Furry Convention Drama - Because you can't have a couple thousand dog fucking enthusiasts under the same roof without shit hitting the fan

[Law]

if you actually sat down and learned the history of drag

I think the history of drag is kind of like the history of furry, where it's not all sexual but a sexual element was always present.
I agree with you that dressing up in a costume is not an inherently sexual behavior.
I actually have to been to drag shows and I find some drag humor funny and clever, and there's no denying that many drag queens are talented costume-makers and performers. I'm not against drag, I just don't think it's appropriate for kids and I think the push to have drag queens perform for kids at libraries was fucking odd. I'm also not against furry conventions, but if I had kids and they asked me if they could go to one, I'd say no.
I know that troonism and drag are different things, but I think there is significant overlap. Something like 19 RuPaul's Drag Race contestants have transed themselves.

 

[Guysho]

All this talk of drag, it reminds me of the extremely gay-filled, but interesting time capsule youtube channel. You can search through yourself, I just skipped to the part that immediately takes me back to the 90's. Riding home half-awake while hearing 80's music on the radio

 

[Stratovorious]

I think the history of drag is kind of like the history of furry, where it's not all sexual but a sexual element was always present.
I agree with you that dressing up in a costume is not an inherently sexual behavior.
I actually have to been to drag shows and I find some drag humor funny and clever, and there's no denying that many drag queens are talented costume-makers and performers. I'm not against drag, I just don't think it's appropriate for kids and I think the push to have drag queens perform for kids at libraries was fucking odd. I'm also not against furry conventions, but if I had kids and they asked me if they could go to one, I'd say no.
I know that troonism and drag are different things, but I think there is significant overlap. Something like 19 RuPaul's Drag Race contestants have transed themselves.

OK, it sounds like we're on the exact same page.

Sorry for the autism earlier. I just care a lot about precise and factual communications.

 

[Law]

Drag and furry are both niche subcultures dominated by gay men and I think certain elements in both subcultures tried to up their numbers by making the categories too broad. This lack of definition, wether intentional or not, leads to a lot of problems.
For example, according to some people male actors playing women in plays in the 1550s cause women performing was illegal, Leigh Bowery wearing wild clothes in the 1980s, and Pantomime Dames performing in a Christmas show for families in the UK in the 2010s all belong in the category of "drag", but I think these things are all really different and don't belong together.
Just like how Mickey Mouse, zoophiles, Werewolf: The Apocalypse, and leather daddies don't belong together, but are all jammed together under the Furry umbrella.

 

[Barry Williams]

TFF denounced the zoophiles.
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While zoophilia isn't welcome at their convention, grooming validating 2SLGBTQIAKMS+ children sure is!
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>"zoophilia bad"
>"2SLGBTQIA+"

my brother in christ what do think that "+" means

 

[Sintharia]

>"zoophilia bad"
>"2SLGBTQIA+"

my brother in christ what do think that "+" means

Not fucking animals and children, my dude. There are so many goddamn letters that even the queers can't keep up; that's what the + is for. It's not for the paraphiles; it's for the consenting adults who decided to define their "I'll fuck anybody who will give me the time of day" as some kind of special sexuality.

 

[Catboi]

Not fucking animals and children, my dude. There are so many goddamn letters that even the queers can't keep up; that's what the + is for. It's not for the paraphiles; it's for the consenting adults who decided to define their "I'll fuck anybody who will give me the time of day" as some kind of special sexuality.

>Not fucking animals and children, my dude.

1. Stop talking like a retarded twitter leftist

2. Nobody tell this guy about the founders of Queer Theory and the definition of Pansexuality before it was mainstream

 

[Murry Loon]

2. Nobody tell this guy about the founders of Queer Theory and the definition of Pansexuality before it was mainstream

1. Stop talking like a retarded twitter leftist
2. Queer used to MEAN something. foucault & butler & wilchins are all my homies. we must take our culture back

 

[Beef Supplier]

>"zoophilia bad"
>"2SLGBTQIA+"

my brother in christ what do think that "+" means

I will never understand why cons still allow minors when the majority of attendees don't want them there.
The worst part was watching kids with there parents in the dealers den just walk by porn and degenerate art like it's okay to be showing this stuff to children.

 

[Mikoyan]

I will never understand why cons still allow minors when the majority of attendees don't want them there.
The worst part was watching kids with there parents in the dealers den just walk by porn and degenerate art like it's okay to be showing this stuff to children.

