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[Atypical Dog]

I don't think anti-car urbanists really see anything from an economic perspective.

>Cities subsidize the suburbs! Tear down the highways and keep those suburban parasites out!
<Remote work becomes a thing thanks to covid lockdowns and suburbanites stay in their suburbs
<Businesses in the city go under as they have fewer customers
<Commercial real estate declines in value as employers need less of it, threatening real estate developers, landlords, and banks
<City loses tax revenue and is forced to raise taxes on residents and cut services
>Come back suburbanites! Return to office is mandatory!
>Cities subsidize the suburbs! Tear down the highways and keep those suburban parasites out!

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"Cities bring more value than carbrains ever could. Of course it was worth it." - Urbanists.

 

[BulkForceFive]

Personal jetpacks will never be sold to the public, or at least they will until regulators realize any sociopathic jackass can ruin the fun for the rest of us by dropping bowling balls onto pedestrians below or some retarded teenager dies flying into a bridge. Even in construction companies they would be regulated beyond use due to OSHA bullshit.

Personal jetpacks are never really going to be sold at all, in any appreciable numbers, because they're wildly impractical for anything except thirty seconds of goofing off at a time. You have this positive feedback loop of more fuel - more weight- bigger engines-more fuel as you try to boost the endurance, and there really isn't a revolution in power that will get around this. Same sort of thing with flying cars.

 

[The Hardest R]

I don't think anti-car urbanists really see anything from an economic perspective.

Many claim to but basically have to remove a shitload of factors to make their arguments work. Kind of like how inflation isn’t an issue so long as you remove things like food, fuel, college tuition, housing prices, etc.

I remember once an article saying that converting from fossil fuels to renewable energy in Bri’ain is less cost than a latte per Brit. Of course as we see with the energy crises and wildly fluctuating cost of energy, partially switching to renewables is a hell of a lot more than the cost of a latte but that doesn’t matter when you lie constantly.

They like to claim economic arguments, like not owning a $30k car increases muh equity but moving from your $1,500/month mortgage to a $3,000/month cramped shitbox in a megalopolis never seems to get factored in. Some redditors will go straight for the moral arguments but as (((the powers that be))) keep advocating for 15 minute cities, there will be a slew of articles and studies that claim it’s more cost effective to live in tiny pods that will exclusively use selective economics to make their case.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

In related news cereal is a soup

If soups can be cold, cereal is soup. Simple as.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Modern day jets are so reliable due to very strict maintenance schedules and inspections. Do you think Tyrone is gonna get bearings replaced on time or buy some RIMZ NIGGUH?

Another good point. Jets need hours and hours of maintenance after each flight. A car needs a oil change after 5000 miles, which is months. Again, reliability and simplicity would both have to improve massively.

It's already regulated to death.

That's the thing, it could easily get worse. I do like the points you brought up, didn't know that Ultralights didn't need a license.

 

[msd]

It always boggles the mind when these people bring up heat.

"You don't need a car! Just brave the 115F texas heat!"

Listen, I walk, I'm pretty country side, I don't have a car, and walking in the blistering heat erodes the soul and kills bottles of water.

Also it melted some of my shoes

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

It always boggles the mind when these people bring up heat.

"You don't need a car! Just brave the 115F texas heat!"

Listen, I walk, I'm pretty country side, I don't have a car, and walking in the blistering heat erodes the soul and kills bottles of water.

Also it melted some of my shoes

As a wise man once said...
"It's not even hot outside"

 

[quaawaa]

It always boggles the mind when these people bring up heat.

"You don't need a car! Just brave the 115F texas heat!"

Listen, I walk, I'm pretty country side, I don't have a car, and walking in the blistering heat erodes the soul and kills bottles of water.

Also it melted some of my shoes

On every post about the heat, you'll have someone claiming that southern European cities get just as hot as southern American cities and if the Europeans can walk in the heat, then the Americans can as well.

That obviously isn't true:



They also forget that outside of the historic city centers, a lot of the Mediterranean coast looks like Los Angeles with tons of single family houses built into the hills.

Random Example from the coast of France:

The people who live there definitely don't own cars.

 

[msd]

On every post about the heat, you'll have someone claiming that southern European cities get just as hot as southern American cities and if the Europeans can walk in the heat, then the Americans can as well.

That obviously isn't true:
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They also forget that outside of the historic city centers, a lot of the Mediterranean coast looks like Los Angeles with tons of single family houses built into the hills.

