Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[AfghanBlue]

'NO DOCTOR NO TORY NO TERF
Can tell us what to do with our bodies.'

They can when you literally ask them to, ask them to do it for you, using their own time and expense.

If you want to troon out fine fuck off and do it literally no one is stopping you, you all post diy bathtub hrt links anyway for"activism".
But when you are asking doctors to interfere with children's development using drugs and proceesdures they now know are incredibly harmful to them both physically and psychologically?

Yeah totally they should just full steam ahead listening to whatever insane narc Susi Green of Mermaids style parent who wants their gay sons dick cut off to appeal to their homophobc dad.
Let the Muslims have their daughters in for Female circumcision too, hey its harm reduction! Better than letting them to get an infection on a rushed trip to Egypt. The girls want it, listen, they'll tell you out of their own mouths, they know it's a part of their culture.


The entitlement is fucking insane. They want everything, not just this, every which way around at all times. It's the true, borderline, whatever I say whenever I say it, with no bearing on anything I've previously said, and certainly with no bearing to anything You care about.
Like truth, or safety, or procedures to safeguard these.

The insane hyperliberal amoral capitalist death spiral that these cunts want for every facet of public and private life is grotesque.

They have no perspective on anything further than the end of their pleasure recepting neurons, let alone as far as the end of the nose on their mangled faces.

 

[Shotgun Badger]

These people will get invited to participate in one of, if not the biggest franchise of all time, under the biggest entertainment company in the world, and yet they are fighting against the "system".

The main thing to keep in mind is that he had no acting career at all before trooning, I legitimately think that seeing the opportunity to corner the market on being the proud trans woman diversity hire instead of a boring old white straight male was a major motivator in him going for it.

 

[Tombigbee]

He’s going to start doing “talks” on his acting career. The character he plays in Baldur’s Gate 3 is trans. Because of course they are.

He’s so extra the way he addresses the audience about his “career.” Imo he should assume there are people in his audience with more experience with acting than he has. Also he openly tells them that he’s essentially using them as a springboard for greener pastures. It’s just kind of awkward.

Regarding Star Wars he says he’s not going to talk about it in this stream because it’s always a possibility that he will be edited out of the show altogether lol. So he will do these “talks” after the shows in question premiere.

 

[AssignedEva]

To celebrate 500 chubetastic pages and entering into our fourth year of "Abigail", I bit the bullet and finally did decide to go back and collate all of Ollie's worst outfits. I'll mostly stick to his YouTube videos and then only include any other outfits that I specifically remember. Ratings out of 10 are graded on a curve (a high ranking is "good compared to everything else he's worn", not "good", because there's no point ranking everything 1/10 - 3/10).

Spoiler: 2021

Coming Out

This was Ollie's debut as trans. Supposedly the model of respectable femininity. The dress kind of looks like one of the ones you used to see hanging up on a mannequin rack in Camden Market, but appears to have actually been by "HotSquash London" and retailed for £125 (he wanted to get his money's worth, so also did a photoshoot in it). The necklace is cheap and ugly, and there's a coat with it that's kind of mumsy (but fine). We need an Ollie baseline so I'm going to give it 5/10. It's suitable enough office attire and if a trans woman in my office wore it I'd think "she made an effort". plus he actually wore tights with it. If only Ollie dressed this sensibly in all his videos.

Capital Punishment

Ollie's first foray into evening dresses. The dress itself is fine although I don't like seeing his bare foot jammed into a strappy heel. Where he fumbles this is the addition of a cape, two ruffs (if you look closely you'll see they're not part of the dress) and some weird opera gloves with roses on that are missing a thumb (I'm inclined to think he took the thumbs off because his hands didn't fit into them). And of course the stupid two face makeup. Actively bad, 3/10

Unremarkable. The off the shoulder top under a blazer looks weird. 4/10

Jordan Peterson

This lace jumpsuit was horrible to look at when he stood up in a production still. No woman would ever wear it with lace opera gloves. It's a costume, and a bad one. 3/10

This was less unpleasant to look at, but it looked more stupid. The silver venus symbol painted on his forehead didn't help matters. I don't know why he keeps wearing lace gloves. 3/10

His infamous TERF character. The blazer doesn't fit and he should have worn a top under it. The wig is horrible. That said, it's mostly just mediocre. 4/10

Ignorance & Censorship

The poncho cardigan and turtleneck looks comfy. I could see someone who worked in an interesting bookshop dressing like this. Almost a 5/10 but it loses half a point for the weird tights and nothing on the bottom half. 4.5/10

This one made me uncomfortable because it feels like the AGP jumped out, he was way too giddy in this outfit and kept sitting like that. However, I will concede this is a successful "sexy Riddler" costume (although again with the gloves) and just on the basis of that I feel like I have to give it a 3.5/10 just because it is a fancy dress outfit that manages to achieve what it's trying to do.

