ANTIFA / Antifascist Action / Antifaschistische Aktion - The anti-fascist gang with fascist tendencies

[AnOminous]

It must be a major culture shock going on trial in a country where the whole state doesn't bend over backwards to let Antifa off the hook for political violence. I hope the Hungarian courts give them their ten years.

Generally extradition is a strictly formal matter, and in this case, Hungary has jurisdiction and legitimate charges to bring. I hope they don't diplomatically cuck on this.

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

Generally extradition is a strictly formal matter, and in this case, Hungary has jurisdiction and legitimate charges to bring. I hope they don't diplomatically cuck on this.

It already started.

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source in German

tl;dr the original prosecutor handling this case fucked up, the higher ranked guys are pissed and took the case over. They won't hand them over to the Hungarians.

 

[curecanti88]

If you read Days of Rage, that seemed to be the pattern with the 60's-70's era radicals as well.

That's how it always was. Markus Wolf was the East German spymaster; among his other jobs was helping establish communist groups in the West. In his dealings with these groups he came to regard them as "spolied hysterical children of the upper middle class."

But it goes back further. All the French"intellectuals" who laid the groundwork for all the different forms of socialism were aristocrats or nobles. Marx and Engles were quite well off. Kropotkin was a damned prince. It's people who experience no real day-to-day struggle trying to have some oppression because the human mind needs something to fight against in order to find meaning.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

tl;dr the original prosecutor handling this case fucked up, the higher ranked guys are pissed and took the case over. They won't hand them over to the Hungarians.

Dumbasses. When your citizens travel to other countries specifically to commit acts of violence to serve a political cause you need to stop protecting them because at the point you're condoning them and their actions.

Fucking Germans.

 

[TomClancy'sSpinningCorpse]

When your citizens travel to other countries specifically to commit acts of violence to serve a political cause

One would think that this fits the criteria of international terrorism.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

One would think that this fits the criteria of international terrorism.

International lunchtime rowdies

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

One would think that this fits the criteria of international terrorism.

Borderline, especially given their target finding abilities tend to be terrible and they refuse to admit or acknowledge it.

 

[Flexo]

That's how it always was. Markus Wolf was the East German spymaster; among his other jobs was helping establish communist groups in the West. In his dealings with these groups he came to regard them as "spolied hysterical children of the upper middle class."

But it goes back further. All the French"intellectuals" who laid the groundwork for all the different forms of socialism were aristocrats or nobles. Marx and Engles were quite well off. Kropotkin was a damned prince. It's people who experience no real day-to-day struggle trying to have some oppression because the human mind needs something to fight against in order to find meaning.

This was obvious the moment you read that line about "farming in the morning, poetry in the evening."

LoL sorry but no. Your evening poetry is about to be interrupted by a cow giving birth because Nature DGAF about your timetables.

Farming isn't quite the backbreaking never ending hellscape some make it out to be (unless you want to end modern methods and go back to old fashioned "organic" methods) but it's also not something you do "casually" and have enough food to sustain a family.

 

[LeChampion1992]

So apparently as a new update from Andy NGO.

Apparently an Antifa member posted a manifesto saying which targets are acceptable in a mass shooting.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1767623916506186101

And the archive of course.

https://archive.is/TarSD

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Antifaggots don't have the balls to actually shoot anyone, instead they go out and fedpost asking others to do it for them.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Antifaggots don't have the balls to actually shoot anyone, instead they go out and fedpost asking others to do it for them.

Do you not remember Michael Reinhold in 2020. Yeah the left will get violent in fact expect it to be worse.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Do you not remember Michael Reinhold in 2020. Yeah the left will get violent in fact expect it to be worse.

Yeah, but take note, that's usually in hard-blue strongholds where they rarely if ever face prosecution.

(I'm still a bit bemused the feds were willing to go after him, even if Trump was still running things.)

