Clearly you haven't been paying attention to the Ukrainian Nazis that have actually done crimes similar to this, and
worse, going back to
Volynia.
First, get off your high horse about declaring what people do or don't know just because they don't share your view. I've been following events in Ukraine since Maidan with interest. And you should probably recognise my involvement in discussions here on the Farms if nothing else. The fact that I read more than I post, doesn't make me ignorant. One would think the opposite in fact. I'll explain to you
how it is possible that I disagree with you yet can not be ignorant, seeing as you assume the former must mean the latter.
The principle is a simple one: I think this war and the atrocities since and preceding are awful and unlike you I am not divided into a team mentality that wants revenge / equalisation of atrocities to redress that. I want them to stop altogether. In the case of this story which is unproven I fervently hope it is not true. Not hope that it is proven real to gain more ammunition for my PR.
It's that simple. No "haven't been paying attention" required. I simply don't share your mentality. Seeing as you decided to go on about the sort of people I remind you of - so naive, so gullible, so historically unaware that I apparently am, I'll tell you the sort of person you remind me of. All those American colleagues I had who saw events all around the world as a reason for preformative reactions and entertainment. You remind me of a British neighbour I had when the planes hit the WTC who talked about it in the same uninvolved way they would about any other drama on TV. Frankly you remind me, in the way you write, of many of the posters in the pro-Ukraine thread. The same hints of bloodthirst and the same reduction of things to whether they can be used for PR or scoring points on the Internet.
What I think, after reading so many of your posts over the last two years, seeing as you've shared your hypothesis on me, is that you sit far away in New York and a lot of this is entertainment for you and your immediate resort to righteous condescension when someone calls you on it is just your way of masking it, your personal family connections to the region your way of claiming some involvement to justify your cheerleading. Because you have no direct involvement, nothing you do has any direct effect. Your only involvement is, I believe, is indirect arguing on the Internet which is why things are assessed as good or bad PR points to the point it's your first reaction to a story.
Nobody should ever react to an allegation of mass forced involuntary impregnation with 'I hope it's proven true' and someone calling you on that does mean they are "clearly not paying attention".
To you someone not cheerleading makes Ukraine look bad is not being 'on side' and time to chastise them for being clueless history-ignorant dupes. But me, and I'm pretty sure most of us, see this more as a general tragedy largely between two very closely related peoples (often the same peoples as Russians are being conscripted to fight against their brothers from over a map line) engineered by your country and their fawning lapdogs in the UK and German governments. It's ordinary people vs. Western hegemony and their paid-for ultranationalist puppets. That's the reality I see.
So it's not ignorance that leads to a lack of bloodlust in other people's comments. But I'll leave you to return to telling me what I do and do not know and linking me more Wikipedia articles now.
I'm done. A longer comment than I meant but you provoked me.
How are you going to refuel and rearm the F16 after it lands on random Ukrainian highway?
This isn't a video game.
Given Russia's new willingness to blow up energy storage, we can probably add to yours the question of 'with what' are they going to refuel as well. I imagine destroying any supplies sent to fuel these birds would be a high priority as well.
For me a concern is that F-16s are nuclear capable. You could fly one towards the border and fire a nuke at Moscow. Russia can never be certain what payload one might be carrying (though distance flown can restrict the options) so putting F-16's in Ukranian airspace feels like an especially threatening gesture by NATO to me.