I actually think it's the fault of the Kage Denial Tactics. They spent so long denying to everyone that it's all squeaky clean and nothing to see here that they started believing.

 

[Law]

I will never understand why cons still allow minors when the majority of attendees don't want them there.

A very small, very sinister minority does want them there.
Less sinister, but equally disingenuous reasons for wanting minors at your furcon include:
"I would've wanted to experience this when I was a kid!" No, you wouldn't have. People in their 20s and 30s don't really perfectly remember what it was like to be 14, and they tend to embellish these memories. Plus, you shouldn't use projections of what you might've wanted as a child to impact safety decisions for other people's kids. Trans-defenders use this same logic.

"If we have a bunch of happy children running around, it will make our weird nerd shit look more normal!" It won't. You're weird, you're niche, most people don't understand it. Get over it. These are also people who feel ashamed of their dorky hobbies, so they try to make them seem less outrè and more mainstream. If you're ashamed of something, you shouldn't be doing it. They're not just trying to convince you, they're trying to convince themselves.

"If we have a bunch of happy children running around, people won't ask about what really goes on at our room parties!"
Using other people's kids as a smokescreen for Uncle Kage's macro fetish is wrong.

Most attendees don't want minors there. But the actual pedos, delusional people, people trying to convince themselves and others that furry is more mainstream than it is, and people who want a "family friendly" smokescreen are the people running the show.

 

[Beef Supplier]

It also doesn't help that every single night at most conventions minors get into parties simply because they have suits. I have seem some close calls because drunk people just start grinding against random suiters and it turns out to be a minor.

 

[Law]

It also doesn't help that every single night at most conventions minors get into parties simply because they have suits. I have seem some close calls because drunk people simple just start grinding against random suiters and it turns out to be a minor.

Oh wow, I didn't even think of that. I used to go to anime and gaming conventions a lot and most people didn't wear costumes, and those who did wore costumes that didn't cover their whole head the way a fursuit does.
Now that you mention it you really can't tell who is in a fursuit at all. They really do obscure the wearer in a way other costumes don't.

 

[Racoober]

It also doesn't help that every single night at most conventions minors get into parties simply because they have suits. I have seem some close calls because drunk people simple just start grinding against random suiters and it turns out to be a minor.

At the very least parties/events will have you remove your head to card check you for alcohol, but for entering said parties people will just go off your badge type (under 18, over 18 ). This is just for the official 'party floor' rooms though, so what you described can very well happen somewhere else.

 

[Beef Supplier]

At the very least parties/events will have you remove your head to card check you for alcohol, but for entering said parties people will just go off your badge type (under 18, over 18 ). This is just for the official 'party floor' rooms though, so what you described can very well happen somewhere else.

They are suposted to. But come midnight and the doorman is drunk. It's pretty easy to sneak in.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Queer used to MEAN something

Yes, it was and is a synonym for "sexual pervert", usually describing a person with deep and obvious mental and emotional issues, frequently the victim of pedophilia and predictably a future pedophile themselves.

 

[Racoober]

The FWA DJ discourse continues (A/T):

Check out the records yourself here. Some of their top level board members were compensated 25k

 

[Murry Loon]

fwiw I would rather listen to the Splice.com sample-flip music of borderline-personality-disorder babyfur gojii than to Mystery Skulls any day, a project of a guy who brought us this:

 

[Barry Williams]

Not fucking animals and children, my dude. There are so many goddamn letters that even the queers can't keep up; that's what the + is for. It's not for the paraphiles; it's for the consenting adults who decided to define their "I'll fuck anybody who will give me the time of day" as some kind of special sexuality.

lmao the plus sign literally stands for shit like pedophilia and zoophilia, my dude. The people who created that eyesore of an acronym had the foresight not to include suspicious shit like "P" and "Z" because there's very few words those letters could stand for. They hid that behind the plus as a wink and a nod to everyone who that covers without explicitly mentioning them.

 

[AnthonyLoggerhead]

The FWA DJ discourse continues (A/T):

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Check out the records yourself here. Some of their top level board members were compensated 25k
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This furnigger was so mad that a normie artist got picked to perform over him that he turned into the IRS. Lol, lmao even.

But if furfag cons started fully covering the travel expenses of the furfag musicians they chose to perform, imagine the catastrophic levels of drama & backstabbing that would take place in the furry music scene as thousands of furnigger musicians fight each other for that coveted all expenses paid furfag con trip. And I haven’t even accounted for the exposure they’d get by playing at the con.