RU Shooting and blast reported at concert hall near Moscow, Russian agencies say - ISIS Claims Responsibility

March 22 (Reuters) - Shooting broke out at a large concert hall near Moscow on Friday, Russian news agencies quoted emergency services as saying.



RIA news agency said at least three people in camouflage clothing had opened fire at the Crocus City Hall, and that some people had been wounded.

Police had arrived at the scene, RIA said.

Video footage published on Russian social media channels showed chaotic scenes, with a large crowd of concertgoers attempting to flee the hall, followed by gunshots.

Other video footage showed a number of people lying motionless in pools of blood outside the hall

Reuters was unable immediately to verify the footage.

TASS news agency reported an explosion and a fire in the building where the shooting took place.

The Kommersant newspaper posted footage online showing smoke billowing from what it said was the concert venue building.

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[LeChampion1992]

After reading this thread I came to the following conclusion: It should have been 93 A&N regulars instead of civilian Muscovites.

Look I may have my qualms with Russia but I generally think that the Intel agencies are so busy worrying about white supremacy or Ukraine war that we're basically getting caught with our proverbial pants down. Had all the Intel agencies not wasted their time on Maga extremists and right wing populism and Ukraine and focused more on domestic issues this issue wouldn't have happened.

 

[Camel joe]

Inb4 Russia returns to the sandbox if ISIS is responsible

I think theyre a bit busy at the moment

 

[Doctor Love]

Russian narrative seems to be moving towards a "ukraine paid criminals to do this and told them to flee to ukraine afterward"

Looking at the video, the guy seems to be brain-damaged.

I don't speak whatever language he is speaking, but he sounds like he had a stroke. The shivering is pretty weird, too.

 

[Slav Power]

The one thing that'll never fail to amaze me is how this war and the propaganda warfare that followed it have managed to convinced hundreds of thousands of people overnight that it's absolutely okay to spew the most hateful, venomous, vile statements about Russians, to the point of openly stating that committing a mass genocide against them is perfectly fine and morally right, without any inhibitions to stop for a second and think whether or not it's okay to leave such messages in a permanent record that is the Internet.

Because, if I were to take some of the statements made in this very thread:

More dead Russians. We need more dead Russians. I hope they don't stop until we've reached total Zigger death.

Correct. Russians are not people. Killing them is no more wrong than say, gassing cockroaches.

40 dead russians is great, hopefully it increases.

And only change one aspect of them:

More dead Ukrainians. We need more dead Ukrainians. I hope they don't stop until we've reached total Hohol death.

Correct. Ukrainians are not people. Killing them is no more wrong than say, gassing cockroaches.

40 dead ukrainians is great, hopefully it increases.

Well, now that's just unacceptable. Yet it's fine to spew such comments towards this one nationality, and only right after February 24th 2022, because before that date no one would be able to type shit like this out with such ease, with people giving them asspats over it.

And who's to say that in a few years it'll stop being acceptable, and all those comments wishing for Russians to be genocided will remain online, maybe even with your real name attached to it because you didn't bother to think ahead of time while posting it on Facebook, and now you'll be held accountable by others for those statements?

Though let's be fair, it was never about Russians specifically. It's just that when everyone was allowed to spew hatred towards them without any repercussions, all the people that were already mentally unstable and deeply hateful simply used this as a vessel to express their hatred without being judged for it. If it was an acceptance of antisemitism, the same people would spew shit that would make Himmler and Goebbels proud.

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

Of being bullshit, obviously. If you're dishonest and manipulative about this topic, how is one to know which other topics you are willing to deceive people about?

Please point out exactly where I am being dishonest. I have receipts for every statement I made so far.

You prove that point by regurgitating more braindead propaganda in the second part of your post. Any attack that hits Russian civilians is evil Ukronazis shelling them on purpose. Never friendly fire or collateral damage. At the same time obvious deliberate attacks on Ukrainian civilians by the Russian government are completely ignored.

I will give you an example. This is a Czech "Vampire" missile provided to Ukraine by Czechia as part of their war support program. It was fired at Belgorod. You can clearly see in the video there are no military targets, vehicles or buildings nearby, only a sports ground.

Are you telling me this was "friendly fire" or "collateral damage"?

Spoiler: Click

And believe me when I say there is more where it came from. This is Kiwifarms, and the motto of Kiwifarms is "archive everything".

Now give me a receipt for obvious deliberate attacks on Ukrainian civilians by the Russian government if you are as free of bias as you claim. Preferably the one that is not Ukrainian propaganda but is clear and factual. Thank you.

