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The mental image of a Hilux embedded into the superstructure of a sunk battleship at Pearl Harbor has brought a smile to my face on this cold, dreary monday, so thank you.
Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion
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Fucking finally, we'll have a common border with our Polish cunt friends again!
Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki
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GM didnt start making the small block engine until the 50s making it hard to copy in the 30s. This play is called the LazorPig where you make unsubstantiated claims about engines. But here you know in your hearts that this is true.
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jje100010001
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As April approaches, when will the fun times start in the Rada?
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Im late to the tank sperging, but I want to throw my observations in because I've been seeing a lot of cope on X about the wunderwaffen Abrams getting destroyed.
It reminds me of how Hamas took out a few Merkavas. Those are supposed to be one of the safest tanks for the crew and very well protected against most threats but some well placed anti-tank missiles and drone attacks took them out. I have no idea how the crew fared in those attacks.
If you use any tool incorrectly or lack the skill to handle it, you can easily endanger yourself and others. Im not sure how well trained the Ukraine tank crews were but I would venture to say it wasn't nearly enough.
It reminds me of how Hamas took out a few Merkavas. Those are supposed to be one of the safest tanks for the crew and very well protected against most threats but some well placed anti-tank missiles and drone attacks took them out. I have no idea how the crew fared in those attacks.
If you use any tool incorrectly or lack the skill to handle it, you can easily endanger yourself and others. Im not sure how well trained the Ukraine tank crews were but I would venture to say it wasn't nearly enough.
Kennedy had no problem letting the coup against Diệm go forward in the early 60s and the US military later encouraged another one, this time against Nguyễn Khánh a few years later. Increasingly plausible that some are encouraging it in the Biden admin or would not be upset if one took place.
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Sister Miriam Godwinson
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Went out to buy cigarettes I hope, because the only other explanation for 700k drafted men mysteriously vanishing into thin air is Ukraine lying about their combat losses, and they would never do that, would they?
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I seriously hope that there's a coup, if only to see how the media and NPC's deal with the sudden narrative switch from Zelensky being the saviour of Western Liberal Values
to corrupt Neo-Nazi-enabling Putler plant.
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I seriously hope that there's a coup, if only to see how the media and NPC's deal with the sudden narrative switch from Zelensky being the saviour of Western Liberal Values
An example of something similar being done in the past was the Egyptian Coup of 2013. During that coup, american journalists seemed have been literally handed out the same talking points describing the coup as a positive and necessary thing. They had also been carefully coached to avoid calling the coup a coup. Most large media outlets also had "expert guests" all lined up to be interviewed about how the coup which wasn't a coup was a wonderful and necessary thing.
It was generally explained that although the government was democratically elected, it had governed according to its own agenda rather than governing through consensus which is apparently how its supposed to be done. As Obama explained to the government before it was overthrown "there is more to democracy that just winning elections".
The New York Times described the reaction to the coup as follows:
Tahrir Square, where tens of thousands of opponents of the government had gathered each night since Sunday to demand Mr. Morsi’s removal, erupted in fireworks and jubilation at news of the ouster.
If Zelensky is removed, the narrative will be that he was an amiable dunce. A man just too good to govern whose inner goodness prevented him front doing what was necessary to win the war. That Zelensky was not a strong enough leader to stop the corruption and that the new "consensus" government of generals would be much more effective until democracy could be restored.
Besides which they can point out that the country is already under martial law and the constitution suspended. A council of generals would just be a more efficient way to rule the country under martial law versus an unelected president.
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Neocon darling Senator Marco Rubio admits he always knew Ukraine was fucked but didn't want to say it publicly.
“We have the reality of it is that Ukraine is small compared to Russia in terms of size and its ability to bring scale, its ability to force, conscript people… I’m just being honest,” he said. “You know, in the past, I have tried not to talk about this publicly because I thought it undermined the leverage that Ukraine had, but now it’s the reality.”
What he doesn't address is how much needless death & destruction was caused because of this fucking fairy tale they sold.
“We have the reality of it is that Ukraine is small compared to Russia in terms of size and its ability to bring scale, its ability to force, conscript people… I’m just being honest,” he said. “You know, in the past, I have tried not to talk about this publicly because I thought it undermined the leverage that Ukraine had, but now it’s the reality.”
