Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[blablabla]

No need to remind them how to raise the white flag, it's a huge part of their history:
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Russia released surrender instructions for French soldiers in Ukraine. Link

thats fucking eerie. france sending army is going to be a fucking disaster

 

[Saleh]

So how good is the French airforce? I've seen many videos claiming that it's the biggest airforce in western Europe.

Could be useful in offensive and counter-offensive operations. Although I doubt the French would support Ukrainian suicide operations like the one in Krinky or the recent incursion into Russia since they're just PR stunts.

 

[MrJokerRager]

So how good is the French airforce? I've seen many videos claiming that it's the biggest airforce in western Europe.

Probably during WW1 and the lead up into WW2 since its the world's oldest Air Force.

 

[Doinker Marmalade]

Bro never heard about WWII

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Bro never heard about WWII
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He spelled Moscow wrong.

 

[Strix454]

So how good is the French airforce? I've seen many videos claiming that it's the biggest airforce in western Europe.

Could be useful in offensive and counter-offensive operations. Although I doubt the French would support Ukrainian suicide operations like the one in Krinky or the recent incursion into Russia since they're just PR stunts.

Unclear. Its considered a "big" airforce in part because it has alot of aircraft and helicopters of questionable use in its inventory. Their ok fighters are the home-built Dassault Rafale. I don't think they have had much of a combat history to know how well they would do. One source says that they have about 141 of them between army and navy.

The pilots and support groups would be trained to a much higher level than anyone in Ukraine. But they would have the same problems Ukraine does in that any kind of close air support on the frontlines would be almost impossible because of anti-aircraft defenses. The Russians would also escalate the air war in various ways if a country like France were to directly intervene.

They also have around seven airborne radar control planes. That would provide the capability for a far more coordinated air campaign in Ukraine than the Ukrainians have been capable of. If they could keep them from being shot down.

But I just can't see it happening. I don't think there is any political will or consensus to take France directly into war in Ukraine. Macron talking about it is one thing, but actually taking the country into war would be really difficult.

 

[Extremist Frank]

Unclear. Its considered a "big" airforce in part because it has alot of aircraft and helicopters of questionable use in its inventory. Their ok fighters are the home-built Dassault Rafale. I don't think they have had much of a combat history to know how well they would do. One source says that they have about 141 of them between army and navy.

The pilots and support groups would be trained to a much higher level than anyone in Ukraine. But they would have the same problems Ukraine does in that any kind of close air support on the frontlines would be almost impossible because of anti-aircraft defenses. The Russians would also escalate the air war in various ways if a country like France were to directly intervene.

They also have around seven airborne radar control planes. That would provide the capability for a far more coordinated air campaign in Ukraine than the Ukrainians have been capable of. If they could keep them from being shot down.

But I just can't see it happening. I don't think there is any political will or consensus to take France directly into war in Ukraine. Macron talking about it is one thing, but actually taking the country into war would be really difficult.

France (along with the other non-US Nato countries) ran out of munitions within like 10 days of their intervention in Libya back in 2011, and they haven't made any meaningful investment into munitions stockpiles in the interim, so its kind of a moot point. They can build Rafales all they want, but it means shit if they can't arm them.

 

[blackjack101]

So how good is the French airforce? I've seen many videos claiming that it's the biggest airforce in western Europe.

Could be useful in offensive and counter-offensive operations. Although I doubt the French would support Ukrainian suicide operations like the one in Krinky or the recent incursion into Russia since they're just PR stunts.

wikipedia states 315 Mirages and 234 Rafales ordered out of the planned 286 according to some february 2024 article.. Depending on what kind of modernization those jets have undergone, su-27s, Su-30s, Su-35s or mig-31s might do the trick along with moving more SAMs into Ukraine that can work with the aircraft.

The advantages Rafales might have is getting new GaN AESA radars and newer GaN EW systems. I roll my eyes with their claims that 4th gens with new avionics and new missiles means =5th gen along with the claims that they can deal with S-500s and Su-57s. These upgrades are for 2029 and fingers crossed the war will be over by than. Rostec in a 2014 book proposed new EW systems for Su-57, Su-34 and Su-34. Su-57s got the himalayas in 2014, Su-35s got khibiny-M in 2016 and the Su-34 got new EW systems tarantula in 2018. Su-57 besides getting a new engine is also receiving new avionics called the megapolis project which timeframe is 2022 to end of 2024.

Russians have chosen high bypass ratio engines which is why they have very long ranges that usually estimate to 3500kms. Rafales can achieve 3,700kms but usually with 3 fuel tanks and usually fuel tanks will take up pylons which could have been used for air to ground or air to air missiles. I am assuming long range missions matter for this war.

most of the Aster and Mica missile classes they have don't outrange K-77M(rumours that a ramjet version was test fired in october 2020 which can extend passed 193kms for the current K-77M claims), Assuming that meteor is to be equipped many different sources say excess 100km, 200km, even 300km. But still the mig-31 back in 1994 hit an aerial target 300kms away with an R-37 and those Zaslom-M radars are still pretty powerful. What we don't know is how effective EW suppression is from those Rafales like will it reduce it from being tracked and hit by the R-37 from 300km to 250km 200km, 150km, 100km?

 

[SIMIΔN]

But why now? Even the French airforce at its best can't turn the tide so late.

 

[MrJokerRager]

They're all Heretics, burn them at the stake.

Democracy is a fake and gay creation of the kikes.

Traditional monarchy or Fascism are the only truly viable forms of just rule.

Yes, "Call Volga at 149.2"

They really are the Israel of East europe

 

[Male Idiot]

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Ironic, considering Hungary was surrounded by mountains and Mordor speak is like turk, hun and kraut pronunciation.

