Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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1 and 2 weeks post op PIV​

Standard PIV on March 5. Pic one is 2 weeks post op (today, 3/19). Pic 2 is immediately after packing was removed at 6 days post op (3/11). I have my post op exam appointment with the surgeon in two days (3/21). My protocol has been no sitting and to do vaginal rinses 3 times a day. I'll be shown how to dilate at my post op exam. I feel really swollen and tight still and I am kinda scared to dilate. I tried getting two fingers inside during a shower today and I really couldn't without a lot of pressure. People keep telling me it's going to be fine, though, so we will see. Surgery with Dr. Gast in Madison, WI. I hope I get cleared to travel back home soon. Comments and questions welcome!
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I am kinda scared to dilate

That’s what this guy is scared of. Not the terrifying hellscape he calls his genitalia. Why, the puckering on the stitching alone looks like an erupting skin disease, before we get to the mysterious folds and collapsing chamber of horrors. As for the smell, well, the nosed will envy the dead.
 

1 and 2 weeks post op PIV​

Standard PIV on March 5. Pic one is 2 weeks post op (today, 3/19). Pic 2 is immediately after packing was removed at 6 days post op (3/11). I have my post op exam appointment with the surgeon in two days (3/21). My protocol has been no sitting and to do vaginal rinses 3 times a day. I'll be shown how to dilate at my post op exam. I feel really swollen and tight still and I am kinda scared to dilate. I tried getting two fingers inside during a shower today and I really couldn't without a lot of pressure. People keep telling me it's going to be fine, though, so we will see. Surgery with Dr. Gast in Madison, WI. I hope I get cleared to travel back home soon. Comments and questions welcome!
Damn they didn't even pretend/try to give this dude the dickhead "clit" did they? Can't wait to hear future complaints lmao
 
That’s what this guy is scared of. Not the terrifying hellscape he calls his genitalia. Why, the puckering on the stitching alone looks like an erupting skin disease, before we get to the mysterious folds and collapsing chamber of horrors. As for the smell, well, the nosed will envy the dead.
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That rotting wound looks like what you’d see if you turned Oogie Boogie upside down to get a closer look at his boogie bits. It beggars belief that he would look at his ruined body and think that there was ever going to be a chance that it might accommodate fingers or tools of any kind. The fact that he’s already stuck his fingers up there is just beyond insanity.
 
My protocol has been no sitting and to do vaginal rinses 3 times a day. I'll be shown how to dilate at my post op exam. I feel really swollen and tight still and I am kinda scared to dilate. I tried getting two fingers inside during a shower today and I really couldn't without a lot of pressure.

Wait, what? I thought that they made the troon start dilating right after surgery (to the point that many wake up with a dilator or packing that must be changed soon afterward inside their wound)? This guy is two weeks post op and still hasn't been "taught how to dilate" or tried beyond a feeble attempt to finger himself? I genuinely thought this was one of those zero penetration dick chops. He was supposed to dilate this?

Maybe he is claiming he wasn't taught because he realized that he just made the worst mistake of his life? No shit it'll be tight and painful when someone fingers a literal surgical wound! The AGPs that find out that dilation isn't the masturbation-a-thon they thought it was going to be deserve every stupid prize they get.
 
Wait, what? I thought that they made the troon start dilating right after surgery (to the point that many wake up with a dilator or packing that must be changed soon afterward inside their wound)? This guy is two weeks post op and still hasn't been "taught how to dilate" or tried beyond a feeble attempt to finger himself? I genuinely thought this was one of those zero penetration dick chops. He was supposed to dilate this?

Maybe he is claiming he wasn't taught because he realized that he just made the worst mistake of his life? No shit it'll be tight and painful when someone fingers a literal surgical wound! The AGPs that find out that dilation isn't the masturbation-a-thon they thought it was going to be deserve every stupid prize they get.
Alternatively, he may also be an oblivious autist who only half listens and doesn't get that his version of pseudovagina is different from others he's been fantasizing about over Reddit.
 
These surgeons need to go to jail. I don’t get why there isn’t more outrage about some of these outcomes.
Because there's no standard of care, it's all experimental surgery on mentally ill people. Troons are afraid to speak out because the community is invested in propping up the lie that these are life-saving procedures, anyone saying otherwise is othered and shunned.

Lawsuits and backlash will happen eventually. For now, suggesting these people should be denied surgery—even if the reason is because the surgery is horrific butchery on par with Civil War battlefield practices—is gEnOciDe to them.

Doctors themselves are the ones telling parents "would you rather have a dead son or a living daughter?" It's all rather evil and will, eventually, be thought of as we now think of lobotomies. We're not there yet.
 
wasn't quite sure where to post this as the (detrans) lady touches on a lot of areas- including SRS- but as its kind of long form-ish, and detail oriented/ educational, I decided this thread.


she's got a lot of insights on a range of stuff, particularly hope she expands further on the point she makes about Buck Angel/porn's influence within trans id- even "based" trans people like Buck . But yeah, some interesting stuff.
 
