Euro migrant crisis

So I missed the last few pages but did anyone post the story about the two migrants from Syria who gave alcohol and cocaine to a 15 year old to fuck her but she overdosed so they dumped her body in a stairwell and she died?

I'm so glad these people are granted asylum


They weren't even kept in jail they were released lol
 
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So I missed the last few pages but did anyone post the story about the two migrants from Morocco who gave alcohol and cocaine to a 15 year old to fuck her but she overdosed so they dumped her body in a stairwell and she died?

I'm so glad these people are granted asylum

Links, goy.
 
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here: I don't think building a "Fortress Europe" is a solution for anything. At this moment in history, we've got a humongous amount of refugees all over the globe. Obviously, the problems resulting in this huge influx of refugees are mostly of these countrys' own making, so yeah, technically "it isn't our problem".

However, I don't see the dilemma as a nationalistic vs internationalistic one, or even as a progressive vs consercative one. Instead, I think it's iessentially a deeply moral dilemma.

As a matter of fact, I'm German. For me, there's no question if the fucktards who molested those women in Cologne on New Year's Eve or any other idiots commiting crimes while being granted asylum in my country should be deported or permanently imprisoned; because they definitely should. And that's coming from someone who could be described as "progressive" in some ways.

There's no arguing that a country can only accept a given number of people either; the one million people Germany granted asylum are without a doubt close to the limits of capacity; and the government as without a doubt made some mistakes during the chaos of mid-2015 as well.

That being said, these idiots are definitely the minority. As proven by multiple articles in respectable newspapers (for example http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/refugees-crime-rumors/480171/ , there's a multitude of German ones as well if anyone of you actually speaks German) and statistics provided by Germany's Federal Crime Police Agency, only a small minority of refugees commits crimes.

Also, we need to keep in mind that these people run from the same people we see as the enemies. The terror of the Islamic State and al-Assad would with absolute certainty drive me out of Syria as well (keep in mind, I'm talking about the war refugees here, not "economic refugees"). And yet, we mistake these people for the enemies, because some Islamic State members slip over the borders along with them. Guess what, if we had closed the borders, ISIS would still have found a way to smuggle their people in. All but one known members of the Brussels terror cell involved in the attacks in Brussels and Paris were European nationals.

And that's where it boils down to the moral part: can we as the "civilised Western countries" really deny people the basic necessity of safety and freedom? In all of the European Union member states' constitutions, the human rights that are valid for all people, not just citizens, are established. To me, upholding these rights and considering this a moral duty, is not a progressive stance in itself; it's a deeply conservative stance in that it stays true to the core of Western civilization. Here in Germany, right-wing parties always talk about the "Christian core culture", in which the migrants don't fit in. I'm sorry, but I can't see anything remotely Christian in leaving people in need rot in hell.
 
Wow what a turbocuck, people like this really make me hope Hungary gets less of "civilised western values" and more of "conservative russian values" .

I do not want to belong to the same strain of civilisation as you. If such pathetic loosers believing every bit of liberal propaganda are what the west is, than it is clearly no longer worthy of existence and I do not want to be a part of it.

http://hungarytoday.hu/news/press-b...udapest-killing-89-people-terror-attack-67039

European nationals my ass.
 
Wow what a turbocuck, people like this really make me hope Hungary gets less of "civilised western values" and more of "conservative russian values" .

I do not want to belong to the same strain of civilisation as you. If such pathetic loosers believing every bit of liberal propaganda are what the west is, than it is clearly no longer worthy of existence and I do not want to be a part of it.

http://hungarytoday.hu/news/press-b...udapest-killing-89-people-terror-attack-67039

European nationals my ass.
Lol, Russia has no values, other than getting wasted on aftershave and driving like an extra from Mad Max. Also, who the fuck cares about Hungary, they're the rape babies of Slavs and Turks.
 
Wow what a turbocuck, people like this really make me hope Hungary gets less of "civilised western values" and more of "conservative russian values" .

