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Well that's because women don't chase & they have a surplus of guys who would want them. Guys don't have that luxury unless they are super attractive or billionaires.
As a woman who has just got off the cock carousel for the specific reason to bless you with my wisdom, I can confirm what you are saying. You are perfectly sight, try to spare people the right of you.

The thought of seeing a weak male as you in my search of a high value alpha male disgusts me. Please only weaken the gene pool if you become a billionaire.
 
Well that's because women don't chase & they have a surplus of guys who would want them. Guys don't have that luxury unless they are super attractive or billionaires.
This is a very bad and wrong take.

I am a woman and I have had crushes on weird/nerdy men all my life. A lot of times woman don’t know how to make the first move, and unfortunately men like that often don’t know how to make the first move either. The difference is all the men I’ve been interested in have been kind and compassionate. The men I’ve liked have been lower in attractiveness, overweight, and weird. The selling point was their interesting and fun personality. It may seem like women are only interested in looks or money, but that’s because the only exposure you get to women is on social media and tinder or secondhand accounts from incel forums. I promise you there are women that would be attracted to you even if you are poor, ugly or weird so long as you have a genuine personality.
 
It may seem like women are only interested in looks or money, but that’s because the only exposure you get to women is on social media and tinder
The women online are real women. It's ridiculous acting like women who act like this are not real and ai generated chat bots or they are from Narnia. These are women on earth who think this, theya re just brave enough to show a woman's true nature of being gold diggers.
 
I'm curious about modern women's views on sex and dating, and I suppose this isn't a horrible place to ask since female Kiwis tend to be refreshingly blunt with their opinions.

I've been out of the dating pool for a while now, so I'm a bit out of touch, but being around other dudes I've noticed a rise in I guess what I'd call a sort of sexual conservatism, that is rejecting not just hookup culture but even casual dating in general, they have a strict list of values they expect out of a partner, that kind of thing. I always thought it was a sort of cope for loneliness, reframing one's isolation as some spartan trial that one endures as a testament to their devotion to their own ideals or whatever. It stems from some good observations, like that empty hedonism and a myopic focus on sex aren't going to lead to real happiness or fulfillment, but a lot of it is just an overcorrection that hurts more than helps.

I'm all used to that, but recently I was surprised to hear women saying similar things about dating, that they don't want to date and would prefer to settle down as quickly as possible. I found it interesting because I always knew women to mostly want more autonomy in a relationship, and that they dated a lot because they were quite careful about who they settled down with, having heard and seen (and on occasion lived through) plenty of horror stories about men who seemed good only to turn out abusive.

Maybe it's just in my head, I'm wondering what the women here make of it. I know a couple women whose dating strategy seems to be "don't date at all and at some point the right man will just show up and we'll get married." There's also women pushing back against this trend of accusing women of being pick-mes for almost anything, and in general the way LGBT groups plant invariably plant their flag firmly inside feminist spaces wherever they're found makes me wonder if that too doesn't have something to do with it. I'd love to hear thoughts.
 
Church is free, maybe you can knock out multiple stones with one rock.
Also of course no woman is going to want you if you find them all to be insufferable gold digging hypergamous whores. Why would they?
You're falling for incel logic. "Women don't flock to me therefore they all must be vain whores." Get real and grow up. Get some interests, go to some community events, go to Church, and grow out of this insufferable woe is me attitude. The World isn't out to get you, the World probably doesn't notice you exist.
If there's one thing that is the biggest turn off for women is a debbie downer who shoots down any solution and just wants to cry. Don't like where you're at? Change it.
 
I'm curious about modern women's views on sex and dating, and I suppose this isn't a horrible place to ask since female Kiwis tend to be refreshingly blunt with their opinions.

I've been out of the dating pool for a while now, so I'm a bit out of touch, but being around other dudes I've noticed a rise in I guess what I'd call a sort of sexual conservatism, that is rejecting not just hookup culture but even casual dating in general, they have a strict list of values they expect out of a partner, that kind of thing. I always thought it was a sort of cope for loneliness, reframing one's isolation as some spartan trial that one endures as a testament to their devotion to their own ideals or whatever. It stems from some good observations, like that empty hedonism and a myopic focus on sex aren't going to lead to real happiness or fulfillment, but a lot of it is just an overcorrection that hurts more than helps.

I'm all used to that, but recently I was surprised to hear women saying similar things about dating, that they don't want to date and would prefer to settle down as quickly as possible. I found it interesting because I always knew women to mostly want more autonomy in a relationship, and that they dated a lot because they were quite careful about who they settled down with, having heard and seen (and on occasion lived through) plenty of horror stories about men who seemed good only to turn out abusive.

