cars can't invade this land. It's all empty desert, which gives you ample space for 5 high speed rail lines, 4 lane wide bike roads, and 5 over 1s as far as the eye can see. Thinking of all those bodegas and barcades is making me excited! Now, you may be asking, what about the climate?
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Hmm, bummer. That doesn't matter though, you can bike in all weather chud. Anyways, I've left the best part for last. Due to its geographic location, Bugtopia will have easy access to all the African migrants you could ever hope for! No city is complete without them.

As much as it would improve our society to banish them all to the reddit badlands, the point of the urbanism ideology is to impose themselves on their less savage neighbors. The only way they'll accept a plot of land to build their own empire on is if it already had an empire built on it, and it has a cache of nuclear warheads to threaten the rest of the world with. We'd need a convincing scam city to get them to buy in. Maybe get the guys who built Dubai or that middle east wall city on the phone for tips.

Chinese steel, eh? Now I have an excuse to post this:

Spoiler: long greentext but worth the read

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Tbf, if you ever think 250 yuan (35 USD) will get you an all expense paid weekend at a theme park then you'd be the exact type of retard who deserves to be taken for all he's got.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

China has an extensive rail system because the PLA can and will shutdown airspace on absolutely zero notice.

Flying domestically in China is notoriously unreliable. And nothing in China makes a "profit".

In regards to driving in China, that is a fucking nightmare. Once you leave the coastal cities, the infrastructure disappears in places. Even within the coastal cities, the "tofu" construction practices mean that its not unusual for an entire section of highway to just collapse.

Train travel is literally the only reliable way to get around China.

But, but, but...this bugman is praising life in his 15 minute city in China. Sounds like heaven.

Check out that edgy Swftian (Jonathan, not Taylor) satire, too. Though the bit of him going down the kiddie slide looks just a tad creepy, oh well.

 

[DavidS877]

China's traffic looks like how FuckCars thinks all traffic is, yes, this was after a holiday with a new checkpoint and bad weather.

 

[User names must be unique]

But, but, but...this bugman is praising life in his 15 minute city in China. Sounds like heaven.

wow that's us told, he really changed my mind and debunked all the conservatard talking points by being condescending and snarky.

What a colossal faggot, though it is an interesting choice of video for a guy who is clearly getting payed to shill for Nio a chink car manufacturer.

 

[Aegir]

Motorcycle youtuber RyanF9 takes his first dive into urbanist talking points.

Video covers the pickup truck size debate, but the video tends towards carbrained As Ryan argues that car size doesn't really matter and that grill size and angle matter more for pedestrian safety. Also backs it up with physics calculations and peer reviewed papers instead of just blindly citing Strong Towns. Very carbrained behavior reminiscent of Rob.

 

[quaawaa]

Motorcycle youtuber RyanF9 takes his first dive into urbanist talking points.

Video covers the pickup truck size debate, but the video tends towards carbrained As Ryan argues that car size doesn't really matter and that grill size and angle matter more for pedestrian safety. Also backs it up with physics calculations and peer reviewed papers instead of just blindly citing Strong Towns. Very carbrained behavior reminiscent of Rob.

I also noticed The Fast Lane Truck (a pickup truck review channel) has been making urbanist-lite videos shilling kei trucks:

There’s no way that their normal audience likes this sort of thing.

There’s also no way that a guy who reviews pickup trucks for a living doesn’t know that beds come in multiple sizes and that the Kei truck can’t carry anywhere close to as much weight or travel at highway speeds when laden.

The YouTube algorithm has to be pushing this sort of stuff hard and everyone is trying to cash in.

 

[Midwit]

or travel at highway speeds when laden

Guy I know who drives a kei van says they can't travel at highway speeds at all because of the fact that they have to be limited to 660cc engines, which effectively means you've got a car powered by a mid-size motorbike engine rather than one that's actually suited for cars.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Motorcycle youtuber RyanF9 takes his first dive into urbanist talking points.

An honest data user would link his cites in the description. I assume he's using highly biased papers, written with a priori assumptions about large vehicles, and ignoring that vehicle safety regulations have demanded progressively taller grilles for the last thirty years.

 

[Vecr]

An honest data user would link his cites in the description. I assume he's using highly biased papers, written with a priori assumptions about large vehicles, and ignoring that vehicle safety regulations have demanded progressively taller grilles for the last thirty years.

What's the optimal height? He cited 125 centimeters, that's 4ft 1in, not super short. I hope no one's literally advocating for a 1980s sports car wedge.

 

[teriyakiburns]

What's the optimal height? He cited 125 centimeters, that's 4ft 1in, not super short. I hope no one's literally advocating for a 1980s sports car wedge.

There isn't one, strictly speaking. The regs don't specify it directly, but instead require that head impacts on the bonnet (hood) don't exceed a certain force at certain speeds. They also require a maximum knee and leg deflection on impact as part of this. The simplest way to conform is to raise the bonnet leading edge and reduce the lever effect.

The regs get very complicated. There are modifications to the rules depending on the shape of the nose, height of bumper, where to define the leading edge and so on.

Example from the 2009 UK regs (which are a copy of the EU regs, which are in turn a copy of the UN regs):

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/eur/2009/631/annex/part/I

It doesn't help matters that any urbanist essay on the topic muddles up pedestrian impact safety and driver visibility, then throws in vehicle impact safety between cars and bikes as a confounding issue. These are all valid problems to consider, but because they mix them together into a single argument, it becomes impossible to address their core point. The bike issue is particularly egregious, because high speed impacts (anything over 10 mph, I believe) aren't reasonably mitigated by the shape of the vehicle and are a simple matter of speed and mass. Basic road awareness is much more important at that point, but bikers and cyclists seem to believe that traffic rules, including awareness of other road users, don't apply to them. They also seem to believe that lower cars are safer because they will "slide over" the bonnet and presumably land unharmed, which is so retarded that I'm not sure how the proponents of the position are able to breathe.

The long and the short of it is, a truck with a high nose might be marginally less safe in terms of visibility, which will lead to more pedestrian impacts, but at the speeds required for compliance testing under these regulations, they are much, much less likely to suffer serious injuries.

 

[Fried-Rice12]

I also noticed The Fast Lane Truck (a pickup truck review channel) has been making urbanist-lite videos shilling kei trucks:

There’s no way that their normal audience likes this sort of thing.

There’s also no way that a guy who reviews pickup trucks for a living doesn’t know that beds come in multiple sizes and that the Kei truck can’t carry anywhere close to as much weight or travel at highway speeds when laden.

The YouTube algorithm has to be pushing this sort of stuff hard and everyone is trying to cash in.

Those shitty jap trucks are barely sufficient for tofu delivery. The only reason they exist is because retarded jap legal nonsense. The only advantage I can see for these tofu wagons is navigating tight turns on mountain roads.