 

[curecanti88]

Yeah, but take note, that's usually in hard-blue strongholds where they rarely if ever face prosecution.

(I'm still a bit bemused the feds were willing to go after him, even if Trump was still running things.)

It's because he got out of line and was no longer a useful idiot.

Trannyfa and their ideological allies in power (limp-wristed leftoid politicians in urban centers) both see each other as useful idiots to accomplish their goals, but both groups fail to realize that neither is capable of truly controlling the other.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

It's because he got out of line and was no longer a useful idiot.

Trannyfa and their ideological allies in power (limp-wristed leftoid politicians in urban centers) both see each other as useful idiots to accomplish their goals, but both groups fail to realize that neither is capable of truly controlling the other.

One one group fail to realize then they'll back stabbed and thrown under the bus when they have no need for them anymore and no I don't talk of the leftoid politicians.

 

[RX-78]

One one group fail to realize then they'll back stabbed and thrown under the bus when they have no need for them anymore and no I don't talk of the leftoid politicians.

Do you really think it will be that simple though? The golem has begun acting on its own, and trying to kill it will be very costly to its former handlers.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Do you really think it will be that simple though? The golem has begun acting on its own, and trying to kill it will be very costly to its former handlers.

They're lucky then golems are so naive or karma decided to take care of them like Joseph Rosenbaum who shouted "shoot me n**" and in some way, he got his wish granted.

Do you not remember Michael Reinhold in 2020. Yeah the left will get violent in fact expect it to be worse.

I remember him a bit, now he might chat downstairs with Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber.

 

[glue eater]

I'm in my 30s, so I guess I qualify as an oldfag at least to zoomies. I have had a fascination with political extremes for at least half my life. Idk if anyone even has emotional investment in this shit, but I have noticed both far-left and far-right have gotten a lot more violent since the 00s. I remember when like a decade ago it was considered news when an anarchist punched a police horse during anti-government rally. But in 2024 extremists are travelling to Kurdistan and Ukraine to get battlefield experience and start hoarding bombs and plotting to kill people when they come back. This would be completely unheard of just a couple of years ago. And of course both extremes radicalize one another in turn; "Well if anarchists/nazis can shoot people, why can't we?" sort of logic.

Sorry about rambling, but it kind of ties into the matter of my post. Second antifa mass murderer wannabe within a short time.

Jacob Graham: Left-wing anarchist jailed for 13 years over terror offences after declaring he wanted to kill at least 50 people​

The security services uncovered Jacob Graham's activity as part of an investigation into the purchase of chemicals online, it can be disclosed.

A left-wing anarchist has been jailed for 13 years for preparing acts of terrorism by compiling and sharing a bomb-making manual, after declaring he wanted to kill at least 50 people.

Jacob Graham, 20, from Norris Green, Liverpool, dedicated his manual, called the "Freedom Encyclopaedia", to "misfits, social nobodies, anarchists, [and] terrorists past and future, who want to fight for freedom against the government".

The judge said the college student was a "dangerous young man", adding that Graham described himself "as the first UK home-grown terrorist".

The security services uncovered Graham's activity as part of an investigation into the purchase of chemicals online, it can be disclosed.

When they raided the home he shared with his mother and sister, they discovered he had filmed bomb-making experiments in his back garden and buried supplies in a secret woodland hide in Formby, Merseyside.

In a document called "My Plan", Graham wrote he wanted to kill at least 50 people by attacking government buildings and politicians' houses.

He also made 138 videos, to be released on the day of an attack, in which he demonstrated explosives and talked about "Judgement Day" and "standing up for working-class people".

On a wall in his bedroom, Graham had printed out a picture of a car bomb exploding with the words: "Make politicians afraid to start their cars again."

'Destro the Destroyer'


Graham, a computer science student, used the name "Destro the Destroyer" and communicated with like-minded extremists using a gaming platform called Discord.