Because there's no standard of care, it's all experimental surgery on mentally ill people. Troons are afraid to speak out because the community is invested in propping up the lie that these are life-saving procedures, anyone saying otherwise is othered and shunned.

Lawsuits and backlash will happen eventually. For now, suggesting these people should be denied surgery—even if the reason is because the surgery is horrific butchery on par with Civil War battlefield practices—is gEnOciDe to them.

Doctors themselves are the ones telling parents "would you rather have a dead son or a living daughter?" It's all rather evil and will, eventually, be thought of as we now think of lobotomies. We're not there yet.
This is going to be very autistic on my part, but bear with me.

If anyone has read The Structure of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas Kuhn, I think the concepts in it have explanatory power here. In the book, Kuhn describes the process of scientific theory crafting not as a linear process of slow learning and iterative steps, as it is often though of, even by scientists, but as an essentially dialectical process where a dominant paradigm directs discourse, research and actions, emphasizing things that support whatever the dominant theory/model is and dismissing or excusing contradictions as faulty or exceptions to the rule. This process repeats itself over and over, because most of the community responsible for further developing research aligns itself dogmatically to the dominant paradigm. The takeaway is that once a paradigm establishes dominance, the practitioners defend their position at the top until the contradictions being presented become too overwhelming to ignore or excuse, there's a general disillusionment, a shake up of institutional power, and a new group takes centre stage with a new synthesis that attempts account for the failure of the older system. This conflict is not purely ideological, as it concerns the real access to material resources that practising the dominant model brings. This is especially true in things like medicine, where these models control recommended treatments and therapy and hence the money and resources that go with them.

This is really, when you think about it, a pattern that occurs a lot all over human society, but seeing it articulated for me really helped clarify things for me. We are currently watching the dominant paradigm of trans medicine, collapsing, itself part of a broader collapse of human behavioural science that has been convulsing the past decade under the revelation that a lot of the studies that helped create it (and displaced the older, lingering psychoanalytic approach) were faulty or straight up fraudulent. It always takes time, and I'm not trying to say be optimistic, but it does seem that the contradictions are building up. Even journalists, who for the most part exist purely as amplifiers for the dominant paradigm, are showing signs that the consensus is breaking down.

I will take my Puzzle Pieces, Moais and Rainbows now.
 
These surgeons need to go to jail. I don’t get why there isn’t more outrage about some of these outcomes.
what shocks me is that so many of the damaged people just quietly kill themselves instead of trying to exact revenge. so many of them are personality disordered in the exact way that would predict vengeance seeking. I honestly have no explanation for it. I have heard of one of these troons trying to kill their therapist for NOT writing a letter (obviously this was many decades ago since therapists never refuse to do that anymore).
 
This one's horrifying! wittengirl2024
Link | Archive Full depth PPT, day 11
I had my first followup a few days ago and all went well. Depth is 13-14 centimeters. There is a small piece of dark tissue that's a wait and see.
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Here's the Day 0 post he made a week ago
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Full depth PPT vaginaplasty with Dr Wittenberg in San Francisco. I love how she looks so far. This subredit helped so much in finding the right surgeon, so this is my way of giving back. I'll continue to update as she heals. Throwaway account for privacy.
Someone commented in the reddit thread "amazing results". WTF? Are their expectations that low, or is it just delusion?
 
This troon is experiencing what he calls "bad dehiscence" after a 12-hour plane ride:


Wanna take bets on which opening he's been dilating? :lol:

Pro tip: clitoral bleeding is not a thing that ever ever happens to women. Enjoy the euphoria, buddy.
 
This troon is experiencing what he calls "bad dehiscence" after a 12-hour plane ride:


Wanna take bets on which opening he's been dilating? :lol:

Without a before picture it is impossible to say if the wound is just separation where the stitches were or if it has torn beyond the original borders of the wound. , it is rare to see an amhole that close to the asshole, so I am going to guess this is a tear. perineal tearing is more commonly associated with childbirth, and the tears have degrees to describe their severity. smaller tears are 1st or 2nd degree, if the rectal muscle is torn at all its 3rd degree, and complete severing through to the anus is 4th degree.

with 3rd and 4th degree tears, it has to be repaired before it heals on its own, or you permanently have issues w fecall incontinence, bc the ends of the muscles cannot be rejoined when the injury isn't fresh. I read an article about this from an OB that said the process of evaluating such tears necessitates putting a finger in the patient's ass, and that except with 4th degree tearing it isn't easy to tell visually if rectal repair is necessary. this guy may be in very bad shape without a visit to a hospital.

the bruising on his thighs is weird. I have seen a lot of these w/horrible bruising nearer to the amhole but never just on the thighs.
 
This troon is experiencing what he calls "bad dehiscence" after a 12-hour plane ride:


Wanna take bets on which opening he's been dilating? :lol:

The discharge from this ditch looks like pus, and theres another open wound under it from the dehiscence. This shit will get infected so fast....
 
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