 

[mlanguishi]

https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/status/1771496785145376774

They're saying this is one of the shooters, shaking in terror being looked over. I've seen some saying he said he did it for money, who knows what's going on. If that's really one of them why would you even try to escape. They are going to torture the fuck out of him in the FSB basement in Lubyanka.

ETA

https://twitter.com/the_curious_111/status/1771496164623544698

Telegram, it's always Telegram

I knew those offers to shooting up places for money on TG were bad news..

 

[Molag Bal]

It's a pity that Putin doesn't have his teeth anymore.
I remember many years ago seeing him be asked about why there weren't any terrorist attacks in Russia, and he said that if a Muslim terrorist attack happened in Russia, every muslim in Russia would be dead half an hour later.
But I'm pretty sure if they were rounding up mudskins and taking them out, we'd hear about it within minutes.

 

[KiwiFuzz2]

New York Times:

Live Updates: Death Toll Rises to 115 in Moscow Concert Hall Attack​

The Kremlin said that all four assailants were in custody. U.S. officials attributed the attack, one of the deadliest in Russia in decades, to ISIS-K, a branch of Islamic State that has been active in Iran and Afghanistan.

The Islamic State, through an affiliated news agency, claimed responsibility on Friday for the attack. U.S. security officials said they believed it was carried out by a branch of the terrorist group known as the Islamic State in Khorasan, or ISIS-K, which has been active in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran.

But there were some signs that Russia might try to pin blame for the attack on Ukraine, despite the claim of responsibility. The F.S.B., Russia’s domestic intelligence agency, issued a statement on Saturday saying that the attackers had planned to escape to Ukraine “and had contacts on the Ukrainian side,” according to the Russian state media. Kyiv has denied any involvement and American officials have said there is no evidence that Ukraine played a role.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/03/23/world/moscow-shooting

https://archive.ph/IYE5L

 

[otherdispair]

Please point out exactly where I am being dishonest. I have receipts for every statement I made so far.


I will give you an example. This is a Czech "Vampire" missile provided to Ukraine by Czechia as part of their war support program. It was fired at Belgorod. You can clearly see in the video there are no military targets, vehicles or buildings nearby, only a sports ground.

Are you telling me this was "friendly fire" or "collateral damage"?

Spoiler: Click

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And believe me when I say there is more where it came from. This is Kiwifarms, and the motto of Kiwifarms is "archive everything".

Now give me a receipt for obvious deliberate attacks on Ukrainian civilians by the Russian government if you are as free of bias as you claim. Preferably the one that is not Ukrainian propaganda but is clear and factual. Thank you.

I somehow doubt that if you wanted to hurt Russian civilians you'd shoot at the middle of a park instead of a building full of them. But yes if this was intentional I condemn it and those responsible should be held accountable.
Will you condemn the bombing of the Mariupol opera that had children written outside of it and was full of women and children.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

So you don't contest that the russians blew up a building full of women and children while it was clearly written just outside that there where children and that is you idea of "actively attempting to prevent collateral damage and civilian deaths".

@otherdispair lrn2quote

I don't remember that case off the top of my head so I can't confirm your statement that there were women and children in the building. The word "children" spray-painted on the parking lot doesn't prove that children were there. Ukrainians were known to be using malls to hide their tanks/rocket launchers, were using schools to garrison troops.

In any case, your gotcha is a single case which doesn't prove anything - it's just an emotional argument meant to shut down any discussion by smugfacing and going "oh yeah, well look at this picture"

Enjoy yourself.

If you're dishonest and manipulative about this topic, how is one to know which other topics you are willing to deceive people about? You prove that point by regurgitating more braindead propaganda in the second part of your post.

Projection much?

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

Will you condemn the bombing of the Mariupol opera that had children written outside of it and was full of women and children.

Absolutely. This is a war crime and an absolutely abhorrent practice that must be condemned by any human being regardless of their national or political affiliation.

This conflict is a nightmarish quagmire of death I hoped none of us would see in our lifetimes. I had friends in Ukraine (still alive, some moved to Europe, some moved to Russia) before it started, so this conflict is personal despite my best attempts to keep it out. Whoever was the architect behind it, be it one person or several, Russian, Ukrainian or American, they are approaching the definition of "evil" in its purest, almost biblical form.

 

[World in Scarlet]

Please point out exactly where I am being dishonest.