Maybe it's just in my head, I'm wondering what the women here make of it. I know a couple women whose dating strategy seems to be "don't date at all and at some point the right man will just show up and we'll get married." There's also women pushing back against this trend of accusing women of being pick-mes for almost anything, and in general the way LGBT groups plant invariably plant their flag firmly inside feminist spaces wherever they're found makes me wonder if that too doesn't have something to do with it. I'd love to hear thoughts.
the only way for a woman to win is to not play. these women that you talk about have gone their own way. They say they want relationship and feign they are having hard life being single but in reality they do that because men will rag on them for daring to be happy without a man . There is no benefit to date a western male to a woman. Tehnically everything should be evenly split realistically though women get fucked by marriage and relationships statistics are showing it married men die richer and live longer and happier similar to forever single women . If someone has to make a sacrifice in the relationship is always the woman if someone gets dropped like a used cumrag due to illness , old age or vibe ( i am not joking ) in LTR is the woman. Women have seen that men have zero loyalty unless society penalizes it hard the statistic are showing it if you dont believe check the old statistic women having cancer vs men having cancer divorce rates this doesnt include cheating, abandonment etc. Go around and ask women who have been with their partner since college but never married what happened to their relationship when their partners income got extremly high count how many got cheated, dumped or fucked over .

Just open any thread about my partner hides debts and count the women vs men partner lying about debt stories in comments, and you will see insane ratio of women getting dicked over by their exes with debts , lies , credit cards in their names.


Western men offer nothing and in return they want everything. They basically replaced by a dog and a dildo . They pull on high standards because they know it wont happen they dont bother to waste time and recourses to date ( btw the average cost to go on a date for woman is insane ) instead they focus on family, career, hobbies and friends . Incels and redpillers gotten what they wanted virginal women who wont fuck anyone ,
 
I'm curious about modern women's views on sex and dating, and I suppose this isn't a horrible place to ask since female Kiwis tend to be refreshingly blunt with their opinions.

I've been out of the dating pool for a while now, so I'm a bit out of touch, but being around other dudes I've noticed a rise in I guess what I'd call a sort of sexual conservatism, that is rejecting not just hookup culture but even casual dating in general, they have a strict list of values they expect out of a partner, that kind of thing. I always thought it was a sort of cope for loneliness, reframing one's isolation as some spartan trial that one endures as a testament to their devotion to their own ideals or whatever. It stems from some good observations, like that empty hedonism and a myopic focus on sex aren't going to lead to real happiness or fulfillment, but a lot of it is just an overcorrection that hurts more than helps.

I'm all used to that, but recently I was surprised to hear women saying similar things about dating, that they don't want to date and would prefer to settle down as quickly as possible. I found it interesting because I always knew women to mostly want more autonomy in a relationship, and that they dated a lot because they were quite careful about who they settled down with, having heard and seen (and on occasion lived through) plenty of horror stories about men who seemed good only to turn out abusive.

Maybe it's just in my head, I'm wondering what the women here make of it. I know a couple women whose dating strategy seems to be "don't date at all and at some point the right man will just show up and we'll get married." There's also women pushing back against this trend of accusing women of being pick-mes for almost anything, and in general the way LGBT groups plant invariably plant their flag firmly inside feminist spaces wherever they're found makes me wonder if that too doesn't have something to do with it. I'd love to hear thoughts.
When I was in the dating pool I only dated for the idea that we would settle down for marriage, each relationship lasted a few years until something would show we were incompatible and then we would move on. I never really saw the point of dating just to date or to have flings but to each their own.
I'm married with children with the majority of my friends in committed relationships so I don't really have a good window into the modern dating world outside of social media.
 
being around other dudes I've noticed a rise in I guess what I'd call a sort of sexual conservatism, that is rejecting not just hookup culture but even casual dating in general, they have a strict list of values they expect out of a partner, that kind of thing.
Lmfao, what? The vast majority of users of hook-up apps are male. Trust men have not suddenly raised their standards. Men are dating less because of the rise of social isolation and pornography use to replace intimacy.

I always thought it was a sort of cope for loneliness, reframing one's isolation as some spartan trial that one endures as a testament to their devotion to their own ideals or whatever.
Correct.

I was surprised to hear women saying similar things about dating, that they don't want to date and would prefer to settle down as quickly as possible.
Women express less desire than ever to get married or even date men at all.

Maybe it's just in my head
Yeah.
 
I'm curious about modern women's views on sex and dating, and I suppose this isn't a horrible place to ask since female Kiwis tend to be refreshingly blunt with their opinions.

