Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Gondola Enjoyer]

>US embassy warns US citizens in Russia to stay away from large gatherings
>this happens a couple weeks later
I smell glowniggery.

 

[Betonhaus]

Just to be sure Russia should shut down all oil exports while they investigate this

 

[Rubick]

I hate the glowies as much as anyone but we know nothing yet they just did this.

If it's ISIS. It's CIA.


If it's somehow some freshly new Chechen cell. i'm wondering who sponsored and set it up and how the hell did the Americans knew about it.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

I'm not a gun person, but why are there so many sparks when he shoots? It's coming from the muzzle if I'm not mistaken.

Theory I'm seeing is that these bullets were hand loads and they were loaded too hot.

Steel cased ammo tend to have their bullets made with copper washed steel jackets instead of actual copper jackets, it's cheaper. Those make sparks when shot.
it's stupid soft steel but the boomer fudds like to talk about how it makes it penetrate armor better. They are right when they sperg about range safety though, the sparks starting fires and shrapnel splashing back.

This is looking like a really bad shooting. Not implying there's ever a good one but 100+ casualities being reported.

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All true.

Another reason for a sparky barrel is a beat to shit barrel. Eg..one with tens KF thousands of rounds through it aka a cheap rifle that's been through multiple hands until it gets to Junaid the Jihadi.

 

[AskeDead]

It’s Muslims

 

[Overly Serious]

Chechens have done stuff like this before. Wouldn't be surprised if it's a repeat. If it were even suspected at this point to be Ukraine-linked, I'd think Russia would immediately say so.

I'm not so sure. Russia through the whole of this war have shown an atypical tendency towards measuring twice, cutting once. Statements sure - that's necessary to reassure people but I think they'll want to know what is going on better before announcing anything. Unless they already do. Which fwiw, is also a counter to anybody going full tinfoil hat on this and saying False Flag by Russia, of which I'm sure there'll be some on Reddit. If you do a False Flag you want your narrative lined up and ready to go.

I don't see much political gain here for anybody. No cui bono that hints at some conspiracy. Russian State doesn't need to galvanise the population for anything, CIA have the willingness and connections but I don't really see what it benefits the West. I shouldn't comment this early on in events but to me a lack of some gain to any state smacks of people who genuinely hate and just want to make Russians suffer. Which is either Ukies (they have form and motivated people) or a non-state group. If it is Western intelligence backed then the only thing I can think of would be some wildly optimistic idea that acts like this will terrorise the Russian populace into wanting peace. Or is just some wild payback. I don't know - feels more like non-state actors or opportunistic Ukie attack as they have previously done things like bomb marketplaces.

Having written that whole paragraph I think in retrospect I'll just shut up. It's too early to know unless someone has claimed responsibility already.

 

[Booby Jones]

Are the mythological stories of Russia's response to terrorism embellished or am I gonna see some yuge retaliation?
Hard to tell what is legit and what's dumb propoganda/hollywood/vidya tropes when it comes to Russia

 

[PhoBingas]

They are all wearing long black beards as well.

I've seen some reports online that it's radical salfist Chechens aligned with Ukraine.

 

[Pustus]

I have heard rumors that Russia was cracking down on islamic extremist in the southern parts of the country. It wouldn't surprise me if this is reprisal. It could be glowies definitely but I am going to assume mussies as of now. Especially since they have the trademark religion of peace beards.

 

[Boglim Enthusiast]

If it's somehow some freshly new Chechen cell. i'm wondering who sponsored and set it up and how the hell did the Americans knew about it.

It's my understanding that if US intellegence picks up anything terrorist related picking up in a country they share it with that government and issue this notice for citizens.

The US Embassy in my country did this like a year ago but nothing transpired, however I could be wrong as they have done some down right retarded shit through the ages.

 

[Rubick]

I don't see much political gain here for anybody. No cui bono that hints at some conspiracy. Russian State doesn't need to galvanise the population for anything, CIA have the willingness and connections but I don't really see what it benefits the West. I shouldn't comment this early on in events but to me a lack of some gain to any state smacks of people who genuinely hate and just want to make Russians suffer. Which is either Ukies (they have form and motivated people) or a non-state group. If it is Western intelligence backed then the only thing I can think of would be some wildly optimistic idea that acts like this will terrorise the Russian populace into wanting peace. Or is just some wild payback. I don't know - feels more like non-state actors or opportunistic Ukie attack as they have previously done things like bomb marketplaces.

Even if it's Ukrainian intelligence that sponsored and supplied this terror cell. It's certainly something Americans knew about and no doubt approved it. As Ukrainians don't take a shit without Uncles Sam's say so.

It's my understanding that if US intellegence picks up anything terrorist related picking up in a country they share it with that government and issue this notice for citizens.

So somehow American intelligence picked up info on a terror cell which may or may not be a fresh cell inside of Russia. Sooner from the looks of it then Russia's own intelligence did ?

 

[Betonhaus]

Are the mythological stories of Russia's response to terrorism embellished or am I gonna see some yuge retaliation?
Hard to tell what is legit and what's dumb propoganda/hollywood/vidya tropes when it comes to Russia

That sounds like something that's historically true, but today's Russia is a lot more civilized under Putin. It will try to find out exactly what happened and exact precise consequences.

There are some parts of the government that want to go more violent, is it possible this is an attempt to whip them up on a frenzy so they try to take over and cause instability?

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Russia through the whole of this war have shown an atypical tendency towards measuring twice, cutting once.

Except for the whole, you know, quickly winning part of the war. When it's been back-and-forth warfare over small amounts of territory, punctuated by periodic Russian victories that push the lines slowly westward, I don't think you can characterize Russia's stance as this.

Still, you make good points, which is why I would say it's Chechens (or Muslims, generally). It could be a pissed off terrorist cell from some shithole in eastern Russia, I guess, or some Middle Eastern group that is against Russia's support for Assad. But generally this seems more like a non-state group than Ukrainians, just from the fact that it's pure terrorism and death without any seeming strategic motive.

 

[Don Yagon]

just from the fact that it's pure terrorism and death without any seeming strategic motive

So was the artillery attack on Belgorod.

 

[The giant penis of doom]

My favourite quote from the other thread.

It's very impractical and frankly pointless for Ukrainians to do this. Putting their lives on the line to likely die themselves for the sake of massacring civilians?

Dude what, they do that all the time. They had like three totally pointless excursions in Crimea, aiming at civilians, and attacking Belgorod is nothing but killing civilians.
This one looks like some kind of towel people, but still.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

So was the artillery attack on Belgorod.

It's a city on a militarized border with Ukraine. If Russian kill squads started shooting up Ukrainian elementary schools on the Polish border, that would be more analogous.

 

[The Ancestor]

One of the shooters has been arrested apparently and hopefully

https://x.com/ranatells/status/1771255422634037343?s=46&t=FIDmUM3hcWXWfcCYAAo_uQ

 

[LikeAStone 2.0]

People who shoot up places are faggots.

Hand-to-hand is the only honorable solution.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

This is looking like a really bad shooting. Not implying there's ever a good one but 100+ casualities being reported.

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I think this calls for more gun control and an assault rifle ban in Russia. Oh, wait....

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-neutralized-isis-cell-plotting-attack-moscow-synagogue-2024-03-07/

ISIS may have decided to do this to retaliate against Russia for this.