UK United Kingdom Royal Family / Royal Families Drama General Thread - formerly "Prince Harry and Meghan to step back as senior royals"

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The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have announced they will step back as "senior" royals and work to become financially independent.

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In a statement, Prince Harry and Meghan also said they plan to split their time between the UK and North America.

The BBC understands no other royal - including the Queen or Prince William - was consulted before the statement and Buckingham Palace is "disappointed".

Senior royals are understood to be "hurt" by the announcement.

In their unexpected statement on Wednesday, also posted on their Instagram page, the couple said they made the decision "after many months of reflection and internal discussions".

"We intend to step back as 'senior' members of the Royal Family and work to become financially independent, while continuing to fully support Her Majesty The Queen."

They said they plan to balance their time between the UK and North America while "continuing to honour our duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages".

"This geographic balance will enable us to raise our son with an appreciation for the royal tradition into which he was born, while also providing our family with the space to focus on the next chapter, including the launch of our new charitable entity."

A Buckingham Palace spokeswoman said discussions with the duke and duchess on their decision to step back were "at an early stage", adding: "We understand their desire to take a different approach, but these are complicated issues that will take time to work through."

The couple's announcement on Wednesday comes two months after the Duke of York withdrew from public life after a BBC interview about his ties to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, who killed himself in August.

 
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ah.
ego.

you don't have to go out in an Upholstered Iron Lung like the monstrosities Hillary rocks just because you're not Top Model anymore
there is room for compromise
Hillary's bulky power suits are allegedly because she has to wear a bullet-proof vest in public.

While I generally appreciate Otterly's take on things, there's some mighty fine excuse-making for Kate and the kids happening there. Someone needs to have an American Revolution in their mind, friendo.

"She can't just BUY CLOTHES and WEAR THEM, they need to be specially TAILORED, which takes MONTHS!"

In the photo of contention, she's wearing jeans, a sweater, and a jacket/vest dealio. Nothing looks specially tailored for her, she's just wearing clothes.

If she needs to hide an ostomy bag, you know what would be great to wear? A sweater, with a jacket over it.

It's not 1960 where a photo of the princess wearing normie clothes is going to break people.
 
Hillary's bulky power suits are allegedly because she has to wear a bullet-proof vest in public.

While I generally appreciate Otterly's take on things, there's some mighty fine excuse-making for Kate and the kids happening there. Someone needs to have an American Revolution in their mind, friendo.

"She can't just BUY CLOTHES and WEAR THEM, they need to be specially TAILORED, which takes MONTHS!"

In the photo of contention, she's wearing jeans, a sweater, and a jacket/vest dealio. Nothing looks specially tailored for her, she's just wearing clothes.

If she needs to hide an ostomy bag, you know what would be great to wear? A sweater, with a jacket over it.

It's not 1960 where a photo of the princess wearing normie clothes is going to break people.
tbf a lot of British Reasoning is like
"back in ad930 Lord Buttmorn Of East Ballsack wore an onion on his belt, so ever since then there's been increasing steps to work around The Wearing Of The Onion per tradition"
"why not just not wear the fucking onion?"
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She can't just BUY CLOTHES and WEAR THEM, they need to be specially TAILORED, which takes MONTHS!"
Sweater is fine for the polo or general pleb-meet-and-what-do-you-do but if she’s at a ‘fancy sequinned frock and the sash thing’ do she’s dolled up.
Defending royals is a new thing for me I must admit. Perhaps I’m seeing a mum of several kids in her, it I do feel for her under that pressure. Ostomies are rough for anyone.
As for revolution, well I’d keep the royals, the castles and whatnot are pretty. My ire would be directed at the contents of Westminster and Holyrood and the corporatocracy.
 
"She can't just BUY CLOTHES and WEAR THEM, they need to be specially TAILORED, which takes MONTHS!"

In the photo of contention, she's wearing jeans, a sweater, and a jacket/vest dealio. Nothing looks specially tailored for her, she's just wearing clothes.

If she needs to hide an ostomy bag, you know what would be great to wear? A sweater, with a jacket over it.

It's not 1960 where a photo of the princess wearing normie clothes is going to break people.
You're missing Otterly's point. She can and does wear plenty of regular, untailored clothes when she's in much more casual settings, but clothing for Big Fancy State Events (such as the one where the pictures where you can maybe see the outline of a stoma bag were taken) is highly regimented and not something you can change on a whim.

If her health issues came on suddenly and she didn't have any fancy dresses that could hide a stoma bag due to her not favoring loose or flowing dresses, she'd just have to make do with whatever fine dress she had onhand.
 
