Trashfire WPATH Medical Documents Leak

Not defending troonery, but the murder-talk isn't helpful
My take on this is that rage is good for rallying, but not for confronting the individuals responsible. Get angry, this IS anger inducing, but don't forget, many of these people do indeed believe they're doing the right thing despite all of the evidence. People really are that dumb, that just goes to show we're human.
 
My take on this is that rage is good for rallying, but not for confronting the individuals responsible. Get angry, this IS anger inducing, but don't forget, many of these people do indeed believe they're doing the right thing despite all of the evidence. People really are that dumb, that just goes to show we're human.
I’m sure having a rational conversation with troons will work out just fine. Clearly if we just have a civil discussion they will see the error of their ways and stop ruining society
 
"Waiting seems to increase the risks of suicide attempts."

I'm sorry, call me heartless, but threatening suicide is a manipulation tactic. I'm so sick to death of troons threatening to kill themselves all the time. Maybe it's apathy or empathy exhaustion, but if someone kills themselves because someone didn't let them cut their tits or dick off, they weren't going to function as a living being anyway. Something sooner or later would have made them 41% and most of the time it's after they transition or get surgery. I honestly hope the kids ruined by the troon movement get help, but I understand that it's too late for many of them. At that point, we can only blame the people that pushed them into it.
They blame the high suicide rates on society even after getting surgery.They complain about how them getting misgendered is enough to cause them to have suicidal thoughts.Hell I even saw them complain about how nobody wanting to date them has made them suicidal.Its not society fucking job to cater to these people otherwise they threaten to off themselves.I've never seen a movement that heavily encouraged suicide to get what they want.Hell I had one of these people really claim that they have it worse than black people during slavery.That's how much of an ego these people have.
 
Vanessa Urquhart, having allegedly pored over hundreds of pages under the microscope, declares the leak is no big deal, because WPATH membership is just like Something Awful: everyone can pay to join (archive).
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And this person believes that fash legislators, such as Mike Johnson, have infiltrated WPATH forums.
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Vanessa Urquhart, having allegedly poured over hundreds of pages under the microscope, declares the leak is no big deal, because WPATH membership is just like Something Awful: everyone can pay to join (archive).
They don't even understand how disgusted normal people are by things like this. They think everyone's a totally rank degenerate like they are.
 
I volunteered at mental health crisis house for people who where recovering often from a suicide attempt.

The first time I heard a gender therapist being interviewed say

"do you want a alive son or dead daughter"

I both wanted to punched them and was so shocked, it totally goes against everything we know about suicide. They where setting these kids up to use suicide as a manipulation tactic, and yet it repeated again and again.

This area of mental health time and time again just goes against the establish rules because they don't get the activists what they want

They make it seem like death is the ultimate outcome. It puts the idea in these kids heads that if they don't get their way, the only option is kill themselves. There's no 'Hey, maybe wait until your brain is fully developed before you make permanent and irreversible decisions about your body. There may be other options, such as prosthetics or trauma therapy, that you can explore first." It's "You WILL die unless they let you ruin your bones with drugs and castrate you." There is no middle ground. There is no efforts for caution or thought. It's either you cut your dick off or you will be so miserable that you will kill yourself. Like you mentioned, they tell this shit to parents. Your kids will kill themselves if you don't let doctors mutilate them, and it will all be your fault. You killed your child, not the agony from SRS, not being constantly clocked by people who think they are weird, not the poor decisions crashing down on them once they realize they'll never have children or live a day without pain, it's you and you alone who killed your poor innocent child. It's sickening the way they set people up for failure, and then wonder why the suicide rates only increase after SRS and transitioning.

I am utterly convinced that this is a death cult. You have 'middle' members who haven't killed themselves yet but are still young enough to guzzle the flavor-aide that recruit children into the cult. These middle members eventually become elder members, who realize they ruined their own lives, who then kill themselves rather than admit they were wrong. The children become the new middle members, who then start the cycle again. It never ends. It's just death and agony all the way down. I will always have an ounce of sympathy for people who were mislead into the cult and now suffer for it, but I have no sympathy for those who ruined other's lives and then take the easy way out rather than face what they did.

