Trashfire WPATH Medical Documents Leak

To be fair, I support technological transhumanism over the fetish worship of modern clown world. If the opportunity arises to chrome myself the fuck out like a Cyberpunk character in my lifetime, I'm gonna take it.
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Actually I’m always seeing pushback/spin from the more “reasonable“ troons (who aren’t just screeching fake conspiracy theory.)

So…what needs to happen is doctors need to give troons the drugs they request, which are likely more untested?

Oh and it’s fine to give some children drugs to stunt their development, we just need to screen them more.
My god do those retarded troons even google what the fuck hormones do before vomiting their idiocy on the internet? They're fucking retarded, the meds they're asking for are tested and we know how they work already and that's why they're not getting them. In men, progesterone is a precursor to testosterone. Just because you identify as a woman doesn't mean your brain does, it'll just take it and make you a bald neck beard.

Spiro is also like the first medicine they give actual women when they exhibit symptoms of looking like a man. Not sure why he's complaining about that.
 
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No shit. HRT isn't the IRL character creator that F1NN5TER is tricking children into believing it to be.
Even the actual scientists and doctors who have gone to school for years don't even fully understand all of the mechanisms behind hormones, how they interact with each other, and the long-term effects of artificial hormones can and will have on opposite sex people. So the paper-thin explanations of "puberty blockers" and the "titty skittles" are equal parts horrifying and bizarre. These people have no idea of the long term ramifications of their short term actions. We are already starting to see some of it with the rapid bone degeneration (keffals), blindness (THWOMP), and the many instances of strokes, heart attacks, and cancer from these artificial chemicals in people that they're not supposed to be in. Who knows what other literal man-made horrors we will see in the coming decades if this continues on?
i hope that news anchor faces the same punishment with how annoying his voice is
The bigger crime is the blurred face of the dude, and not even saying "trans woman". They're literally peddling *actual* misinformation, trying to portray the situation as a bunch of violent kids attacking an innocent helpless woman, when the actual truth is its a pedophile dude who got his ass kicked foe trying to creep on and take photos of little boys. Total journoscum death.
The pharmaceutical industry has had this shit coming for too long. Between downplaying the addictive nature of opiates and trooning out kids they know damn well don't have any business going through that process, those people need to be bent over a barrel. No ship's unsinkable, no prison unbreakable, and no industry untouchable.
I have the tiniest bit of optimism, if only because it's been shown that even the biggest of industries can be put on notice and called on their shit if the powers that be actually grow some balls and do their jobs. The tobacco industry has been the government whipping boy for the last ~40 years, and they were once thought unbeatable. When the antitrust people actually had some teeth, they nroke up the largest energy company in the world (standard oil), broke up the largest telecommunications company in the world (AT&T), and the damn near brought Microsoft to heel in the 90's. So it can be done. It might cost more bodies, maybe the kids of a few high ranking politicians, or a famous celebrity dipshit need to get debilitating mutilations and suffer from a rare incurable cancer from whoremoans and surgeries for it to happen, but that's a sacrifice that I'm willing for them to make.
So, I will write my true opinion here......
I think it's a combination of the money, as you stated, and it's seen as an "easy way up" for the stereotypical "geek who lives in his moms basement". Because the alphabet mafia have been the current favored thing in the US culture for the past ~10 years or so, simply by latching onto the LGB train, and gaining all of the oppression points and then some. It's a proverbial "gotcha" and, to them, a way to escape their miserable life by creating another identity with a ready-made shield from criticism. They can deflect anything as a "phobia", and unfortunately the world governments have bought into this shit as well and have codified it into lawl.
Yes! Thank you. Deeply tragic story. I don't know if it correlates to this incident at all but still.
It completely correlates. John Money, the pedophilic jew "doctor" who experimented on and surgically mutilated David, and sexually abused him and his brother, was also the one who coined the modern "interpretation" of gender as a "social construct" that the troons love to flap their cocksuckers about. He's pretty much the father figure of the whole gender ideology concept.
Where was the mass suicide epidemics during the times in history when we simply didn't recognize transgenderism? Why is it that we only see mass suicide epidemics now when we stopped imprisoning people in padded cells for trying to troon out?
Because the simple truth is that it's all a lie. The whole "41%" thing is self-reported, and is essentially an overgrown version of a toddler holding his breath during a tantrum. Their suicide-baiting is just another tactic to try get their way when they're in the wrong.

Nobody who says anything they don't want to hear is a credible source.