Romania does have big forests to burn for Count Saruman!

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Proposal: you get shells; in return, I get Abrams.

To the Khokhols for Abrams.

Shitposting on shells

Hohol DRG in Kozinka, Belgorod

Before:

and after:

Spoiler: WARNING: DEAD SOLDIERS; NO GORE BUT NSFW

HoholDRGsisters, I don't feel well...
Right, here's a Link


Nikolay Alekseyev, a 49-year-old citizen of Belarus and a member of the Kastuś Kalinoŭski Regiment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, planned to blow up an administrative building in the town of Olonets in the Republic of Karelia of the Russian Federation.

Spoiler: NSFW-no gore but one very dead hohol

During the detention, he opened fire on the officers of the Federal Security Service (FSB) of the Russian Federation and was neutralized, as a result, no one was wounded.

A bomb assembled using British explosives and an American detonator was seized, as well as a pistol and ammunition. Link

Destruction of an enemy tank in Novomikhailovka. First they struck with an ATGM and then with an FPV drone.Two tame tank crews managed to escape and one was burnt together with the tank. Link
oof

Videos of volunteers from Ghana in the ranks of the Russian army are increasingly appearing on the Internet. Apparently their primary target will be the French Legion, and not only that. Link
Imagine being a baguette that got rekt in Africa and then coming to the Ukraine to get rekt again by those same Africans lol

"Грады" группировки нанесли массированный удар по опорникам украинских боевиков на Авдеевском направлении

Отступающие подразделения ВСУ заняли позиции в одной из лесополос. Обнаружив их, разведка передала координаты скопления сил противника, после чего расчеты РСЗО нанесли по ним сокрушительный удар.

The "Grads" of the group dealt a massive blow to the strongholds of Ukrainian militants in the Avdiivka direction. The retreating units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces took up positions in one of the forest belts. Having discovered them, reconnaissance transmitted the coordinates of the concentration of enemy forces, after which the MLRS crews dealt a crushing blow to them. Link

Shows what a clusterfuck the retreat of the AFU from Adveevka was that there are still stragglers in the area.

And the best for last: war doggo and catto for 21 March 2024.

 

[Fapcop]

Bro never heard about WWII
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Lol! Just like Afghanistan, eh?

And who’s going to pay for it exactly? I don’t see a President Trump signing an executive order for a new Marshall plan. The EU can’t afford it either.

I suppose the kholkhols can always rely on their greatest export: Ukrainian pornstars, but while you may be able to pay some fat Indian construction workers with blowjobs, good luck trying that to pay for materials.

Unclear. Its considered a "big" airforce in part because it has alot of aircraft and helicopters of questionable use in its inventory. Their ok fighters are the home-built Dassault Rafale. I don't think they have had much of a combat history to know how well they would do. One source says that they have about 141 of them between army and navy.

The pilots and support groups would be trained to a much higher level than anyone in Ukraine. But they would have the same problems Ukraine does in that any kind of close air support on the frontlines would be almost impossible because of anti-aircraft defenses. The Russians would also escalate the air war in various ways if a country like France were to directly intervene.

They also have around seven airborne radar control planes. That would provide the capability for a far more coordinated air campaign in Ukraine than the Ukrainians have been capable of. If they could keep them from being shot down.

But I just can't see it happening. I don't think there is any political will or consensus to take France directly into war in Ukraine. Macron talking about it is one thing, but actually taking the country into war would be really difficult.

France has enough problems as it is, without being dragged into a war in Ukraine.

The will to war is very low. A recent study in Germany showed that only 30-40% would bother to take to arms IF THE COUNTRY WAS ATTACKED, which really speak volumes.

I reckon a similar study in France would yield similar results.

Who would have thought that importing foreigners, and stashing them in ghettos getting survival tier-gibs for generations, could result in your population not giving a fuck about defending the country?!

 

[Male Idiot]

Goyim unwilling to fight for their vichy style vassal lords that want to troon out the kids, import unlimited 3rd world and call them heckin rayciss nazirinoes when they grumble that heating got too expensive?

Westo-shlomo, here is a surprise news, occupied nations aren't keen on fighting for the occupiers.

 

[bread n circuses]

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I hate when Ameripig liberals slobber over Tolkien.

“The bigger things get the smaller and duller or flatter the globe gets. It is getting to be all one blasted little provincial suburb. When they have introduced American sanitation, morale-pep, feminism, and mass production throughout the Near East, Middle East, Far East, U.S.S.R., the Pampas, el Gran Chaco, the Danubian Basin, Equatorial Africa, Hirther Further and Inner Mumbo-land, Gondhwannaland, Lhasas, and the villages of darkest Berkshire, how happy we shall be. At any rate it ought to cut down travel. There will be nowhere to go. So people will (I opine) go all the faster.”

This is what he thought of your gay empire.

 

[blackjack101]

OK France I will stop with the surrender jokes, no need to kill off a young generation asking themselves why they enlisted to die for some 3rd world shithole.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

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OK France I will stop with the surrender jokes, no need to kill off a young generation asking themselves why they enlisted to die for some 3rd world shithole.

60 thousand idiots fighting for a government that is literally raping and replacing them with worthless sub saharans

 

[The giant penis of doom]

for some 3rd world shithole.

Ukraine is very much a second world shithole turned/trying to become a first world shithole though.

 

[Rubick]

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They best add a zero to that or not bother.

 

[Midwit]

Then what the fuck are Romanians?

Jawas.

no need to kill off a young generation asking themselves why they enlisted to die for some 3rd world shithole

Hopefully they never actually get there, and if they do it I hope that the French people end up viewing it as the miserable waste of life that it is and that it starts something big. This may end up turning into France's second Vietnam.