Here's a funny trick! If a troon you know IRL threatens suicide, get them committed! I guarantee they'll stop using suicide as a threat once they spend a few days in an involuntary hold in an understaffed, poorly funded, and stuffed to the gills mental hospital. And the funny thing is, you can say that you feared for their lives and did the responsible thing by getting mental health care professionals involved. In a way, you validated them <3
 
Vanessa Urquhart, having allegedly poured over hundreds of pages under the microscope, declares the leak is no big deal, because WPATH membership is just like Something Awful: everyone can pay to join (archive).
So either WPATH is an official organization and these leaks are damning or WPATH is not an official organization , any one can join, and should not be any sort of authority on gender care whatsoever. So either way this is a complete disaster. Got it.
 
Not defending troonery, but the murder-talk isn't helpful. You're being goaded into a controlled dialectic by whoever wants their to be tension between LGBT and some other group (probably Christians). Your life and the world will get better if you stop getting MATI and start cleaning your room.
You think these things comprehend reason and morality? The troon will always double down on their delusions even if God Himself told them the truth.

It's the retarded boomercon, "At least we'll lose with honor!" bullshit that allowed this to propagate.
I honestly think boomercons are worse than troons. The troon is honest about despising you and everything you hold dear.
 
I knew someone who killed themselves and I find the framing around this terrible. If someone is going to commit suicide there's not much you can do to stop it and obviously not everyone with gender dysphoria is going to kill themselves without care. Depression and idealation isn't the same as being suicidal.
 
"AGPs? Why they don't exist goyam, it was debooooooooooooonked, let him creep on minors and into womens restrooms immediately!"

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It reads just like a r*ddit thread, down to the wording and argumentation. Holy shit. All it's missing is OP getting banned/losing his license for not being on top of the latest Purity Spiral trends. I almost can't believe these people exist.
 
Is the troon death cult finally dying off for good? I've been seeing non-stop MASS botting on Twitter especially ever since all these medical scandals & tranny related pedo heinous rape crimes on the news kept coming out. It's like they know they don't have the general public's support on their side anymore, so they're trying really hard by any means necessary to gaslight all of us into thinking they have the numerical upper hand.

I'm confident that all these sordid articles and leaked WPATH documents will help dissolve this trannymania even further. The only way out of this plague? Hunt down and punish every last one of these sociopathic butchers, enablers & sycophants.
 
I browsed Reddit to see what the normies are saying. Turns out the normies are saying nothing. I don't know if people are posting about the leak and the troon mods are deleting them posthaste, or if it's even worse and nobody is posting at all.

Insert tinfoil hat closeup: it is very troubling to realize how just tight information control is for normies. You CAN still find all sorts of information out there, even on Reddit, but you have to start by getting hold of one end of a thread that leads you to the fringe zone where people are talking about the forbidden topic, in this case the troon menace. You have to know what you're looking for to even start finding anything on it. And, worse, it isn't just that a place like Reddit is very effective at controlling what you can see if you're a basic user, it's also that Reddit surrounds you with voices that all lean in one direction. More and more, I believe that humans are herd animals. We're always looking around to see what the other monkeys think is okay. On a place like Reddit, it sure looks like all of the monkeys think that trains are stunning and brave. The more you are online, the more easily your opinions about what the dominant norm is can be nudged. I find this to have genuinely alarming and dystopian implications.

Some guerrilla terves and/or right wing doods could likely spread this information by bypassing the big tech firewall and taking a very low-tech approach. Print up stickers with screenshots of some of the stuff from these leaks or literally any post from any coomer troon anywhere and slap 'em on bathroom walls. I still think normies would be disturbed by this stuff, if they could see it.

Anyway, here's the few Redditors talking about the WPATH leak, with archives. I think I caught all the conversations with a decent number of comments.

The libertarian one was downvoted to zero. Not very freedom of them.