We had a case yesterday of a man self-identifying as a transgender and when he was arrested for being a pervert, the trannies on Twitter said "nah he's not trans".
Everyone is welcome in the group until you commit an unforgivable, then you're shunned and dead to us. The detransitioners get heckled, silenced, threatened, denounced as "not really trans" and all sorts of other things. Horror stories from the surgeries and whoremoans are handwaved away as "minor complications" or somehow the fault of the  victim trans person. And the actual worst ones of all, the pooner-shooters and the like are instantly dead-named by all the media outlets, a normally unforgivable "hate crime" literally worse than murder. Unless, of course your actions have portrayed trannies in a bad light, then you're dead-named, your trans-ness is questioned, even by the strongest of "allies", and the most unflattering portrayals of you are sarcastically plastered all over the media sphere.
You know, whenever that Harbinger whatshisname faggot is on here and whining about getting banned off pReddit years ago, and how it's all pozzed leftist trash (admittedly that's all that's ever seen), I'd love for this sequence of screenshots to be brought up to him (?) and anyone else who doubts, just to show how artificial and astroturfed the whole leftist/LGBTQOMGTWTFBBQ+123!/pride/diversity/CurrentThing™️ really are. These tranny-jannies are actively working (for free, ha!) to reinforce a narrative that is so fragile, that it cannot stand up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny. Isn't it "interesting" how the few open comment spaces left on the internet are so heavy-handed with their moderation? And anything the slightest bit controversial is either closed for comments, has a suspiciously curated string of comments that all happen to favor the Popular Thing, or, like pReddit, huge strings of comment chains with [comment deleted]. It really shows how much effort they put into maintaining their agenda, and if you pay even the slightest bit of attention, you notice it almost everywhere.
 
What does this mean for the future? Are we going to wake up from this nightmare soon?
I'm going to copy and paste a comment from Ovarit that's pretty much how I see it. "Here’s how I perceive it, lately:

The Bad- people have built and staked entire careers on trans stuff. Their reputations are also at stake. All those psychologists and doctors and binder and packer-makers will probably never walk it back even with WPATH documents being released, because it would mean admitting to atrocities. I don’t think that the transhausen parents and well-meaning idiot parents will ever recant, either. Who can face that they’ve irreversibly damaged their own child outside of a literal life-or-death situation? The stunning and brave TIPs who have podcasts, YouTube channels, and sometimes the full monty of surgical alterations also have a high sunk-cost. Some may detransition; most will remain staunch long after the extinction burst has lost its steam.

Probably the worst of “the bad” is the stark realization that people care very little about women even if they don’t outright despise us, including other women. This whole mess has exposed the ugly misogyny ingrained in every facet of our culture, confirming that, yes, men’s feelings do matter more than our rights, comfort, and safety.

The Good- More people are getting fatigued by the demands of the genderspecials. The never- ending real-life stroop tests, the sanctimonious purity spirals, the constant name and pronoun changes, the suicide-baiting and guilt-tripping, insulting stereotypes and increasingly visible perversion that is the underbelly of it all. While I wouldn’t call this GOOD, exactly, the increasing support for Trump in the US really demonstrates how out-of-touch the democrats have become. Champagne socialists with luxury beliefs and their condescending attempts to “educate” the filthy rabble are turning working-class Americans very sour on these social issues focused on the special privileges of a few narcissists. Gen Z and Alpha are already moving on past gender feels, considering the whole thing cringe and passé. In response to people being annoyed or losing interests, TRAs open their fat mouths and expose the ugliness of their philosophy mask-off. They’re generally unstable and very poor at critical thinking, making them their own worst enemy in the event of a mass-peaking.
 
How can one continue if this is the future?
Honestly, only way to do is is go "we must fight against the bullshit" and 'keep calm and carry on', so to speak. Of which, the first thing is showing the whole truth like these WPATH files to normal people, so they realized how they were fooled.

Activists and orgs depend on the general masses being either too ignorant, divided or demoralised to fight. So one should keep on going and following truth to go against these people; and always keep in mind that long-term big change is always slow to happen. The Left took more than 30 years to get to the current position and the troon-brigade piggybacked off of them; now the troon-brigade is already losing support and I predict will be absolute pariahs on a level equivalent to pedos. The only problem is it'll take some time for that, so in the mean time, only thing to do is 'keep calm and carry on'.
 
"Waiting seems to increase the risks of suicide attempts."

I'm sorry, call me heartless, but threatening suicide is a manipulation tactic. I'm so sick to death of troons threatening to kill themselves all the time. Maybe it's apathy or empathy exhaustion, but if someone kills themselves because someone didn't let them cut their tits or dick off, they weren't going to function as a living being anyway. Something sooner or later would have made them 41% and most of the time it's after they transition or get surgery. I honestly hope the kids ruined by the troon movement get help, but I understand that it's too late for many of them. At that point, we can only blame the people that pushed them into it.
And you have freaks like Erin Reed chicken littling every fucking opinion or fact that harshes their euphoria. His suggestion that suicide is the only available recourse is probably driving suicidal ideation. Troonrique Nasheed.

It's clear the leaks illustrate in many cases, this is purely cosmetic, and has little to do with dysphoria. The ideal for troons is treatment without question, just wanting should warrant radical physical alteration. "they give hormones to children with precocious puberty"... Troons see no difference between medically necessary and want.
 
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Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't care.

I wad listening to a lecture this morning where doctors had conversations about picking and choosing which characteristics you got for your transition.

