ForeverKailyn / SincerelyKailyn / kmwbeauty / Kailyn Marie Hughes/Wilcher - Hey Guyths!

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But remember guys, she totally doesn't get acne anymore!!!

Honestly, water could be her friend.... maybe one day.
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When I saw that one where she said "the acne is from my birth control. It started the day I started the new birth control" I about died. Bitch. It is from not washing your gob, not from some new pill! (It might be CONTRIBUTED TO by her pill, but lets be honest. It was bad skin to begin with.) And why the hell did she change birth control if the one she was on was working so well for her?!? Isn't this like, the third or fourth change she has made in BC in the last 2 years? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

She reminds me of this gal I saw years ago on tv, had this HUGE chin. It was some kind of bone growth, but she didnt want to fix it. Massive chin, for days. Reminds me of the "Happy Easter Baiiii!" Video she and Momma Wheelchair did. Does she have a jaw deformity of some kind?
 
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Dude, I'm shitforbrains when it comes to makeup, but that last video has me cringing. I can tell right away she's using too dark a color for her foundation (I can SEE WHERE THE FOUNDATION ENDS AND HER SKIN BEGINS), probably too much, her blush application is...weird....especially like how she scrunched her whole face up for the sample size makeup mist.

And does she honestly need foundation AND concealed AND blemish stuff AND powder? That seems like overkill and part of the cause for her terrible skin
 
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On the 'beauty guru' moniker or whatever the label is that she's pretending to and doesn't fit, as a male I have zero frame of reference as to exactly what Kailyn is falsely claiming. Like can anybody lay out a set of conditions that one has to meet to be truly considered an expert in this kind of thing that she's failed to achieve that disqualifies her from accurately claiming otherwise?

I'm guessing one is; "Don't have a kiwi thread more than 100 pages long on your makeup applications deriding your technique," but what are the others she hasn't done yet, a big enough following of how many, a show on the beauty and style network of a cable system, not living at home with your mom, what? I know this is a noob question but I really have no idea what it would take for me to open this thread and be like, "This is just a hit job on Failyn, she's obviously being ridiculed because we're all jealous of her on here."
 
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On the 'beauty guru' moniker or whatever the label is that she's pretending to and doesn't fit, as a male I have zero frame of reference as to exactly what Kailyn is falsely claiming. Like can anybody lay out a set of conditions that one has to meet to be truly considered an expert in this kind of thing that she's failed to achieve that disqualifies her from accurately claiming otherwise?

I'm guessing one is; "Don't have a kiwi thread more than 100 pages long on your makeup applications deriding your technique," but what are the others she hasn't done yet, a big enough following of how many, a show on the beauty and style network of a cable system, not living at home with your mom, what? I know this is a noob question but I really have no idea what it would take for me to open this thread and be like, "This is just a hit job on Failyn, she's obviously being ridiculed because we're all jealous of her on here."
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To me, there are a few basic requirements for being a good, succesful beauty blogger:
  • Flattering application
  • Knowledge of a variety of techniques
  • Varying looks between tutorials
  • Some knowledge of colour theory
  • If they're professionals, then good makeup application on other people (where appropriate, not all beauty gurus do this)
  • They can give and take constructive criticism
  • They can easily explain their choices
  • Being easy to listen to or watch
There are probably more, but these ones stand out in my head. As far as I can tell, Kailyn fails on each requirement. Personally speaking, whether they live at home or how many subscribers or followers they have doesn't matter to me. If they're good at what they do, then things like that don't occur to me.
 
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On the 'beauty guru' moniker or whatever the label is that she's pretending to and doesn't fit, as a male I have zero frame of reference as to exactly what Kailyn is falsely claiming. Like can anybody lay out a set of conditions that one has to meet to be truly considered an expert in this kind of thing that she's failed to achieve that disqualifies her from accurately claiming otherwise?

I'm guessing one is; "Don't have a kiwi thread more than 100 pages long on your makeup applications deriding your technique," but what are the others she hasn't done yet, a big enough following of how many, a show on the beauty and style network of a cable system, not living at home with your mom, what? I know this is a noob question but I really have no idea what it would take for me to open this thread and be like, "This is just a hit job on Failyn, she's obviously being ridiculed because we're all jealous of her on here."
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Being a Beauty Guru requires a crazy amount of work, you're expected to always be on top of the latest products, trends, and techniques, all of which are constantly changing. Kailyn, on the other hand, has used the same products and the same techniques for almost a decade.

As @bloodcoffee said, Kailyn also doesn't have a very good grasp on color theory. Color theory basically means knowing which colors will look good together and be flattering to your facial features. Kailyn uses colors without any real regard for how they'll look on her or when they're paired with other colors, so we get makeup looks where she's wearing neon yellow eyeshadow with lavender lipstick.