I do not want to belong to the same strain of civilisation as you. If such pathetic loosers believing every bit of liberal propaganda are what the west is, than it is clearly no longer worthy of existence and I do not want to be a part of it.

http://hungarytoday.hu/news/press-b...udapest-killing-89-people-terror-attack-67039

European nationals my ass.
You are unironically against western values like freedom of expression and movement, while using the medium which helped spread said freedom over the whole globe and invented in this very culture. You, Sir, are a buffoon.

About the "every bit of liberal propaganda": I quoted multiple independent sources, among them a statistic made by the government. Of course, you could say, that the whole government is infiltrated by liberals, the Jews, the Illuminati, whatever as well. But as soon as you do that, every further argument becomes irrelevant, as you can just deny everything. You know what? We might be surrounded by invisible purple unicorns as well, but unfortunately, as long as you can't prove it, your fantasy stays a fantasy.
 
You are unironically against western values like freedom of expression and movement, while using the medium which helped spread said freedom over the whole globe and invented in this very culture. You, Sir, are a buffoon.

About the "every bit of liberal propaganda": I quoted multiple independent sources, among them a statistic made by the government. Of course, you could say, that the whole government is infiltrated by liberals, the Jews, the Illuminati, whatever as well. But as soon as you do that, every further argument becomes irrelevant, as you can just deny everything. You know what? We might be surrounded by invisible purple unicorns as well, but unfortunately, as long as you can't prove it, your fantasy stays a fantasy.

Eastern Europe should trademark the phrase 'Evil Liberal West' because that's what they end every article on.
 
You are unironically against western values like freedom of expression and movement, while using the medium which helped spread said freedom over the whole globe and invented in this very culture. You, Sir, are a buffoon.

About the "every bit of liberal propaganda": I quoted multiple independent sources, among them a statistic made by the government. Of course, you could say, that the whole government is infiltrated by liberals, the Jews, the Illuminati, whatever as well. But as soon as you do that, every further argument becomes irrelevant, as you can just deny everything. You know what? We might be surrounded by invisible purple unicorns as well, but unfortunately, as long as you can't prove it, your fantasy stays a fantasy.
But but SJWas! Muh Putin. Rapeugee cuck Soros!
 
Wow what a turbocuck, people like this really make me hope Hungary gets less of "civilised western values" and more of "conservative russian values" .

I do not want to belong to the same strain of civilisation as you. If such pathetic loosers believing every bit of liberal propaganda are what the west is, than it is clearly no longer worthy of existence and I do not want to be a part of it.

http://hungarytoday.hu/news/press-b...udapest-killing-89-people-terror-attack-67039

European nationals my ass.

Crawl back into your communist hellhole, wannabe ruskie.

I've just finished reading one of the Podesta mails that adress the cultural enrichment of Germany.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/295

I know that the German elite have gone nuts, but fuck me is this depressing! :heart-empty:

I'm not surprised that the younger immigrants are targeting native Germans, but these statistics are incredibly depressing.

A mind-mashing 63% of preschool immigrant children (often 4th generation!) in Berlin's Kreuzberg district speak little or no German and are theoretically inadmissible to an elementary school, reveals Professor of Pedagogy Ali Ucar in Time magazine.

How is this even possible? Did they lock their kids up in the house and never take them outside?

Also, the fact that many of these people are from Turkey and the Balkans speaks to increasingly flimsy excuse of 'saving Syrian refugees.' These people came to Germany or the Netherlands or France without a civil war to threaten them and refuse to integrate despite showing no desire to ever leave the country.
 