Random Example from the coast of France:
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The people who live there definitely don't own cars.

If your electronic billboards don't flash warnings about the heat, then maybe it's not that hot where you are.

I remember when I was smaller, and watching PBS, every like 15 minutes there would be a PSA or an alert about heat stroke and the heatwave houston went theough.

 

[WelperHelper99]

If your electronic billboards don't flash warnings about the heat, then maybe it's not that hot where you are.

I remember when I was smaller, and watching PBS, every like 15 minutes there would be a PSA or an alert about heat stroke and the heatwave houston went theough.

In the summer we sometimes get heat warnings here in Utah. In fact it was so dry for years that camp fires were banned.

 

[msd]

In the summer we sometimes get heat warnings here in Utah. In fact it was so dry for years that camp fires were banned.

Then you know my pain of being excited to pop fireworks during a texas summer, only for a town wide notice to go out saying fireworks are banned

 

[WelperHelper99]

Then you know my pain of being excited to pop fireworks during a texas summer, only for a town wide notice to go out saying fireworks are banned

Tell me about it. They aren't even screwing with you either, when it gets dry here, wildfires will start from something as small as a cigarette butt.

 

[msd]

Tell me about it. They aren't even screwing with you either, when it gets dry here, wildfires will start from something as small as a cigarette butt.

But yeah back on topic, these urbanist retards tend to come to small towns like mine and ruin shit.

There's so much fucking litter now.

Two days ago I found a fucking chip bag thrown into a wild flower patch, these cunts don't care about anything but themselves

 

[WelperHelper99]

But yeah back on topic, these urbanist retards tend to come to small towns like mine and ruin shit.

There's so much fucking litter now.

Two days ago I found a fucking chip bag thrown into a wild flower patch, these cunts don't care about anything but themselves

Litter is a actual problem. That actually affects the environment unlike car exhaust. It's not hard to solve either, just throw your trash in the can. Urbanists don't because they have no respect for the land, it's to be consumed and drained dry.

 

[quaawaa]

/r/fuckcars is mad that San Francisco voters gave police powers to chase criminals again:

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Here's the official description of Measure E:

The Way It Is Now:

The Police Commission (Commission) oversees and adopts policies for the San Francisco Police Department (SFPD). The Chief of Police manages the SFPD’s day-to-day operations. The Board of Supervisors (Board) may also adopt policies for the SFPD, by a majority vote.

A policy adopted by the Commission or the Board outlines and limits how police officers conduct law enforcement duties.

Under the Commission’s use-of-force policy, officers must prepare a written report when they use a firearm, point a firearm at a person, force a resisting suspect into handcuffs, or use force likely to cause physical pain or injury. Officers must also record their use of force using body-worn cameras.

Under the Commission’s vehicle-pursuit policy, an officer may use a vehicle to pursue a person fleeing in a vehicle only when the officer suspects the person committed a violent felony or when the officer believes the person poses an immediate risk to public safety.

The Board has adopted a policy governing the acquisition and use of surveillance technology by the SFPD and other City departments. The City may install public surveillance cameras on streets, sidewalks and common areas of public housing upon approval of the Commission if it finds there is substantial crime occurring at the location.

Before the SFPD can use or acquire a new surveillance technology, the Board must approve its use. The SFPD may not use facial recognition technology except in limited circumstances.

The Proposal:

Proposition E is an ordinance that would make these changes:

• Before the Commission changes SFPD policy, there would be a 90-day period for the SFPD to hold one community meeting at each district police station to solicit feedback. The Chief of Police could waive this process.
• The Commission and the SFPD would have to reduce recordkeeping and reporting to the extent allowed by law, with the goal that patrol officers spend no more than 20% of their work time on administrative tasks.
• Written use-of-force reports would be required only if the officer’s use of force physically injured a person or if the officer used a firearm or pointed it at a person. In other use-of-force cases, the incident could be reported by body- worn cameras.
• A vehicle pursuit would be allowed when an officer has reasonable suspicion that a person committed, is committing or is likely to commit a felony or violent misdemeanor.
• The Commission has until October 1, 2024, to adopt new policies consistent with this measure.
• The SFPD could use drones for vehicle pursuits and active criminal investigations.
• With the intent to improve public safety, the Chief of Police could authorize installing public surveillance cameras, without Commission approval, after holding a community meeting.
• Drones and public surveillance cameras installed under these rules could include facial recognition technology and would not require Board approval. The SFPD could use other surveillance technology if it submits the policy to the Board within one year. The Board could disapprove this policy.
• Until January 1, 2027, any changes to this new ordinance must be approved by a supermajority of the Board. After that date, the changes could be approved by a majority of the Board.

