Opinion The West has a deviancy problem - Our moral confusion is proving suicidal

The West has a deviancy problem Our moral confusion is proving suicidal

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Ayaan Hirsi Ali

March 21, 2024 5 mins



When and why did American life become so coarse, amoral and ungovernable? In his classic 1993 essay, “Defining Deviancy Down”, the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan offered a semantic explanation. He concluded that, as the amount of deviant behaviour increased beyond the levels the community can “afford to recognise”, we have been redefining deviancy so as to exempt conduct we used to stigmatise, while also quietly raising the “normal” level in categories where behaviour is now abnormal by any earlier standard. The reasons behind this, he said, were altruism, opportunism and denial — but the result was the same: an acceptance of mental pathology, broken families and crime as a fact of life.

In that same summer, Charles Krauthammer responded to Senator Moynihan with a speech at the American Enterprise Institute. He acknowledged Senator Moynihan’s point but said it was only one side of the story. Deviancy was defined down for one category of society: the lower classes and black communities. For the middle classes, who are overwhelmingly white and Christian, the opposite was true. Deviancy was in fact defined up, stigmatising and criminalising behaviour that was previously regarded as normal. In other words, there was a double standard at work.

But Krauthammer went further: he reckoned that this double standard makes us feel good. A society must feel that it is policing its norms by combatting deviancy. And once we have given up fighting it in one section of society, we move to concentrate on another.

This sociological pathology is now pervasive, contributing to the “soft bigotry of low expectations” that forms part of modern identity politics. And, as foreign policy becomes increasingly entangled with the culture war, this pathology has now extended to a new terrain. The result is that the application of progressive moral double-standards is now seen at the level of geopolitics, most specifically over the ongoing Israel-Hamas war. We have produced a discourse in which deviancy is defined up for Jews and Israel, and down for Arabs and Muslims.

Immediately, for instance, it was forgotten that the greatest display of deviancy in this conflict came from Hamas. More than anything, October 7 illustrated in a single day how swift the descent from civilisation to barbarism can be. On that day, the heinous acts themselves were manifested in the massacre of innocent, unarmed and totally unprepared civilians. These were young people at a music festival, many of them peaceniks. Family members were shot, stabbed and mutilated in front of one another. Women were raped, homes were burned, and the perpetrators revelled in their acts. Their GoPro cameras were set to record, for they knew large audiences at home awaited that footage.

Celebrations ensued, not only by Palestinians but also by many Arabs, Muslims, and fellow travellers on Western university campuses. Top university administrators displayed a shocking level of moral confusion in response. The three Women of the Ivies could not even take courage before Congress simply to say: “This is not who we are. We condemn this.”

The ensuing demonisation of Israel for waging what is historically a standard siege, and the relentless calls for a ceasefire, have followed. And these calls have been so effective that now Israel’s great allies in the UK and the US are twisting Israel’s arm to concede. But even without the appeasement of a complete ceasefire, we know full well that it is only a matter of time before Hamas and her helpers reorganise and repeat the atrocities of October 7. We know it because this has been Hamas’s pattern. Attack, provoke a retaliation, complain of disproportionality. Then acquire the world’s sympathy, and negotiate ceasefire, aid, and the time to plan the next attack.

“It is only a matter of time before Hamas and her helpers reorganise and repeat the atrocities of October 7.”

This is only possible due to several common false assumptions about the conduct of this conflict, all of which define deviancy up for Israel and down for Hamas. Chief among these is that Islamic terror is only a monstrous creation of the Israeli Frankenstein. We are frequently told that if Israel continues to pursue her mission to destroy Hamas, then Israel will create the next generation of Islamists and terrorists, not just in the Middle East but across the globe. As a result, Israel should agree to a ceasefire and hold to it even if, as would certainly be the case, the other side does not. But this assumption is plainly false. The overwhelming evidence of the last 75 years is that Islamist extremism is unaffected by what Israel does or fails to do. The extremists are created in the classrooms, sitting rooms, and neighbourhoods of Muslim and Arabs countries, in madrasas and mosques — many of which are half a world away from Israel.

Nevertheless, we are still enjoined to blame Israel for Islamism, with the crimes of the former often personified by its prime minister. A standard refrain has developed that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s actions and failures were the cause of Hamas’s savage attacks. But whatever the truth behind the portrait of Netanyahu as the belligerent, uncompromising, democracy-undermining monster, the trope shifts attention away from the core issue, which is the belligerent uncompromising Palestinian intransigence backed by the Islamic Republic of Iran. Since 1947, the Arabs have remained fixed in their determination to eliminate the state of Israel, in part by preventing peace from ever coming about. Were the failed peace attempts in 1973, 1993, 1995, 1998, 2000 and 2008 all the fault of Netanyahu? Was no Arab agency involved? Take the Oslo Accords and their follow-on at Camp David in 2000. When Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin offered “a separate Palestinian entity short of a state”, and an agreement between Israel and the Palestinian Liberation Organisation, PLO leader Yasser Arafat left the negotiating table.