Defending royals is a new thing for me I must admit. Perhaps I’m seeing a mum of several kids in her, it I do feel for her under that pressure.
I think it kind of evolved naturally for a lot of people following Mexit. You unintentionally form an opinion and then pick sides. I myself went along this track: “American practically-nobody Meghan marrying prince? Good for her. Fleeing dyfunctional royal family? Good for her. Calling out the instition while… continuing to tout her royal titles? Uhhhh kayyyy… never shutting the fuck up about it? Alright I’m over Meghan.” And then you start to like her SIL more just by contrast.

After Megan and Harry can’t shut the fuck up about their nothingburgers and their nonstop overexposure the past two years, think it is natural for many people to be predisposed to like William and Catherine by contrast. People also often have a soft spot for Catherine because she was upper middle class instead of aristocracy (rumors of her mother grooming her to pursue William aside).


Or maybe I’m just projecting. I feel bad for her. She needs a substantially more robust pr team.
 
I think it kind of evolved naturally for a lot of people following Mexit. You unintentionally form an opinion and then pick sides. I myself went along this track: “American practically-nobody Meghan marrying prince? Good for her. Fleeing dyfunctional royal family? Good for her. Calling out the instition while… continuing to tout her royal titles? Uhhhh kayyyy… never shutting the fuck up about it? Alright I’m over Meghan.” And then you start to like her SIL more just by contrast.

After Megan and Harry can’t shut the fuck up about their nothingburgers and their nonstop overexposure the past two years, think it is natural for many people to be predisposed to like William and Catherine by contrast. People also often have a soft spot for Catherine because she was upper middle class instead of aristocracy (rumors of her mother grooming her to pursue William aside).


Or maybe I’m just projecting. I feel bad for her. She needs a substantially more robust pr team.
oh yeah, there is definitely a reasonable line of it not being as batshit crazy as it seems at first blush
it's reasonable that he's kinda busy cramming what was expected to be five years of King School in about ten months so the idea that he would have to put that duty before his personal life is kinda the point of royalty, so him not being around at the hospital seems not _that_ weird
and the idea that they're low on PR hands to spare for this makes sense with Andrew still sort of a thing, the king's imminent death, and whatever crap comes from meghan this week
 
"She can't just BUY CLOTHES and WEAR THEM, they need to be specially TAILORED, which takes MONTHS!"

In the photo of contention, she's wearing jeans, a sweater, and a jacket/vest dealio. Nothing looks specially tailored for her, she's just wearing clothes.

If she needs to hide an ostomy bag, you know what would be great to wear? A sweater, with a jacket over it.

It's not 1960 where a photo of the princess wearing normie clothes is going to break people.
Not to pile on when other people have made the point, but have another look at what she's wearing and the context
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She's wearing a very fancy sparkly dress and a tiara, but there's a couple of other elements on show - the big blue sash and the yellow pad with the brooch on it. They're not just random outfit choices.
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They're to show Catherine is a Dame Grand of the Royal Victorian Order and a member of the Royal Family Order of Elizabeth II (both were bestowed by the Queen). They were both honours bestowed on her by the late Queen, and these sorts of swags and swashes are to make up for the fact that most Royal women don't serve in the military and so don't have ceremonial medals to wear - because this is a state event and she's in full ceremonial garb. That's because this was the Diplomatic Reception. Same reason she's wearing a tiara, which is generally considered to be one of the most formal items a woman can wear (and most of the royal jewels are historic), in this case the Queen Mary Lover's Knot tiara
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You know how people would get pissed off at a wedding guest who turned up in jeans and a tshirt? And no, I don't mean those sorts of weddings where the bride and groom just go "Wear what you want! We just want people to be comfy!", I mean a formal wedding. Depending on how formal, the guests might even be judged on what colours they're wearing, what length of dress they're wearing, how they're cut etc (if you go to a church, do you have bare shoulders? are you wearing a hat? etc). The sort of resentment a wedding guest might feel for turning up to a wedding in jeans and a t-shirt is amplified 100,000-fold for someone like Kate. There's specific rules of etiquette around the sort of outfit, they're always very fitted. Look at Camilla -
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there's not much scope for a billowy loose casual number that would obscure the waist. Even her billowiest Jenny Packham gown (and ironically this is also a Jenny Packham gown) was structured at the waist. Dressing otherwise would be seen as a snub to the assembled dignitaries and her entire job is to be pretty and have great hair and walk around in gorgeous gowns that are the correct-level-of-formal at various state functions, and she could maybe get away with something more like what Camilla's wearing but then the press would have her under the scope for dressing "matronly". Her maternity dresses were structured.