On another platform called Telegram, he exchanged messages with others who shared his hatred of government in groups called Earth Militia, Total Earth Liberation and Neo Luddite Action.

Sentencing him to 13 years in a young offenders institution, with five years on extended licence, the judge, Mr Justice Goose, said those who knew Graham believed he was an "ordinary young man" with an interest in fireworks, the military and outdoor pursuits.

"In reality, however, you are a dangerous young man, you described yourself as the first UK home-grown terrorist," the judge added.

Graham was the administrator for a number of chatrooms on the encrypted Telegram app, including one called Total Earth Liberation Group, with 150 members, into which he shared his bomb-making manual.

Graham told police he was "left-wing" but "more like an anarchist", adding: "I don't like the idea of a central control and I don't really like the monarchy."

His ideal government would be the size of "Merseyside or Liverpool", he said, adding he supported the Green Party and was an "environmentalist" who did not like the way "corporations act and how they damage the Earth".

He was found guilty by a jury on 23 February of one count of the preparation of terrorist acts, four counts of possession of information for terrorist purposes and two of dissemination of a terrorist publication, between May 2022 and May 2023.

Graham was cleared of one count of preparation of terrorist acts, following the five-week trial.

"I think it is fair to say I was quite anti-government," he told his trial.

"I didn't agree with the idea of it - the way certain things were handled, the pandemic, the cost of living. I didn't agree with a group of small people being able to make decisions that affect a mass."

The court heard Graham came to idolise an American terrorist called Theodore Kaczynski - known as the Unabomber - after watching a Netflix series called Manhunt, and pledged to "finish what he started".

From a remote cabin in Montana, Kaczynski carried out a 17-year mail bombing campaign, in which he targeted technology academics at universities, killing three people and injuring 23.

In his document "My Plan", which Graham started in May 2022, he stated that he was planning a bombing campaign that would end in a shooting spree.

"I am going to attack government buildings, politicians [sic] houses, mass murder those who think it is ok to hide their wrong doings [sic] behind money and power but you cannot hide from me. I am aiming for at least 50 deceased and more injured. Any more is a blessing," he wrote.

"I have constant anger, I am a ticking timebomb. I am not sorry for nothing."

Graham made video diaries and said in one: "I've got everything I need to start my revolution."

'Most of us can't afford to heat our homes... there needs to be someone to fix this'

In a video on 21 June, Graham took out a machete with a red handle and tapped the blade, saying: "Can't end my life yet, I have so much carnage to commit."

In another video made in his bedroom on 9 August, he said: "If terrorism is standing up for what you think is right, standing up for the working class people of this country, most of us can't afford to heat our homes or afford food, there needs to be someone to fix this problem. It is my responsibility to do this."

He added: "I will be a homegrown terrorist because I was born on British soil. If they want to call me a justice warrior or a hero, call me that. If they want to call me scum, call me that because I won't be here to listen to all of it."

In another video he threatened to attack Hugh Baird College, which he attended, saying: "I'm f****** ready, f****** bring it, I don't care, I'll kill every single last one of them."

Graham had downloaded a compendium of terrorist publications including the Mujahideen Handbook and the White Resistance Manual, which he stored in a folder called "Alexandria" after the fabled ancient library.

He told his trial he felt like a character in a James Bond or Mission Impossible film or The Last Of Us, a post-apocalyptic TV show.

He said he was "doomsday prepping" for "some sort of possible invasion, civil war, martial law, natural disasters, solar flares, floods, things like that."

To cap it all off; Antifa loses his shirt.

Fencepost: Kind of bitchmade you need two guys to beat an antifa, but again, if you walk around declaring you wanna kill nazis, you're kind of asking for it.

 

[jrose4]

I have noticed both far-left and far-right have gotten a lot more violent since the 00s.

I wouldn't say that they've gotten more violent per se, but rather that they're more publicized. ARA would go at it with the Klan or NSM pretty frequently back then, and people have been fighting with groups like YPG/AZOV for over a decade at this point. It's just that these incidents were only covered on the local news or niche web blogs.

