Inactive Andrew Dobson / Tom Preston / CattyN - STOP DOING SEXIST CRAP

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Sad thing is, Grump fits Dobson pretty accurately.

I tried to fix Elsa's face, I tried really hard, guys. Her head is so short and fat. (:_(

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Good job. She looks less like a troll in your redraw. Seriously, it's like he never even saw Frozen. Only shitty fanart of it.

Is Quadocky being ironic, or dead serious?

If it's the latter, then those :story: are very justified.
 
You've gotta remember, Dobson's supposed respect for women is 100% phony. The SJW thing is completely a put-on thing he's doing as an attempt to bolster his popularity and get women to like him. There are plenty of indications Dobson actually really detests women, almost as much as he hates other men. He's very much like Chris in his views on the rest of humanity... women are either potential targets for his lust or bitches to be dismissed, all other men are annoyances at best and enemies otherwise.

If Dobson weren't dedicated to pretending to be a feminist, he'd be a flat out MGTOW MRA.

His fetish is literally murdering women by inflating them until they explode. Who the fuck other than a complete sicko would have that fetish?
 

Because everyone knows that if you can find a picture of some poor-looking children and post them, all criminality from the element they're associated with doesn't happen.

If only we'd known, we could have gone around showing everyone pictures of hungry little German children and stopped WWII without that whole fighting business.
 
Joke's on you, Dob.
Pleb HAS a fucking job and is pretty fucking pro with her art when she ain't shitposting.
You're only recently started shitting out art because you noticed your patreon dropped by half over the last few months.

She's just bored, and you're easy entertainment.

Fuck, man, most artists would appreciate hard core critique with lack of sugarcoating like Pleb provides.

I do writing when the mood strikes me (which anybody who writes for a living would slap me upside the head for saying), and if someone was willing to say "bro, this is shit", I'd appreciate it.
 
I tried to fix Elsa's face, I tried really hard, guys. Her head is so short and fat. (:_(

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I love how you fixed the eyes. Dobson still hasn't figured out that turning your head a little doesn't make one eye three times larger than the other, or that when you look to the side, your pupils don't normally almost disappear into the back of your skull.
 
I tried to fix Elsa's face, I tried really hard, guys. Her head is so short and fat. (:_(

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You know, she actually looks vaguely flirtatious in your version. Which is what I think Dobson was going for, so you can say you Dobsoned better then Dobson. Not much of an accomplishment, but hey, something to take.
 
I do writing when the mood strikes me (which anybody who writes for a living would slap me upside the head for saying), and if someone was willing to say "bro, this is shit", I'd appreciate it.

I totally agree. I've said some stupid stuff in the past (on this forum even), and I appreciate it when people call me on any bullshit I spew, because there will hopefully be less bullshit in the future.
 
I tried to fix Elsa's face, I tried really hard, guys. Her head is so short and fat. (:_(

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What always gets me is how Dobbie doesn't understand how to draw mouths. It's the same with all his characters:

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The corners of the mouths are always stretched to an incredible width, it must be terribly painful for Dobbie's characters.
 
Have you tried "View Page Info" on Firefox?
Thanks, it didn't seem to work either but I still found a different method involving external sites. Damned Twitter and it's non-existent options to save animations!

So here is the little animation Dobson made of Trump. Let's keep in mind that he rarely animates anymore, Trump must be very special to him to inspire... this thing.
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What always gets me is how Dobbie doesn't understand how to draw mouths. It's the same with all his characters:

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The corners of the mouths are always stretched to an incredible width, it must be terribly painful for Dobbie's characters.
I can only imagine it's just him trying to exaggerate the mouth in order to do these terrifying expressions.

The only problem is that Dobson keeps forgetting Exaggeration 101- make sure you actually know how to draw something correctly before exaggerating. And it's obvious he's doing this completely and utterly blind.

Though I have seen people draw huge ass mouths before and pull it off fairly decently. So I'm pretty sure it's just another fail regarding Dobson's (lack of) art skills.

Thanks, it didn't seem to work either but I still found a different method involving external sites. Damned Twitter and it's non-existent options to save animations!

So here is the little animation Dobson made of Trump. Let's keep in mind that he rarely animates anymore, Trump must be very special to him to inspire... this thing.
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Case in point. What the hell is Trump even doing in this animation? If he's supposed to be snorting, then Dobbers forgot the coke.
 
Thanks, it didn't seem to work either but I still found a different method involving external sites. Damned Twitter and it's non-existent options to save animations!

So here is the little animation Dobson made of Trump. Let's keep in mind that he rarely animates anymore, Trump must be very special to him to inspire... this thing.
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It doesn't even look like Trump; it looks like a generic old man. If it didn't say it was Trump I wouldn't know it was supposed to be him.

"how depressing your life must be"
I don't understand how people think having fun on the internet means they're necessarily unhappy in any way. Pleb sounded as though she was enjoying herself on her stream; editing art is pretty fun and so is messing with people like Dobson. I know he's either just projecting or saying it so he can feel better.
 
I tried to fix Elsa's face, I tried really hard, guys. Her head is so short and fat. (:_(

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I kind of like what your trying to do there but it feels a touch plain and a little too angular, would work with a less "toony" face. It's still better than Dobson's effort mind.

Dobson's problem is he is literally going off the Eilsa art that tops the google search, the smug faced look that's in about 70% of her promo art and based the drawing off the CG art rather than considering the following;

What is Elsa's character & personality? - Yes Disney marketed her all sassy like, but in the film she's actually a really passionate & loving person who had spent maybe a decade surpressing all feeling because of her ice power & her parents inability to cope. Yes she's confident in the ice power, because that actually does come almost naturally, she doesn't really understand other people so much (but then she has been locked in a bedroom for years...)

How do you draw a human face? - to break the rules you should really know them first, otherwise you get weird sloppy messes like this. Or just something approaching "poor copy of the original"

When to exaggerate features (and when not to) - Characters depicted as bad will always have hyper exaggerated features (For example. Cruella De Vil has a very angular face - huge eyes and mouth) - this is so the audience is subconsciously driven from relating to them vs the less exaggerated and more "normal" looking hero character.

Elsa has a touch of the exaggerated features because going into "Frozen" - your supposed to buy that hey, maybe she actually is the big bad in this film. But it's more subtle - Dobson's drawing takes the subtle out to the pasture and shoots it dead.
 
The biggest problem with Dobson is that his "style" is shit even among a completely objective and unbiased observer. Adding excess lines, wrinkles, and weird eyebrows will never ever be considered attractive. Even those stupid learn to draw anime books at least try to teach the user which human features are generally considered pleasant to look at.
 
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