StupidPol are like if socialist bros took over the Farms. Blocked and Reported is a podcast hosted by a canceled lesbian and Jesse "Genocide" Singal that is mildly critical of trans issues. I don't believe that r/BlockedandReported is primarily frequented by podcast fans or StupidPol are all actual socialists, I think it's just the information control problem, where you aren't allowed to talk about these things anywhere but Kiwi Farms, a couple of corners of reddit, and the comments of certain youtube videos. Pretty crazy when you think about it? The ability to discuss a massive cultural issue has been driven virtually totally underground. Millions and millions of people in the West have strong opinions against this stuff (polling tells us that this stuff is not as popular as the system wants you to assume) but you can't talk about it unless you're a weirdo who hangs out in weird spaces.

r/BlockedandReported: The WPATH Files (archive)
r/StupidPol: Leaked Discussions Reveal Uncertainty about Transgender Care (archive)
r/Conspiracy: But I was reliably informed that puberty blockers and hormone therapy are completely safe and reversible… (archive)
r/Detrans: The WPATH Files (archive)
r/LibertarianUncensored: The WPATH Files (archive)
r/Destiny: "Can someone please go through this and tell me it’s bunk or something? Two of my closest friends are conspiracy brained, and they’ve now latched on to this." (tiny discussion but I found the whining funny. archive)
 
This person appears to be rearing up to publish a full debunking of this piece. I am always willing to change views if shown clearly that I was wrong, so I am eager to see whether this will actually change my mind with real evidence or just be more "this is out of context to make us look bad" "here's a study that said transitioning actually prevents suicide" "AGP isn't real," and "this is a good thing, actually." Someone should make a bingo board!
You're not going to get real evidence or answers, you're going to get manipulations, gas lighting, character assassinations, accusations and lies.
 
This person appears to be rearing up to publish a full debunking of this piece. I am always willing to change views if shown clearly that I was wrong, so I am eager to see whether this will actually change my mind with real evidence or just be more "this is out of context to make us look bad" "here's a study that said transitioning actually prevents suicide" "AGP isn't real," and "this is a good thing, actually." Someone should make a bingo board!

Tony is a proper lolcow with a 600+ page thread. You're not going to get a substantial debunking from him .
 
I’m sure having a rational conversation with troons will work out just fine. Clearly if we just have a civil discussion they will see the error of their ways and stop ruining society
It's the retarded boomercon, "At least we'll lose with honor!" bullshit that allowed this to propagate.
It would be even better after everyone enabling the Mengele-esque mutilation of children faced the wall.
Does "clean your room" sound like "talk to troon"? I'm trying to say that violence against LGBT is what the media (or whoever?) wants. The pendulum swinging back is the rallying cry for all the useful idiots on our side to act in exactly the way the media wants them to. It is a desired reaction. Dispelling LGBT doesn't require violence, and our time is better spent working locally instead of waiting for the first brick to be thrown like cowards.

You think these things comprehend reason and morality? The troon will always double down on their delusions even if God Himself told them the truth.
They share the same worldview with most Americans, of personal liberty and pursuit of happiness, taken to an end that is extreme but coherent. We've been lied to and have all been worshipping the wrong gods.
 
Is the troon death cult finally dying off for good? I've been seeing non-stop MASS botting on Twitter especially ever since all these medical scandals & tranny related pedo heinous rape crimes on the news kept coming out. It's like they know they don't have the general public's support on their side anymore, so they're trying really hard by any means necessary to gaslight all of us into thinking they have the numerical upper hand.

I'm confident that all these sordid articles and leaked WPATH documents will help dissolve this trannymania even further. The only way out of this plague? Hunt down and punish every last one of these sociopathic butchers, enablers & sycophants.
I keep telling the doomers it will be just like lobotomies, literally someone walked onstage with a kid they lobotomized at some convention, a switch flipped, and the trend died almost immediately. The doctors responsible had to basically get escorted out.

It might not go that same way, but I think the women who were too embittered, lesbian, or autistic to keep their mouths shut in the face of the trans menace finally got their orders to move in and do what a million YWNBAW memes couldn't.

Regardless, it was only a matter of time. Women literally clutch a dull piece of metal walking to their cars out of the fear that some dude will jump them. A 6 foot 2 dude in the bathroom with an erection was never going to fucking fly.
 
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