I've been out of the dating pool for a while now, so I'm a bit out of touch, but being around other dudes I've noticed a rise in I guess what I'd call a sort of sexual conservatism, that is rejecting not just hookup culture but even casual dating in general, they have a strict list of values they expect out of a partner, that kind of thing. I always thought it was a sort of cope for loneliness, reframing one's isolation as some spartan trial that one endures as a testament to their devotion to their own ideals or whatever. It stems from some good observations, like that empty hedonism and a myopic focus on sex aren't going to lead to real happiness or fulfillment, but a lot of it is just an overcorrection that hurts more than helps.

I'm all used to that, but recently I was surprised to hear women saying similar things about dating, that they don't want to date and would prefer to settle down as quickly as possible. I found it interesting because I always knew women to mostly want more autonomy in a relationship, and that they dated a lot because they were quite careful about who they settled down with, having heard and seen (and on occasion lived through) plenty of horror stories about men who seemed good only to turn out abusive.

Maybe it's just in my head, I'm wondering what the women here make of it. I know a couple women whose dating strategy seems to be "don't date at all and at some point the right man will just show up and we'll get married." There's also women pushing back against this trend of accusing women of being pick-mes for almost anything, and in general the way LGBT groups plant invariably plant their flag firmly inside feminist spaces wherever they're found makes me wonder if that too doesn't have something to do with it. I'd love to hear thoughts.
So to add to @MasterBaiter's excellent comments above, I'm linking to a post by Zawn Villines. She writes a lot about domestic labour inequality, which is a) something men laugh at and hugely mock and b) are genuinely astounded when it comes up in every single divorce, ever. If one plans to be a husband and certainly if one plans to add kids to that, it is crucially important to understand how fast and how severely it will piss off the bangmaid mommy to be treated like a bangmaid mommy. This, bros, is how the walkaway wife which terrorises MRA forums is born.

I recommend her blog and Liberating Motherhood. I also recommend her paid content if you have a hookup for that.

But this particular post is about how straight marriage, for women, is ass, and why women increasingly just don't want to do it.

 
And women are insufferable gold digging hypergamous whores. Two things can be right at once.
It's obvious you already know all the answers, so its time to accept the fact that you were put on this Earth too early. Your unhappiness stems from the fact that youre a superior being who can see through all the bullshit into the very heart of Man.

Best of luck.
 
I'm curious about modern women's views on sex and dating, and I suppose this isn't a horrible place to ask since female Kiwis tend to be refreshingly blunt with their opinions.

I've been out of the dating pool for a while now, so I'm a bit out of touch, but being around other dudes I've noticed a rise in I guess what I'd call a sort of sexual conservatism, that is rejecting not just hookup culture but even casual dating in general, they have a strict list of values they expect out of a partner, that kind of thing. I always thought it was a sort of cope for loneliness, reframing one's isolation as some spartan trial that one endures as a testament to their devotion to their own ideals or whatever. It stems from some good observations, like that empty hedonism and a myopic focus on sex aren't going to lead to real happiness or fulfillment, but a lot of it is just an overcorrection that hurts more than helps.

I'm all used to that, but recently I was surprised to hear women saying similar things about dating, that they don't want to date and would prefer to settle down as quickly as possible. I found it interesting because I always knew women to mostly want more autonomy in a relationship, and that they dated a lot because they were quite careful about who they settled down with, having heard and seen (and on occasion lived through) plenty of horror stories about men who seemed good only to turn out abusive.

Maybe it's just in my head, I'm wondering what the women here make of it. I know a couple women whose dating strategy seems to be "don't date at all and at some point the right man will just show up and we'll get married." There's also women pushing back against this trend of accusing women of being pick-mes for almost anything, and in general the way LGBT groups plant invariably plant their flag firmly inside feminist spaces wherever they're found makes me wonder if that too doesn't have something to do with it. I'd love to hear thoughts.
Personally, I am really tired of people determining that "west has fallen" or whatever bullshit because they seen a random woman they will never ever interact on a dating app, I am also tired of people deliberately trying to find human dumpster fires on dating apps (which are just upgraded trashier dating websites from 2000s) to validate their opinion on current dating scene, it's like purposefully going to an area in a town full of junkies that are trying to kill you and saying "Wow this society is full of junkies that are trying to kill me" while ignoring the beautiful neighborhoods that everybody is putting effort into maintaining and other maintained areas around you.

Wow, you're telling me a dating app for straight people that was modeled after a hookup app for gay people will be full of weird degenerate dumpster fires? No shit.
 
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