Beauty Gurus also put a ton of effort into their videos. They spend hours editing and some will even hire professional video editors so their videos look as good as possible. They'll research the products they show off in their videos and give their take on how the products work for them. Kailyn has almost no editing in her videos and when she's tried she's fucked it up, in a couple of videos she somehow put a gray filter over everything that made her look like she was putting on makeup in the fog. She leaves in stuff that should be edited out (ums and uhs, looking around for products she's misplaced on her desk, stumbling over words when she reads the label). Her reviews don't really tell you how she likes the products and just consist of comments like "it's good" or "I'm obsessed."
 
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So just on the color theory thing, and I agree with you both on your points that she's lacking in them and someone who was really a beauty guru would exhibit a majority if not all of those things mentioned which are a reasonable bar of expectations to set, do you think she can't even name all the colors of the color wheel without a cheat pallet of eye shadow to look at to check off of, or do you think she can't explain which colors are complimentary/supplementary of others so the relationships between them are where she has no clue? Because they're both 3rd grade art class level stuff but the former would be more shocking to me if she can't do it than the latter.
 
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do you think she can't even name all the colors of the color wheel without a cheat pallet of eye shadow to look at to check off of, or do you think she can't explain which colors are complimentary/supplementary of others so the relationships between them are where she has no clue? Because they're both 3rd grade art class level stuff but the former would be more shocking to me if she can't do it than the latter.
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I would bet a lot that Kailyn has no clue what a color wheel is, not to mention which colors are complementary or not. Did she even go to third grade?

Can she tell brown from green and yellow? Sure. And she's learned to copy other beauty gurus and describe things as coppery or shimmery or matte.

But that's the extent of it. She would wear a deep purple eyesahodow on her lid, with a copper in the crease, and a bright shiny red lip and pink checks and send out a snap saying she's loving her makeup today. She wears makeup like somebody's blind great-grandmother.

There is a guru called Vintage or Tacky. She's a big girl who likes to wear bright makeup looks. But hers are lovely, everything goes and it all works. She's large but does ootd and she doesn't get made fun of like others, because she has taste (and is actually pretty.). You can wear a sunset style makeup look, but you have to know color theory, either explicitly or innately. Kalyn doesn't.

But the funniest part is she doesn't know how terrible she is after all these years. She has no idea she's bad at makeup. She gets mad and deletes her social media and goes on rampages and tells lies about why; she randomly bans people, but she does the same thing over and over again, for a decade now. She started out a fail as a beauty guru but the more of her life that slipped out, the more everybody realized she failed everywhere. Now including raising her kid.
 
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I would bet a lot that Kailyn has no clue what a color wheel is, not to mention which colors are complementary or not. . . You can wear a sunset style makeup look, but you have to know color theory, either explicitly or innately. Kalyn doesn't.

But the funniest part is she doesn't know how terrible she is after all these years. She has no idea she's bad at makeup. She gets mad and deletes her social media and goes on rampages and tells lies about why; she randomly bans people, but she does the same thing over and over again, for a decade now. She started out a fail as a beauty guru but the more of her life that slipped out, the more everybody realized she failed everywhere. Now including raising her kid.
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:story: So many lulz. I would say she's barely competent at consistently doing what I would describe generously as a 'taking out-calls on the Vegas strip' look to her face, but yeah, it's never really like complementary of her general appearance usually to me. Personally I would say she needs to go less emphasis on her eyes with makeup, they're kind of weirdly offset from the middle line of her face and emphasis on them just enhances the asymmetry I think, while she can concentrate on her lips which are her nicest feature along with her forehead anatomy, with an overall reduction in how much total product she consistently uses. Now if she's actually taking those out-calls then sure, go gonzo with the stuff and hope for a happy mistake for the best, but day to day she just doesn't need all that eye shadow in the usually contrasting colors to me.

For whoever was asking about the acne, if she's on birth control and she probably should be until Gracie isn't so under stimulated she's delayed developmentally, it could be a by-product of that but I'm sure not sweating enough into open air isn't helping her skin.
 
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On the 'beauty guru' moniker or whatever the label is that she's pretending to and doesn't fit, as a male I have zero frame of reference as to exactly what Kailyn is falsely claiming. Like can anybody lay out a set of conditions that one has to meet to be truly considered an expert in this kind of thing that she's failed to achieve that disqualifies her from accurately claiming otherwise?

I'm guessing one is; "Don't have a kiwi thread more than 100 pages long on your makeup applications deriding your technique," but what are the others she hasn't done yet, a big enough following of how many, a show on the beauty and style network of a cable system, not living at home with your mom, what? I know this is a noob question but I really have no idea what it would take for me to open this thread and be like, "This is just a hit job on Failyn, she's obviously being ridiculed because we're all jealous of her on here."
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Honestly if she had even a small fanbase who unironically used her advice, but I don't think so much as a single person has. MAYBE some poor lost kid who was just learning makeup and didn't know what it should look like. Also I guess there was that one weird girl with the chrenobyl baby who was obsessed with copying her but idk if that counts.
I never really thought about it but it's quite tragic. All these years making these videos and not a single person ever uses them.
 
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Her cuticles, holy shit.
 
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