Some apparently didn't realize that if you wanted a deeper voice, you couldn't choose whether or not you got facial hair.

That tracks with those kinds of people. They haven't thought through their choices.

It's sort of like the video of that kid who chose two cookies over a stack of money. It's not about reason or good sense, it's about what makes them feel good and damn the consequences.
I think some of them understand the facts on some level, but their magical thinking overwrites it. They are the main character of their anime show or yaoi fan fic. Of course they expect they will get all the good benefits and none of the bad ones because that's how the story is supposed to progress. That's what happens to main characters. They transform into the beautiful anime princess or sexy yaoi prince and live happily ever after against all the odds.
 
How can one continue if this is the future?
It's not the future, it's a loud minority who have the backing of corporations, for now. Even then, with all their backing and reach, if you scroll through the most pozzed places you can imagine, you will still see people typing TTD, using woodchipper memes or waves of removed comments depicting either of the former.

It's all smoke and mirrors.
 
A point in the discussion of "wether people will give a fuck about this long-term", normies noticing / peaking or rather that it will only be taken not of by those already as in the know-

Yes, this stuff will mainly find audience with a gender critical sort of the crowd, preaching to the choir
However
To my mind, this leak and it's content are going to be a most useful and potent weapon against the troons and TRAs themselves.
When they smugly brag on and on about "the science " and "the guidelines", "world recognised ", this is what they are talking about.
Having it widely exposed as a shitshow will really puncture that, for them specifically. Your Tony "Erin" Reeds, "Katy" Montgomery; basically anyone who appeals to authority and postures as some kind of official.

They will be the people most affected and bothered by the stuff here. Which is great.

It will take longer to drip down into corporations, but maybe not. Despite sinking billions into woke suicide signalling, they plow on. However combined with the past years figures to be disseminated soon, this might be a helpful nail in the coffin for that - it's not just socially deeply reviled, it turns out it was built on sand in the first place and is now as plain as the nose on a troons man face.
 
I fear this isn’t going to be the turning point, for the simple reason that we knew all this. We’ve known for years that all this was going on - there are medical professionals proudly proclaiming that they cut underage girls’ tits off, there are endless young troons confirming that they were put on hormones underage. We know what puberty blockers and hormones do, even if we don’t know the long-term effects.

I think the real impact will be more gradual. I believe that as more and more troon kids grow up, problems will surface. Health issues, detransitioners, even a few more mass shooters. That’s when this will come in useful, as a one-stop shop for evidence.
 
A point in the discussion of "wether people will give a fuck about this long-term", normies noticing / peaking or rather that it will only be taken not of by those already as in the know-
I think people need to stop thinking there will be some event that'll end up mass-peaking everyone at once. There won't be. What will happen is that these scandals will happen again and again and eventually we'll be where we're at with lobotomies - ie nobody believes in them, think it's barbaric (and naturally they always thought that way, silly!) and we'll be off onto the next big medical experiment.

Look at it as another chip off the block that keeps decreasing in mass.
 
Lmao we all knew this but it's good that we finally have some peer reviewed document leak to back our claims.


10 years ago they told me that if I really wanted to die on the bigot hill and kill my career, turns out I was right from the start and I am waving a flag from this hill until I die.
 
It's funny that just a decade or so ago, pregnant women were told to not drink decaf coffee due to the chemicals used to make decaf, limit tuna intake, get off as much meds as possible, etc etc and now we have "medical professionals" going against all of that, just so they don't get fired/because they get ass pats online.

COVID made me hate the medical community; the troon push made me wish total death.
They tell you not to even take a hot bath. No drugs unless absolutely needed. And no hot baths. No mildly runny eggs. But no hot baths really struck me as being a bit much. Being too hot can be teratogenic, so a woman with a high fever should try to get that fever down, but ten mins in a warm bath has never been shown to be.
Then… covid. And suddenly pregnant women are being coerced to take two shots of a shot that at the very best gives them a huge raging fever. Twice, two shots. Raging fever. No safety studies.
I think covid and transgenderism have exposed the complete death of evidence based medicine. Both centre around cult like beliefs, clout and the ability to act like a commissar for that delicious dopamine hit of righteousness.
Men lactating (and getting boner drugs while they do and nobody questioning this) the abuse of children, testosterone filled pooners getting pregnant (test is a teratogen too…) it’s all facets of the same sickness. Evidence and morality is out the window. Clout chasing and fetish or ideology is in.
His suggestion that suicide is the only available recourse is probably driving suicidal ideation.
It’s twofold.
1. Threatening suicide is what abusive people do to control others, and
2. It’s a skewing of the risk benefit. Drugs are assessed in risk vs benefit. If a drug is for a mild headache, it’s better be pretty damn safe. If it’s that drug or dying of cancer, you can pass it for use even if it causes awful side effects. By framing it as ‘this or death’ the risk benefit calculation goes to infinity. Any approach is better than death so any approach is ‘needed.’
This is why the idea of ‘life saving care’ is being touted.
 
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