Since the growth of social media (particularly mobile), it's become a lot easier to publish and catalog these kinds of things, as well as for random people to access it. Nowadays, there are dozens of Twitter accounts and Telegram channels like ouest casual or antifa squads that are built around antifas or nationalists getting their asses kicked.

 

[glue eater]

I wouldn't say that they've gotten more violent per se, but rather that they're more publicized. ARA would go at it with the Klan or NSM pretty frequently back then, and people have been fighting with groups like YPG/AZOV for over a decade at this point. It's just that these incidents were only covered on the local news or niche web blogs.

Since the growth of social media (particularly mobile), it's become a lot easier to publish and catalog these kinds of things, as well as for random people to access it. Nowadays, there are dozens of Twitter accounts and Telegram channels like ouest casual or antifa squads that are built around antifas or nationalists getting their asses kicked.

For sure the antifas and nazis have always beaten one another, but the nakedly terroristic accelerationism only became popular after the people radicalized by Unite the Right's failure started looking for an alternative to tiki torch marching and embraced Siege. Accelerationism existed prior to this point, but the terrorist plots/murders happened post-UTR.

Again, far right terrorism existed earlier, but groups like Combat 18 loved talking the talk, but didn't really walk the walk. First C18 act of terror, Walter Lubcke's assassination happened in 2019.

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

Idk if anyone even has emotional investment in this shit, but I have noticed both far-left and far-right have gotten a lot more violent since the 00s.

Maybe in your country or maybe you just notice it more now than some years ago. And thanks to the internet you will hear about acts of violence committed by [insert faction] from everywhere around the world. And thanks to the outrage-industry you will hear about every shit everywhere bc it is very important to know as a [insert nationality x] that some guy in [insert country y] tried to do this or that or killed a few [insert victim group xy]. I'm a bit sarcastic here but for real, what the fuck do I, living in my German shithole, need to know that like, idk, some Japanese fascist killed of some niggers bc he hates niggers? Why the fuck do I need to know about some Greek anarchists burning down a local police station? Why the fuck do I need to know about Islamists in Somalia? What value does this information provide to me or my life? Absolutely zero bc I have forgotten about the next day if not even the same day. That's rhetoric question bc I know the answers and why but objectively speaking that's no information nobody needs to know.

The situation about that guy you posted about is a bit schizo. On one side, what did he do? Ramble online and build some bombs (?) but on the other side he hadn't acted out bc he got caught before he could act.

A left-wing anarchist has been jailed for 13 years for preparing acts of terrorism by compiling and sharing a bomb-making manual, after declaring he wanted to kill at least 50 people.

He was found guilty by a jury on 23 February of one count of the preparation of terrorist acts, four counts of possession of information for terrorist purposes and two of dissemination of a terrorist publication, between May 2022 and May 2023.

Ok, sounds like he didn't even had build bombs so technically he got sentenced for words in the internet (the threats) and media (bomb making manuals) he had. Not going to excuse that guy or judging about the sentence but there is still a difference between talking about doing shit and actually doing shit. And I don't want to speculate about if he really was going to act or if he was just a big mouth. You never know with people but individuals have done the most heinous and insane shit for decades now bc of whatever ideology. But again, what actual value has this information for my life now that I know some whacky British lefty talked about bombing shit in England?

I don't know enough about other countries how things are there. Of course I know some things here and there but what I know and how things are actually might be can and verly likely differs vastly. Speaking for my country, nah, things haven't got more extreme. Lefties and Nazis planing shit or actually doing shit is kind of normal. Some nazi friendly pub get's burned down here, some Antifa gets his teeth kicked in there, in between some Nazis are getting raided and somewhere someone torches th power line to a Tesla fabric. Shit happens. All the time. And we live in the age of easily accessable information, provided by many foul players.