The American Child Torture Industry: Cons and Cults Disguised as Schools - Because Discord and Roblox aren't bad enough.

[Kari Kamiya]

Now I got a question. How do these places get advertised and get "recruiters"/"students", exactly? They get registered as schools, so is it as simple as looking up schools in your district, or do they hand out pamphlets in neighborhoods or job fairs and such? Do they have paid advertisements for commercials, or billboards, do they host performing arts on a "campus"? I'm curious if this gets them confused for military schools or such, like if the military school in one (or all?) of the Sims games if you have a family is in actuality one of these kinds of places. I take it every state has one of these?

 

[doodoocaca]

Now I got a question. How do these places get advertised and get "recruiters"/"students", exactly?

EdCons, aka educational consultants. They are ultimately just cons.

They can be former program staff, randos who bump into someone, or even in the case of Sue Scheff, another cunthag from hell, a program parent. Encyclopedia Dramatica has a funny old writeup about that cunt (with broken links because this has gone on for so long!)

Basically, they get paid per kid referred to a program, often a month of tuition, which means only a few kids a month makes you a pretty high earner. In Sue-Sue's case, she got fucking rich sending kids off. In the case of WWASPS, the MLM aspect was central: program parents were given free months per kid referred, and once they had a free program for their own child, they were paid out cash per referred child.

WWASPS v SCHEFF is a fun deep dive but I'm not fucking with Utah's records when it's all in memory so just take it at face value or go dig yourself.

The way marketing works is word of mouth, and shitty websites where someone just catches "help my kid" or "troubled teen" or whatever and has a personal number to answer to start manipulating and bullshitting.

They do not advertise or hand shit out in normal ways. Also, these places are not military schools. Schools to make Johnny into a little Lieutenant aren't the same as this shit, but yes many of them can be abusive.

Edit. FUCK YOU, Sue. Discovery from long ago means everyone knows you had to go munchie-mom when Ashlyn couldn't go to the Olympics for you after that injury, so you had to play "mom of a tRoubled TeEn" because your particular swamp in Florida is a cess pool with dramatic extra retarded dipshits. You're also somehow a faggot despite being a woman.

 

[Android raptor]

Well, per their own admission, the helpline will instruct Bishops to sweep it up if anyone involved in the troubled teen industry confides abuse during Mormon confessional.

Honestly, I disagree with the janny’s decision to break out both threads. These two issues are fundamentally joined at the hip.

There's no way Mormon leadership doesn't know about this shit at least. I think the janny just moved it b/c they get spammed with reports anytime I post anything that suggests any member of any brand of Christianity isn't a pure innocent angel.

Unfortunately given how much power and money the Mormon church leadership has, I doubt we'll know anything about what they know about the TTI any time soon.

 

[High Level Rad Waste]

The one I went to actually had some solid ideas - they had dieticians and nutritional education. However, I was so tired from exercising all day, I took the one-on-one dietician opportunity to take a nap. I knew a lot of the stuff they taught us in the general nutrition classes, though.

The thing that pisses me off about the idea of fat camp is the unfairness of it all. Kids don't have control over what they're fed or what comes home from the grocery store. When I was a kid, it was rude to not clear the plate too, so you'd get forced to finish your food past the point of being done with every meal. If I had helicopter parents that didn't let me live outside, I'd have been a fat kid too. It seems like it was a generation of shitty parents that lived through the tail end of the depression when they were kids and assumed that was just a normal way to handle food. They forgot the days of skipped meals and poverty portions, got angry their kids were getting fat, so they sent them off to fat camp.

 

[Super Guido]

The thing that pisses me off about the idea of fat camp is the unfairness of it all. Kids don't have control over what they're fed or what comes home from the grocery store. When I was a kid, it was rude to not clear the plate too, so you'd get forced to finish your food past the point of being done with every meal. If I had helicopter parents that didn't let me live outside, I'd have been a fat kid too. It seems like it was a generation of shitty parents that lived through the tail end of the depression when they were kids and assumed that was just a normal way to handle food. They forgot the days of skipped meals and poverty portions, got angry their kids were getting fat, so they sent them off to fat camp.

Sometimes. My mom is a binge eater, so I didn't really learn healthy habits. I dealt with a kid who tried to enforce the "can't leave the table until you finish your food" when I was in elementary school, though. Joke was on her - I sat there the whole time with boiled green beans I refused to eat.

Risperdal also made me gain a shit ton of weight that I never lost since again, bad eating habits to start with. Why we're giving 12 year olds (22 years ago) fucking risperdal is beyond me. At least now they also give them metformin to mitigate some of the effects; that wasn't the case when I was taking it. My autism wasn't bad enough to warrant an antipsychotic like that - it was largely related to bullying and harassment rather than actually being a difficult autistic kid.