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I've just finished reading one of the Podesta mails that adress the cultural enrichment of Germany.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/295

I know that the German elite have gone nuts, but fuck me is this depressing! :heart-empty:
This is literally a highly opinionated e-mail, with cherry-picked statistics. First off, large parts of the articles in the e-mail exclusively mention the situation in Berlin (which is worse than in most other parts), and even among the majority of these articles a lot of "facts" are in fact just opinions. Take this one:

Muslims make up only 9% of Berlin's population, yet account for 70% of young repeat criminals, revealed Berlin public prosecutor Roman Reusch http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-51448987.html. To be more precise, 46% of Berlin's juvenile serial criminals are of Arab descent, while 33% of them have Turkish ancestry http://www.bz-berlin.de/archiv/jugendkriminalitaet-article961342.html. In an un-German display of harsh-truth telling, Reusch said in Der Spiegel that "in parts [of Berlin], the population consist almost exclusively of problem cases." As he tells it, immigrant children as young as six or seven years old turn to crime and grow up to see honest hard-working people as targets - walking sources of easy money. German society is completely powerless in the face of growing ruthless violence and crime. To describe the German police and criminal-justice system as a big joke would be unfair to big jokes. You won't be surprised to hear that the outspoken public prosecutor has meanwhile been sacked from his job and banned from talking to the media.

Reusch is a well-known ultra-hardliner and member of the right-wing AfD's leadership. While it is true, that there are more young migrants commiting crimes than Germans, Arabs are hardly the majority (20.3%, according to the government). Furthermore, as everyone with an agenda, Reusch is jumping to the wrong conclusions here. He suggests, Germany should just throw out these youths (although they're German nationals and weren't born in Turkey! (He suggests that a lot of them can't speak German anyway, as stated in the email too, but he curiously doesn't give any factual information about that, it seems to be just anecdotal wisdom)), although the problem, as the reporter even mentions in the interview, stems, especially in Berlin, from our completely shitty education system. While the numbers for migrant criminals are much lower in other parts of the Republic than in Berlin, Berlin is one of the states with the worst, most discriminatory education systems in Germany. If people grow up without any perspective at all, maybe they're disilluisoned. And maybe our stupid politicians should do something about that, instead of shilling for the AfD, while they're in a position which would require some political independence.

Let's look at some other "facts" in this really informative e-mail, shall we?

Unlike the Multikultis, the German working class cannot block out or distort awful reality and needs to live in the real world. For example, I have a hunch that there are precious few Multikulti converts to be found among German bus drivers
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&feature=related. In another clip, a German bus company spokesman explains that even immigrant pensioners beat up bus drivers. Let me also show you images of a 78-year-old German female shopkeeper hit 50 times in her face by a 14-year-old Bosnian
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dex=2&feature=plcp> &list=UU6G0I-JHFGh94Sr7GRji3Ew&index=2&feature=plcp. The young robber belongs to a family granted asylum by Germany. Heart-warming, don't you think?

Aah, the anecdotal references. This is what I truly love about right-wing extremists and left-wing extremists - they say all media is corrupt and infiltrated by the government and you can't trust any of the "facts" in the newspapers. Who you can trust, you ask? Oh, me of course, because I've read this and that on Facebook and I know this one guy, who told me this and that! Because I am close to the people, you know? I may be unemployed and might not have a high school degree, but I know exactly how the world works!
Newsflash: Just by looking at YouTube videos or sharing dank right-wing/left-wing memes on Facebook, you don't get any closer to any truth at all, fucktard.

Predictably, I could not readily find reliable info on the future ethnic face of Germany. So for demographic clues, let's look at France, which is home to 62 million people, including 6 million Muslims. A Jerusalem Post article http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=170731 and other sources expect France's Muslim community to be the majority within 50 years. "If the low birth rate of indigenous French citizens and the prolific demographic expansion of the existing 6 million Muslims continue," writes the newspaper, "there is every likelihood that in 50 years France would become a predominantly Muslim nation." In actual fact, The Jerusalem Post is being wildly overoptimistic, having completely overlooked a game-changing event: Turkey's probable entry into the EU, which is the herd of pink elephants in the immigration debate.