Trans Pride 2021

Not a YouTube outfit, but I couldn't not mention it. Uncomfortably short and doesn't fit. Golden laurel crown belies the fact he thought he was becoming voice of the movement. Wouldn't want to be around him if there was any risk of a gusty breeze. Also he actually wore this out rather than just in a studio. 2.5/10

Social Constructs

The "sexy mechanic" outfit. Unlike "sexy riddler" this one doesn't work, mostly because of the stupid stripper shoes. For once he's wearing a top under something and it doesn't go. The pleather jumpsuit really highlights his male frame. 3/10

This pleather playsuit is actively worse. 2.5/10

I think this is supposed to be like "uptown girl". I guess the corduroy playsuit is okay but it's hiked up on him in a way that once again is a bit uncomfortable, and the bedazzled belt is ugly. What is up with this guy and gloves? He had actual driving gloves on in the first costume but he's once again wearing lace opera gloves. 3/10

The Nigella Lawson video

His "BTS" look. I suppose the point is to look off duty but he just looks sort of dishevelled. Cardigan does look cosy though. 4.5/10

I like the apron and the top, and he's actually done something semi reasonable with his hair. He spackled on the makeup too heavy but he was shooting in black and white. The whole dynamic with Nigella was horribly uncomfortable but I'm going to just judge the look. 6/10

Kelly Slaughter's first appearance. You can't see it in the video but that blazer is being worn as a blazer dress, and it was horrifically short. The extensions are bad. 4/10

Islamophobia

Just his intro look. It doesn't fit right. 4.5/10 just because it's mostly unremarkable.

The "sexy Russian spy" outfit. That dress made several reappearances where it was horrendous, but it looks ok sitting down. The coat is nice, the ubiquitous opera gloves are higher quality and have a feathers, and he's done something alright with his hair. It sort of works as a costume. 6/10

I hate everything about this. Again with the patterned tights. I think it's supposed to be sort of sexy Annie Lennox androgyny, but it looks more like a sight gag where a man's trousers fall down to reveal he's a secret transvestite. 3/10
The TERF character reappears but it's the same outfit.

Violence and Protest

Not actually Britannia. It's so costumey that it's not bad. His letdowns are the gold makeup that's actively unflattering, and one of his helmet's cheekpieces keeps flapping distractingly. That said, a lot of work went into this and it's mostly successful so 5/10

What the fuck. No. 2.5/10

TERF character got a slight upgrade, the blazer fits better now. Unfortunately that means more chest is exposed so still 4/10

Common themes: patterned tights, lacey gloves. High points: His Nigella and Russian Spy outfits. Low points: His trans pride outfit, the weird green "mechanic" playsuit and his shitty steampunk lady costume.

Spoiler: 2022

FFS Reveal Video

Unobjectionable. 5/10

Highly objectionable. 1.5/10

This one doesn't even make sense. The top half is uncomfortably like "mutton dressed as lamb", he seems to be larping as a teenage girl. The bottom half are entirely different shiny silver leggings and boots, so he deliberately changed into them and didn't just throw on the top half. That said still not as bad as the mentally ill robot outfit, so 3/10

Transhumanism

The thread hit the roof when this outfit was revealed. It still has the power to stir revulsion. I'd blocked out the insane hair and medical support stockings. This was the start of his dalliance with fetishwear. I actually recall the camera swooping around him to show his Hank Hill ass but it appears he's subsequently edited that out, which has allowed my sanity to hold on by a single thread. 1/10

Genuinely refreshing after that last image. I guess it's fine as an emo costume. 4.5/10

Kelly Slaughter again. Somehow worse this time. 3.5/10

The Only Photo Of Ollie As A Woman On Getty Images

Red carpet event for Rainbow Honours 2022. That dress would be nice if it fit, but it does not. The brooch is a good addition but I'm reminded about how he bangs on about buying it off Kim Petras. I'm assuming he's wearing strappy heels but it looks like he's in flip flops. 4/10

The Hidden Rules of Modern Society

Could be a lot worse. 6/10

That horrible lace jumpsuit again, and this time he's barefoot. I think the hair is supposed to be riffing off Minnie Riperton, but it just looks like he got dragged backwards through a bouquet of baby's breath. 3/10