In a similar vein, we are often told that the classic human dynamic of war and peace does not apply to this conflict. The standard dynamic is that the winner takes all so that a lasting peace can occur. But this logic has never been applied to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Up until 1967, a conflict was waged called the Arab-Israeli war. And Israel won that war, defeating the Arab countries in 1967, and then again six years later. Only at that point was its name changed to the Israel-Palestinian conflict and the territories Israel had acquired in defending itself against aggression were declared to be “occupied” and therefore illegitimate. In war, if there is no winner, and no truce holds, then peace can never prevail.

Amid this moral confusion, though, there are rays of hope. Within a few hours of the October 7 massacre, the Moroccan regime condemned the violence against civilians. The UAE called the event “barbaric and heinous” and demanded that Hamas immediately release the hostages. This is not nothing and it shows that one source of the rot — Gulf funds for indoctrination of Palestinian children — may one day dry up. The United States should help this along by applying the same standards of conduct to Muslims and Jews, the same standards of statecraft to Arab nations, Iran, and Israel. Regimes like the UAE’s need to be helped and rewarded. Conversely, when Arab states promote the death cult of political Islam, they must be condemned and shunned.

Everything eventually ends, but not all things must end in failure. In the West we have a choice to uphold our moral vantage point, or let it crumble away. But in doing so we should recognise that every lowering of standards to appease extremist Arabs and Muslims is racism dressed up as compassion and disdain masquerading as kindness. It is moral confusion and it is dangerous — suicidally so.

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Adapted from Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s 2024 Russell Kirk Lecture delivered at the Heritage Foundation, Washington, D.C., and co-sponsored by Alliance Defending Freedom, on March 12, 2024.

Source : https://unherd.com/2024/03/the-west-has-a-deviancy-problem/

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an UnHerd columnist. She is also a research fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, Founder of the AHA Foundation, and host of The Ayaan Hirsi Ali Podcast. Her new book is Prey: Immigration, Islam, and the Erosion of Women’s Rights.

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Deviancy was defined down for one category of society: the lower classes and black communities. For the middle classes, who are overwhelmingly white and Christian, the opposite was true. Deviancy was in fact defined up, stigmatising and criminalising behaviour that was previously regarded as normal. In other words, there was a double standard at work.
I would be interested to see examples of the latter, i sure can’t think of any . What behaviour is LESS accepted than it was?
We have a shame problem. We got rid of shame. Bad idea.
 
because you live in a longhoused society of pussy faggots who lack the will to actually protect their people or their culture like the muslims do.
I'm not sure if you've noticed, but Habu-Dhabu Poopooskins kill each other more than they kill infidels. And for extremely petty reasons, like blood feuds that go back 2,000 years.

Iran doesn't fight with ISIS because they're the good guys. It's Bloods vs. Crips, Sandland Edition. (And before you say it: that also applies to Israel).
At this point, the American ethnic identity is on its last gasps, replaced with widespread censorship, open protection of criminals and pedophilia, and the industrial scale destruction of national monuments.
All of this was actively pushed by organizations like the ADL.

Given the choice between rampant criminality and systematic child mutilation or a Taliban regime, I'll take the Taliban every day.
I mean, what's the difference?
Just because I speak up against Muslims it doesn't mean I love Jews. Muslims take full advantage of their Jewish enablers. I wouldn't be surprised if they worked hand in hand. I hope you both get wiped from Earth.
I can reason with a Jew, even if I don't trust him. He might even be useful, if he can be kept in his place.

A Muslim will sacrifice me to Allah on a whim.
Imagine having a pfp bragging about being "immune to propaganda" while openly bragging about the fact that you hopped on the neocon bandwagon in the 2000s
Like myself, I'd wager many users of this site were children when GWOT broke out. You would hold that against them?
 
I mean, what's the difference?
The taliban explicitly arose to counter "Bacca Bazi" type boy-fucking and the exploitation by foreign powers for drug traficking.
They're tough on crime and theft, and crack down on glowy fedops from western nations like opium.

Things seen as "objectionable" to the west are keeping women out of public life and banning booze.
Both of these are 100% acceptable to me.
 