There's certainly an element of
"why not just not wear the fucking onion?"
but despite Charles's desire to "modernise" (relatively speaking) the Royal family (because he grew up in the true old school, and found it restrictive and obstructive) I think Will very much seeks more of a RETVRN, possibly because he realises if he doesn't wear the onion, there's really no point to him at all. There's likely also an element of seeing what his father did wanting to shrug off tradition and modernise and seeing his brother embrace that which has spooked him off, and Kate no doubt is on the same wavelength. Supposedly that's how she ended up wearing that elaborate Alexander McQueen headpiece at the coronation - because Charles and Camilla banned tiaras, to try and "update" the coronation".

With all that in mind, you can hardly blame the woman for wanting to hide out for several months if she's finding the stoma a lot to deal with or has otherwise had a drastic appearance change post surgery - but it is also understandable that people started thinking there's something more nefarious at play, given how unlike the royal PR machine this has all been.
 
I’m retarded, can somebody please repost the image where some allege that they might see Catherine’s dress concealing a shit bag?
 
Honest answer? It would be unusual for her and her wardrobe is made to measure with a long lead time.
She has a style and that style emphasises that she’s tall and slim. She’s got the kind of figure that women would kill for and she doesn’t normally wear billowy stuff.
Yeah but that's totally wrecked by a fucking colostomy bag of all things. For something like $5K I could fly to Hong Kong and have a half dozen bespoke suits tomorrow. I'm pretty sure royalty could swing it.
As for revolution, well I’d keep the royals, the castles and whatnot are pretty. My ire would be directed at the contents of Westminster and Holyrood and the corporatocracy.
Say what you like about the royals, they're just there to look cute, be celebrities and stand for some kind of ancient tradition.

They aren't flat out facefucking and sodomizing the entire country like Parliament.
 
AssignedEva, appreciate the sperging, but Otterly was making like she can't release a photo RIGHT FUCKING NOW because none of her clothes fit. Not just ceremonial/formal stuff, but like zero.

I'm saying that she's one of the richest and most powerful people in the world and not only am I pretty sure they have Amazon next day delivery there, but she's an English princess, and she could have like birds and mice and shit custom-make her something immediately if everything at British Nordstrom was too mundane.
 
They're to show Catherine is a Dame Grand of the Royal Victorian Order and a member of the Royal Family Order of Elizabeth II (both were bestowed by the Queen). They were both honours bestowed on her by the late Queen, and these sorts of swags and swashes are to make up for the fact that most Royal women don't serve in the military and so don't have ceremonial medals to wear - because this is a state event and she's in full ceremonial garb. That's because this was the Diplomatic Reception. Same reason she's wearing a tiara, which is generally considered to be one of the most formal items a woman can wear (and most of the royal jewels are historic), in this case the Queen Mary Lover's Knot tiara
thank you for translating this to burger words
I’m retarded, can somebody please repost the image where some allege that they might see Catherine’s dress concealing a shit bag?
weird lump on the front near her pooch, on her right your left, post right above yours
 
(rumors of her mother grooming her to pursue William aside).
I mean, if you show interest in a prince, hpw you court is not usuall. And if I was a mum I’d absolutely make sure my daughter did things correct.

It’s why Harry and Neg was such a story. It was not standard or how things were done and there was no point where Meg was to how to go after him and what it means if she did.
 
despite Charles's desire to "modernise" (relatively speaking) the Royal family (because he grew up in the true old school, and found it restrictive and obstructive) I think Will very much seeks more of a RETVRN, possibly because he realises if he doesn't wear the onion, there's really no point to him at all. There's likely also an element of seeing what his father did wanting to shrug off tradition and modernise and seeing his brother embrace that which has spooked him off, and Kate no doubt is on the same wavelength.
It's probably for the best to kick it old school. Despite his bald head and her (possible) shitbag, they still look like the most fairytale image of Royalty the UK has seen in modern history (the 5 minutes where Charles looked reasonably young next to the glamorous Diana notwithstanding). He should go all out.

For example, Charles read the room right for his coronation--understated, especially so close to his mother's funeral after such a long reign. He's a caretaker King and he accepts that now. William though? He should have the biggest fuck off coronation in centuries. This is the last big chance to get people excited about the Royal Family.
 
Thank you. To me it looks like poorly lying sequins on a small, normal woman’s pooch but I see what people are talking about.
yeah that's why I was thinking "okay, we go with dress #2" when somebody noticed the weird bulge
I can understand the importance of the sacred sash of succotash and whatnot, but it seems like just in case some weird mess happens I would expect them to have at least two backup dresses at any moment
 
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