Art

I think it's the same dress from the red carpet, but Brian's pinned it so it looks like it fits better. Looks ok. 5.5/10

What the fuck is this? I know what it's trying to be, but it isn't achieving that. He's wearing a bloody tea cosy on his head. I challenge anyone to find something nice to say about this. 1/10

Where did he even get shutter shades in 2022? 2.5/10

It's perilously short. But if you pretend the beads are being worn as a necklace, and the big puffy thing was more orange, it'd actually be kinda cool. 7/10

I Emailed The NHS A Bunch

The WWII outfit is successful at what it's trying to do, but it doesn't exactly flatter him. 6/10

I get it, it's a blown up lab coat over scrubs, but the slashes don't really make sense. 4/10

His "I am very serious" outfit. Unobjectionable. 5/10

Common themes: trying to get a bit more avant garde. Low points: Wearing a tea cosy on his head, dressing as a silver robot person and his first ever latex costume. High points: One of his art outfits.

Spoiler: 2023

The Prince

Maybe this was more 2022, but the trailer for The Prince was 2023. I think the idea was to dress as "trans" as possible, which he achieved. Unpleasant to look at, 3/10.

The One With Finnster In It

Speaking of dressing as trans as possible. 2.5/10

Obviously this is terrible. You could maybe make the point he has fully realised the concept of a red latex nun, but then he painted his face with random computer chip shapes and then later turned the outfit into something nonsensical. I don't like knowing this is probably related to that hex sex cult. 1/10

I think I've hit the image cap as it's not letting me attach any more. You get the idea. The lowest rated one was going to be him wrapped in yellow caution tape because that is not an outfit but a cognitohazard and therefore would get a 0/10.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Yes it's very similar to the 1980s era wording by socialists around "children's liberation"
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Which of course meant "let us nonce kids".

Like I get the whole pedophila thing but why does this guy capitalize the Left?

Also, who in the world would want this pamphlet after reading this lmao

 

[AfghanBlue]

not "good", because there's no point ranking everything 1/10 - 3/10).

I think it would be funny to only mark it in tiny decimal increments between 1-3/10..but in fairness you very rarely went above 3.

This is a stellar achievement though, and appreciated hike through the autogyne badlands. Pop a squat and enjoy a capri-sun or anything of your choosing.

I'd say I mostly agree, apart from don't hate the tea cosy one as much, because it just looks like some Playdays shit.
(also stopped being physically able to stomach his videos around then, so have less idea how badly it was failing at what it was attempting)
Most importantly though, you can't tell his terrible body shape. The first few images of that terrible "classy" (?! Lol) coming out ensemble... His shape is incredible. He looks (again) like a great white shark-huge head and shoulders, then tapering in, but watch out! We've got the huge hands and feet.

I suppose the glove obsession is to cover these big old hands, he probably realised that applying big talons to them just made them look even more disturbing huge on camera.
Which is notable in that, he only bothers with disguising them on camera where he has to actively look at them with the whole picture in focus - he is happy to have the acrylics in normal day to day life, for the purposes of the blurred visual of them on his Tube.

 

[Soyjak Enjoyer]

I saw this screenshot spreading, was deleted right away but there's an archive link: archive.is/ZPJv0

 

[Silence of the Troons]

Olly already seems to be aware of it.
https://nitter.poast.org/bIoodbirds/status/1772484211494068230#m
https://archive.is/wip/WmyQL

 

[AfghanBlue]

I saw this screenshot spreading, was deleted right away but there's an archive link: archive.is/ZPJv0

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Oh LOL.
Meltdown expected!
Sector: TUBE.

 

[under_scores]

I've never clicked watch on a thread faster—twice.

 

[BlastMonk]

Since we're on the topic of people learning about Oliver being a rapist. It's currently being dimissed as a '4chan thing'. Since Contra saying he was raped by a leftist british youtuber could be anyone and certainly doesn't point to Ollie.

 

[Peenix]

I actually recall the camera swooping around him to show his Hank Hill ass but it appears he's subsequently edited that out

That shot is still in there. It's instrumental to showing the viewer that you can never see a hammer in it's entirety at once.

Spoiler: Now keep your eyes on the hammer *Camera starts swooping*

Site's being weird about uploading a GIF, but I think you get the idea

 

[AssignedEva]

I saw this screenshot spreading, was deleted right away but there's an archive link: archive.is/ZPJv0

I like to think that my penance of reviewing his outfits brought a bountiful drama harvest like a rain dance, this is fantastic to have on page 500.