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They actually can't because mutts and euros destabilized and bombed the middle east at the behest of israel.
What a stupid cope. Your shitholes would be even worse off if it wasn't for western countries pouring in billions of dollars every single day. You inbred sandnigger kikes simply can''t maintain a civilisation, simple as.
 
You want the meek flabby liberalism that enables you to be a fat hedonistic faggot who eats burgers all day without the risk of being taken advantage of that comes with it.
Yeah, excuse us for wanting the benefits of what makes white societies better and more functional in the first place. I, for one, like having clean drinking water and not living in a shed made of repurposed billboards.

You can have those and not be taken advantage of. All you have to do is be assertive about who gets to enter the country, and not fall for the emotional blackmail.
yeah and they're the fastest growing religion in the world and they're set to take over the west in like 100 years if things don't reverse. Seems like being niggers is working great for them, wypipo should take notes.
Like camel jockeys, niggers also kill each other spontaneously. You won't defend your culture or people if you have the impulse control of a pit bull.

ETA: Have you seen how Muslims act vs. what they profess to believe? They are not virtuous or temperant. They're some of the most flagrantly hypocritical degenerates on the planet. They still love booze, drugs, porn, and jacking off. They just have a litany of reasons why it's okay when they do it (many of them permutations of "Muhammad said so").

At least the West is honest about its hedonism.
 
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For the middle classes, who are overwhelmingly white and Christian, the opposite was true. Deviancy was in fact defined up, stigmatising and criminalising behaviour that was previously regarded as normal.
lmao nigger what
the middle classes are trooning their children

What the fuck kind of language is this?! This is supposed to be an article not a fucking yoga session in LA.
It's an anti-Communist slur, popular enough to have a wikipedia article. The nigra has Communism derangement syndrome and its mutilated vag is thirsty for proletarian cock.
 
Defining Deviancy Down is a indeed a critical concept that so many fail to understand or are completely ignorant of,.and ignoring it has led to so many social ills, from the rise of single motherhood to the troon menace. It does not really have much relevance to the Palestinian conflict oe the overt philosemotosm that has plagued the Anglosphere--on both sides of the pond- for over a century.
 
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It’s a political term traditionally used to describe people sympathetic to communist ideology while not being formal party members

I thought it was a gay new age-y term but apparently it's a translated soviet term that has been around forever:

A fellow traveller (also fellow traveler) is a person who is intellectually sympathetic to the ideology of a political organization, and who co-operates in the organization's politics, without being a formal member.[1] In the early history of the Soviet Union, the Bolshevik revolutionary and Soviet statesman Anatoly Lunacharsky coined the term poputchik ('one who travels the same path') and later it was popularized by Leon Trotsky to identify the vacillating intellectual supporters of the Bolshevik government.[2] It was the political characterisation of the Russian intelligentsiya (writers, academics, and artists) who were philosophically sympathetic to the political, social, and economic goals of the Russian Revolution of 1917, but who did not join the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. The usage of the term poputchik disappeared from political discourse in the Soviet Union during the Stalinist era, but the Western world adopted the English term fellow traveller to identify people who sympathised with the Soviets and with Communism.[1]

In U.S. politics, during the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s, the term fellow traveler was a term for a person who was philosophically sympathetic to Communism, yet was not a formal, "card-carrying member" of the Communist Party USA. In political discourse, the term fellow traveler was applied to intellectuals, academics, and politicians who lent their names and prestige to Communist front organizations.

Also I'm guessing it has made a resurgence because of some gay ass mini-series:

Fellow Travelers is an American historical romance political thriller television miniseries based on the 2007 novel of the same name by Thomas Mallon. Starring Matt Bomer and Jonathan Bailey, it centers on the decades-long romance between two men who first meet during the height of McCarthyism in the 1950s. The series premiered on October 29, 2023, on Showtime following an October 27 release on Paramount+ with Showtime.[1]
 
Or Franco, for that matter. By only focusing on rebuilding Spain, crushing the commies, and not raising a hand against the Western democracies, he was able to stay in power until 1975. Though he still gets treated with guilt by association.
It's funny, because Franco had a hand in creating Spain's tourism industry. I never heard a story about how tourists were harassed by the spanish equivalent of the Gestapo or some other nonsense during that time. Same counts to a huge degree for Mussolini's Italy pre 1938. Yes, both were authoritarian dictatorships, but they were not even close in terms of general oppression that contemporary communist dictatorships or current year clownworld "democracies" easily capable of.
 
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There is something truly ironic about a news article whose subject is about the issues of deviancy, only for it to deviate into a rant about the Israel-Hamas war.

Journalism at its finest.
 
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