If you want another example how about the DARVO shit you do where Russia is only ever defending itself against actions that are a response to Russian aggression in the first place?

Are you telling me this was "friendly fire" or "collateral damage"?

I don't know, do you know where the strike took place?

Now give me a receipt for obvious deliberate attacks on Ukrainian civilians by the Russian government if you are as free of bias as you claim. Preferably the one that is not Ukrainian propaganda but is clear and factual. Thank you.

The attacks on the Ukrainian energy grid and grain export facilities.

 

[otherdispair]

@otherdispair lrn2quote

I don't remember that case off the top of my head so I can't confirm your statement that there were women and children in the building. The word "children" spray-painted on the parking lot doesn't prove that children were there. Ukrainians were known to be using malls to hide their tanks/rocket launchers, were using schools to garrison troops.

In any case, your gotcha is a single case which doesn't prove anything - it's just an emotional argument meant to shut down any discussion by smugfacing and going "oh yeah, well look at this picture"

Enjoy yourself.



Projection much?

it's the most obvious one that's why I bring that one up. I can move on to the cars getting shredded by BMP's at point blank range, the soldiers shooting a guy that just told them directions in the back, the FSB torture in Kherson, torture of POW's and a dozen other cases where it isn't "oh but there could have been hiding shit there".
You claim that Russia is doing it's level best to fight a clean war. You are just getting upset you are getting some push back on your claim that "actively attempting to prevent collateral damage and civilian deaths".

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

If you want another example how about the DARVO shit you do where Russia is only ever defending itself against actions that are a response to Russian aggression in the first place?

Where exactly did I say Russia is only ever defending itself?

I don't know, do you know where the strike took place?

Belgorod, Arkhiereyskaya street. One of the missiles was shot down and landed on a prenatal center.

The attacks on the Ukrainian energy grid and grain export facilities.

Point taken. One might claim these are legitimate targets in a war of attrition, but I will not since both are aimed at punishing the civilians of the defending country. This should be classified as an act of terror and intimidation tactic.

 

[Abraham Lincoln]

They're saying this is one of the shooters, shaking in terror being looked over. I've seen some saying he said he did it for money, who knows what's going on. If that's really one of them why would you even try to escape. They are going to torture the fuck out of him in the FSB basement in Lubyanka.

I guess their Western spy agency handlers betrayed them to die then.

 

[Cascade]

You claim that Russia is doing it's level best to fight a clean war.

"Clean war" is always an oxymoron. You can't get people to kill other people without fuelling their hatred of each other, and sooner or later it will erupt into something far worse than just defeating military targets.

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

"Clean war" is always an oxymoron. You can't get people to kill other people without fuelling their hatred of each other, and sooner or later it will erupt into something far worse than just defeating military targets.

"Eye for an eye and the world goes blind". Most people have forgotten this parable.

 

[Inspector Rex]

Wow, stunning and brave opinion. Yes, the giant country with a giant border has trouble securing border.

So you are assuming the guy who arrived from Turkey walked across the Black Sea? Or border control doesn't work in airports?

 

[World in Scarlet]

Belgorod, Arkhiereyskaya street. One of the missiles was shot down and landed on a prenatal center.

Thanks. If it was shot down, it's not a deliberate attack on civilians though.
That's the issue with these. Some are legitimate misses, some are shot down, some may be deliberate attacks on civilians. Meanwhile Russian air defense missiles have hit Belgorod several times and there's footage of the Russians shelling and bombing border villages to drive out Free Russians. The Russian government claims everything is terrorism and war crimes, including precision attacks on Russian military facilities, so their word is worthless.

Point taken.

There's more than 10k confirmed dead Ukrainian civilians in this war, and that excludes those under Russian occupation. What outrages people over the Belgorod situation is literally an average day in Ukraine.
To make it clear, I too oppose attacks against civilians, but I also understand why others might not care or even cherish seeing them. Regular people cheering on the deaths of Russians is the harvest of Putin's foreign policy. Which has widespread support in Russia.
I find it obnoxious when people ignore the cause of this animosity and pretend "russophobia" is some mysterious malady that affects westerners because they have evil souls or something, instead of a response to and result of Russian imperialism and outrageous statements by Russian government officials and civilians alike.

 

[Abraham Lincoln]

Looks like a NATO glow nigger op

You been proven right lol.

And looking at reactions, I'm sure roughly a quarter to half of A&N probably believes that January 6th wasn't staged by the Western three letter agencies as well.