Contra tweeted this out as well - a mandala where the whole point is the impermanence. I think she was banking on it getting screenshotted.
Meanwhile /tttt/ is having an absolute meltdown, and are convinced their Schizosisters have indeed been burdened with the gift of prophecy. Everyone in the relevant thread is reacting to these posts as Contra (some are convinced and some are shitposting)


There's also multiple posts complaining about the "Choob Defence Force" but anyway the Contrapoints subreddit is heavily locked down and there's no posts about it there or on /r/breadtube (or /r/philosophytube for that matter) although it has made it to /r/internetdrama.
The real coup here is that Ollie's probably going to get a flurry of random asks about this and then it'll keep popping up. He's terribly bitter about Contra rejecting him when he came out, I imagine Contra naming the beast will cut deep when he discovers it.

 

[AfghanBlue]

I wonder if this is gonna be what breaks Tube out of his passive aggressive notice me comments... Everywhere every few months, and into doing something insane like flying to America and banging down Contrapoints door.

You know that is he's obsessive enough to constantly publicly reference Contra, in private he will have been sending breezy emails or texts trying to initiate contact again "now that the air has cleared", and trying that every few months perhaps.
And actually "formally" citing in his latest bibliography..

He will be freaking out and furious but also possibly sort of thrilled-not happy thrilled... But full of excitement - in a narc chaos way. Parrott-Pai has noticed me!
He keeps his cards kind of close to his chest, in that he will throw out a little comment here or there, but not in a way that allows anyone a right if reply, so he wont dare do a statement or come back anywhere that will encourage people to discuss him where he can't control the narrative.
I really hope he goes on a psycho mission to baltimore. So very much.

8.53am. Tube steps off the.. Tube at Heathrow, fuming.
What next

Scrap that, he probably got a taxi haha

 

[Peenix]

or /r/philosophytube for that matter

There was one up like an hour ago but I neglected to archive it, he's usually slow like molasses at deleting shit on his sub so I thought there would be time for that later. It got a decent bit of traction too, lots of people going "Umm this is their personal drama?"

There is no war in Ba Sing Se

 

[Anti Snigger]

I saw this screenshot spreading, was deleted right away but there's an archive link: archive.is/ZPJv0

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>troon complaining about a man envying someone’s identity and nature

 

[Flaggy but One]

There's also multiple posts complaining about the "Choob Defence Force" but anyway the Contrapoints subreddit is heavily locked down and there's no posts about it there or on /r/breadtube (or /r/philosophytube for that matter) although it has made it to /r/internetdrama.
The real coup here is that Ollie's probably going to get a flurry of random asks about this and then it'll keep popping up. He's terribly bitter about Contra rejecting him when he came out, I imagine Contra naming the beast will cut deep when he discovers it.

Surprisingly there's an unlocked thread on r/youtubedrama, unlocked atm anyway. Lots of updooted comments saying that well yes, choob obviously stole contra's shtick.

https://archive.is/ELPcq

 

[Anteros]

I saw this screenshot spreading, was deleted right away but there's an archive link: archive.is/ZPJv0

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Yes Contra, let it all out, give us some long-awaited, JUICY, SCANDALOUS ENTERTAINMENT

But honestly and seriously do we think he tweeted this during a bad day and then deleted it instantly because he's a pussy/instantly regretted it/expected Twitter to drag him for it? Or was this intentional and he's setting the mood for something more accusatory by dropping little "hints" like this that instantly disappear from his account?

I honestly have no idea and can see it going both ways with Contra, leaning more towards the former explanation myself.

But I really hope it's the latter though, both of them have become boring as fuck and a troon gladiator fight rn would just be... chef's kiss

 

[BlastMonk]

Or was this intentional and he's setting the mood for something more accusatory by dropping little "hints" like this that instantly disappear from his account?

God I hope so, I hope its a huge viral event of Oliver being dragged as a rapist scumbag, and then HBO and Disney will do an emergency edit to remove his small scenes they filmed with him. He'll be the worst part of HotD and I will never forgive him for inserting himself into GRRM kino

 

[AfghanBlue]

God I hope so, I hope its a huge viral event of Oliver being dragged as a rapist scumbag, and then HBO and Disney will do an emergency edit to remove his small scenes they filmed with him. He'll be the worst part of HotD and I will never forgive him for inserting himself into GRRM kino

Noooooo I want all of his parts to be edited out on merit alone! Which he is more than capable of.

Remember clunking troons- Casting depts and editing depts are not the same thing! One has DEI quotas, one has standards.

Then, after that acting world humiliation he can have his safety net of the internet ruined, for pudding.
Actually either can happen first, whichever.