 

[doodoocaca]

Imagine if kids were allowed to do sports or lift, safely, or something. Something they'd enjoy that might really enrich them instead of punishment so they get complexes.

If I didn't have martial arts and gym access I would probably lose my mind. My demons need to be very frequently beat into a paste.

 

[AnOminous]

There's no way Mormon leadership doesn't know about this shit at least. I think the janny just moved it b/c they get spammed with reports anytime I post anything that suggests any member of any brand of Christianity isn't a pure innocent angel.

More like every single fucking post you make about it is absolutely spastic reddit autism and you sound like an A&N'er raving about Jews.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Sometimes. My mom is a binge eater, so I didn't really learn healthy habits. I dealt with a kid who tried to enforce the "can't leave the table until you finish your food" when I was in elementary school, though. Joke was on her - I sat there the whole time with boiled green beans I refused to eat.

Risperdal also made me gain a shit ton of weight that I never lost since again, bad eating habits to start with. Why we're giving 12 year olds (22 years ago) fucking risperdal is beyond me. At least now they also give them metformin to mitigate some of the effects; that wasn't the case when I was taking it. My autism wasn't bad enough to warrant an antipsychotic like that - it was largely related to bullying and harassment rather than actually being a difficult autistic kid.

I have good news for you. We're now giving slightly spergy three year olds risperdal. Progress!

 

[doodoocaca]

Why is RISPERDAL being thrown around so much? I remember that being pushed on a lot of people in the 90s, and that almost included me.

 

[Super Guido]

Why is RISPERDAL being thrown around so much? I remember that being pushed on a lot of people in the 90s, and that almost included me.

Psychiatrists that dont give a shit about kids or the obesity epidemic. They just want a quick way to make lil spergs into zombies even when they're not schizos.

I feel like there's a difference between the retard that even his parents are afraid of and the autist that yells at people for trying to instigate him.

 

[doodoocaca]

Can the USA go a fucking day without shoving pills, scalpels, needles, or worse into children already!?

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

Why is RISPERDAL being thrown around so much? I remember that being pushed on a lot of people in the 90s, and that almost included me.

Hell that shit was pushed on to me during roughly the end of 2009 to early 2010s when i was in my middle school years, it didn't help with anything as an autistic kid and really just made me fat. It seems like this drug has been pushed longer than I realized.

 

[doodoocaca]

I faintly remember being put on all kinds of shit by the pill pushers. I also remember frequent drug tests being put on lithium.

I most vividly remember flushing a whole bottle of pills down the toilet so I could have feelings again.

God dammit, I dodged a lot, even with as much as I did go through.

 

[Super Guido]

Hell that shit was pushed on to me during roughly the end of 2009 to early 2010s when i was in my middle school years, it didn't help with anything as an autistic kid and really just made me fat. It seems like this drug has been pushed longer than I realized.

It was in 2002 for me.

 

[Android raptor]

It was in 2002 for me.

2003 for me, though thankfully I wasn't on it for very long.

Trying to drug neurodivergent kids into being complacent zombies instead of addressing the real issues making them act out like bullying and familial abuse is fucked and I hate that so many other people went through it

 

[Sprite Can]

I thought it was Cross Creek Manor. Something else, something newer? CCM was pretty fucking hellish, I'm sorry you had to endure that.

IIRC CCM became CCA. The manor was in the same small town and when I was there only used on special occasions like parent visits

 

[Super Guido]

2003 for me, though thankfully I wasn't on it for very long.

Trying to drug neurodivergent kids into being complacent zombies instead of addressing the real issues making them act out like bullying and familial abuse is fucked and I hate that so many other people went through it

They took me off it because I was gaining a shitload of weight, so it could have been worse, I guess.

 

[Android raptor]

They took me off it because I was gaining a shitload of weight, so it could have been worse, I guess.

Yeah a lot of anti-psychotics make you blow the fuck up. I was lucky enough to avoid becoming overweight on any of them but I definitely got heavier.

Fucking seroquel

 

[doodoocaca]

In a fucking hilarious turn of events providing needed levity, Tom Nichols had an affair with Tammy Harradine, a nurse at Ivy Ridge, while also engaging in the most cringy, pathetic dirty talk ever (Beef Strokin' Off), yet somehow being aware that emailing back and forth might incriminate him one day, and either dirty talking very badly or seriously emailing about a swollen finger with an email having the subject 'warts' :










Tammy makes sure to totally not look guilty on Facebook herself, though this is likely with regards to her implication in manifold crimes far more serious than fucking a cringy small town politician:



Tom is also found in a text telling people to not investigate corruption in local politics:



Finally, another Tom Nichols who writes for The Atlantic asks that we not harass him for what the Ivy Ridge Tom did:

 

[Gog & Magog]

This is why you should only ERP in DMs like us Farmers.