A "YES" Vote Means: If you vote "yes," you want to:

• Allow the SFPD to conduct community meetings before the Commission can change SFPD policies;
• Require the Commission and the SFPD to reduce recordkeeping and reporting for officers;
• Set new policies regarding use-of-force reporting and vehicle pursuit by SFPD officers and allow the Commission to modify other policies;
• Authorize the SFPD to use drones and install surveillance cameras without Commission or Board approval, including those with facial recognition technology; and
• Authorize the SFPD to use new surveillance technology unless the Board disapproves.

A "NO" Vote Means: If you vote "no," you do not want to make these changes.

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Crime is because they didn't build enough apartments:

OP wonders why police patrol in areas where the criminals are:

Punishing criminals doesn't stop crime:

OP doesn't want the police to chase criminals in because driving a car fast is dangerous:


The police are going to kill people by chasing criminals (bonus: SF actually doesn't have much crime):

Police have a "License to Kill":

Pure stupidity:

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OP is mad that he can't think of a good comeback when people tell him to wear a helmet:




Citing non-normalized data:

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[sum ting wong]

Police have a "License to Kill":

Police in the US are not allowed to be punished for killing people in their line of duty, even if it is accidental. Thus, any expansion to their "line of duty" means there are more cases where they are legally allowed to kill us

Was this guy born yesterday? The whole country imploded over fentanyl Floyd and I'm pretty sure Chauvin was stabbed in prison.

 

[Corpun]

On every post about the heat, you'll have someone claiming that southern European cities get just as hot as southern American cities and if the Europeans can walk in the heat, then the Americans can as well.

That obviously isn't true:
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They also forget that outside of the historic city centers, a lot of the Mediterranean coast looks like Los Angeles with tons of single family houses built into the hills.

Random Example from the coast of France:
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The people who live there definitely don't own cars.

More delusional is when they blame the intense heat on urban infrastructure. Yes, parking lots are heat magnents, but not in any major way. Removing major roads and parking lots from Southwestern American cities isn't going to make these places any cooler because these cities are built in a massive fucking desert region. You go to the middle of the Sudan or some undeveloped shithole in that part of Africa and you will see the same temperatures, shit, even some Caribbean islands get pretty fucking hot from what I hear.

But yeah back on topic, these urbanist retards tend to come to small towns like mine and ruin shit.

There's so much fucking litter now.

Two days ago I found a fucking chip bag thrown into a wild flower patch, these cunts don't care about anything but themselves

I was hiking by a river some weeks back, so much fucking trash along the bank. This wasn't even a public walking path, it was along private rail-lines that I'm pretty sure aren't even in use anymore. If urbanists and ecofags really cared about the environment they'd be picking up all the fucking trash and throwing it out into the dump and not making these messes on their own.

 

[anklyscr]

>you don’t solve crime rates with enforcement

That’s so spectacularly retarded I don’t even know how to respond

 

[LaxerBRO]

OP wonders why police patrol in areas where the criminals are:

I know these are the steps in case a person is having a heart attack but using an AED doesn't solve the issue of heart disease.

I think we need to talk to the person on the ground about a healthier diet, regular exercise, taking medication, and regular doctor visits. Perhaps we should build more supermarkets in their area and have cooking classes at the community center.

Punishing criminals doesn't stop crime:

Journalists and other undesirables being alive disprove this point.

If punishments do not stop crime, then make murder a crime punishable by a weekend in jail.

Being charitable, there is a break even point where if you make X crime punishable by 50 years in jail vs 20 there is little benefit given the already severe consequences.

OP doesn't want the police to chase criminals in because driving a car fast is dangerous:

Sure, but that creates an incentive to go fast so they are not caught.

As to root cause mitigation, that requires some difficult conversations about Black culture. Furthermore, if we believe progressive talking points then much of the shoplifting is coming from middle class women, the Biblical story of Saint Augustine and the Pear Tree.

 

[Bonesjones]

I wonder what the response to NYC needing the national guard to patrol the subway will be. Sure is safe and effective that mass transit.

Also living in a southern city, for more than half the year the heat index is so high, you can only do manual labor in 10 to 15 minute spurts because not only is it incredibly hot, the humidity is so bad your sweat cannot evaporate. You will literally cook yourself to death with mild exertion for most of the day.