What he doesn't address is how much needless death & destruction was caused because of this fucking fairy tale they sold.
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This is something I see a lot, and really just speaks to normal peoples ignorance of the Tank. Despite popular belief, armor and ERA and its kin are the absolute last ditch effort to protect the vehicle, not the main line. In arms races, armor is always going to be a generation behind, just because its far easier to put holes in things than it is to make them impregnable. As a result, a lot of protective focus has moved towards making a mission kill survivable for the crew - We've hit the upper limit of what we can reasonably do with current materials to stop shells entirely, so all we can do now is reduce how many tankers get pasted when we're not good enough. Everything else has been focused into screening, awareness, etc to make it less likely you get surprised by light infantry with RPG's - Can't get shot in the ass if you spot and retaliate against light infantry before they get the angle.
However, this contrasts with the Normie perception of the tank, which is an impenetrable bulwark of steel that cannot be stopped. To normal folks, a tank that can have a hole put in it is a shitty tank. Video games and popular media have made this worse, with tanks eating RPG's and being "ok" or bouncing shot after shot after shot (Lol not against modern weapons, that's for sure). The Gulf wars made this even worse, with the Abrams trading extremely favorably against shitty outdated tanks with untrained crews. But now they're facing comparatively modern vehicles, with reasonably trained crews, firing modern ammunitions. The myth of Abrams invulnerability was spread so hard and held onto so desperately, with people coping in prior losses about crew kill vs mission kill (Which doesn't fucking matter, a dismounted tank crew cannot perform the job of a tank, its good their alive but that operation is still in jeopardy) to hold onto the myth.
The Abrams has pretty good crew preservation techniques, and in its Depleted Uranium armored state, is right up near the edge of what we can do material science wise. The export models, lacking said uranium, fall short of that, but the overall armor scheme is still sound, if now a bit overwrought and underdelivered for the cost. But even Depleted Uranium isn't impregnable.
Anyone with a modicum of knowledge knew that these tanks would get fucked up just as much as Russia's fancy next generation tanks would, because Tanks are merely rolling direct fire artillery platforms, not iron fortresses. The coping and seething is just normies catching up to another reality of warfare.
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Well the biggest issue that I've seen with the Ukrainian's use of Western tanks (based on the video footage we've gotten) is that they're using them in singles, rather than in multi-vehicle platoons. That Abrams that got taken out is particularly egregious in that it appears that it was operating entirely alone without any other tank or support.
I'm half-wondering if the Hohols are remembering those old wartime tales of Waffen-SS panzer men using a single Tiger tank to successfully fight off waves of Soviet tanks and thinking they can do the same with the NATO-donated Wunderwaffen...completely forgetting that not only were those instances of single Tigers holding their own very rare, but the men that manned Tiger tanks were almost universally veteran tankers with a lot of combat experience under their belts.
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Forget about the French, the Americans on the other hand.
This probably belongs in the US politics thread, but it would explain the migrant crisis at the southern US border:
The legal framework is probably already there:
https://www.uscis.gov/military/natu...served honorably in,not apply or are reduced.
An army of non citizens on American soil armed to the teeth. What could go wrong?
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Hey, it did wonders for the Romans.
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But I was told there are 500,000 men willing and eager to join the Ukrainian army. They would sweep the field like the ghosts in Return of the King!
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Auxiliaries replacing the citizen army? It's ovaah
But hey, if you go down this road, it means goth chicks are now everywhere, sacking and plundering.
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For a moment I thought they had killed the dog or something, thankfully its just cringe propaganda.
Between the lone Abrams and that video last year where the Hohols drove an IFV straight into a clearly visible anti-tank mine I'm wondering if the hohols geniunely believed the whole "NATO weapons are indestructible" propaganda. Would also explain the Leopards charging in the open into a minefield.
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From the ever-grinding rumor mill.
Yesterday Alexander Mercouris was also speculating that the audio of German generals talking about how best to blast Kerch Bridge might have been sent from Singapore.
Yesterday Alexander Mercouris was also speculating that the audio of German generals talking about how best to blast Kerch Bridge might have been sent from Singapore.
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Nothing burger
The VAST majority of illegals just want gibs and money, not citizenship. Most plan to suck up as much cash as possible then retire back home and give remittances.
We already have non-citizens serving on the military, it's rare but happens.