First and foremost, I love that "predictably". This goddamn socialist shithole government ist back at it again! The EUSSR is literally driving us underground!
And then, they cite a Jerusalem Post article, published in the very country which populace was condemned by their ideological grandfathers. Hilarious.
But kenham, the Jerusalem Post is an independent newspaper! That article thrashes your argument!
Oh well, you braindead evolutionary failure, let's look into the article then.
Interestingly enough, it's a column. It is not a fact-based article, it cites blurry fears of an Israeli worrying about the future of the Jewish community (not the Western civilization!) in France. So where's that surely 100% scientifically proven fact?

Most Jews are extremely depressed and foresee a bleak future for their children in France. They recognize that anti-Semitic forces are gaining strength and greater political influence. Despite the banning of the Islamic veil and intensified efforts to crush Islamic extremism, integration of Muslims into French society has until now been a failure. Besides, if the low birth rate of indigenous French citizens and the prolific demographic expansion of the existing 6 million Muslims continue, there is every likelihood that in 50 years France would become a predominantly Muslim nation.

In this environment, while some Jews will be immigrating to Canada, in the long-term French Jews represent the main source for future aliya and Israeli society will certainly benefit from the input of such high-caliber immigrants.

It's literally one sentence. In a fairly short article, which doesn't give us any numbers whatsoever besides this one, this fucktard picked one sentence out of an obscure column written by a man worried about anti-semites (I wonder who has been known for their anti-semitism for decades...).
Is it just me, or is this fucking comical?
 
Crawl back into your communist hellhole, wannabe ruskie.


How is this even possible? Did they lock their kids up in the house and never take them outside?

Also, the fact that many of these people are from Turkey and the Balkans speaks to increasingly flimsy excuse of 'saving Syrian refugees.' These people came to Germany or the Netherlands or France without a civil war to threaten them and refuse to integrate despite showing no desire to ever leave the country.

It's not, don't worry. Aside from an article from 2000 (since then, Kreuzberg, which was the worst part of Germany back then, has become a quarter for hipsters), where Ucar mentions literally the exact same number (a bit strange that in a district that has evolved so much over the past 16 years, nothing has changed) I have found literally zero evidence for this odd claim. I couldn't even find the Time Magazine article. The only one claiming he appeared in Time Magazine (which I can't really believe) is, guess who? Orca 1000, the guys responsible for this e-mail themselves!
 
This very much seems damage control. One million immigrants coming through the doors of a country in one year with no proper vetting or social integration programs is not "nearing capacity" it's a complete trainwreck.

The fact Germany is now voting for the right-wing candidates and parties shows the population is not happy about what is happening there. And I think Merkel will not have a job after the election.

The fact Germany has allied with Facebook over censoring criticism over its immigration policy as well as now groups attempting to name and shame and bully people critical of immigration policy isn't boding well.
 
from our completely shitty education system
It's weird how it seems like every single Western country has a terrible education system that totally fails *group who make up a large number of criminals*. And yet other groups go through those same education systems and don't resort to crime. Almost like there is something more to it than just education being shitty. Nah, it's much more likely that a big old bunch of racists all inexplicably decided to get jobs as teachers at inner city schools.

And then, they cite a Jerusalem Post article, published in the very country which populace was condemned by their ideological grandfathers. Hilarious.
Fuck this pathetic shit, you want to laugh at poor arguments and sourcing go right ahead, but at least have the decency not to follow it up by claiming Germans can't reference Jewish newspapers because of world war 2. Why did you even write all that shit when you could have saved so much time by just calling them nazis in the first place?
 
This very much seems damage control. One million immigrants coming through the doors of a country in one year with no proper vetting or social integration programs is not "nearing capacity" it's a complete trainwreck.

The fact Germany is now voting for the right-wing candidates and parties shows the population is not happy about what is happening there. And I think Merkel will not have a job after the election.

The fact Germany has allied with Facebook over censoring criticism over its immigration policy as well as now groups attempting to name and shame and bully people critical of immigration policy isn't boding well.
I completely agree with you. Without a doubt, Germany has gone to its capacatory limits during this crisis, and as I said before, multiple mistakes have been made.
Also, I completely despise the tendency to censor by the CDU. In a democracy, absolute free speech is the only viable way.
 
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