submitted 2 days ago by
LibidinousLB
I have a proposal. This group is intended for people who are contemplating leaving the US, for whatever reasons they want to leave. There is a group of posters here who lay in wait for anyone who suggests they are going to leave because of the Trump situation in the US. They set upon anyone who explains that they want to leave for this (perhaps among several reasons). I've checked, and they do not otherwise (generally) participate positively in the discourse on this subreddit. They are only here to normalize Trump. which they try to do through a handful of standard claims, all of which are nothing but Trump apologia:
- Europe has fascists too!
- Trump didn't do anything last time; he was incompetent so there is nothing to fear
- Nothing terrible has happened in the US For a long time
- Other countries also have problems
- Politics are are terrible reason to leave a country
- Anyone who wants to leave because of Trump and his Project 2025 band of authoritarian Christofascists is over-reacting!
Not only are all of these either provably false, non-germane, or highly personal risk decisions, these posters then often engage each other in long, discursive circle-jerks that end up crowding out whatever (usually pragmatic/utilitarian) question a poster has asked.
These people add nothing to this subreddit. Their opinions on other people's reasons for leaving are meaningless, because almost no one comes here to ask, "should I leave because Trump and his minions scare the shit out of me?" Instead, they come here and say, "Trump and his minions scare the shit out of me! Please help me figure out how to leave." But because the enablers and apologists pile on every American here who suggests that the US isn't "THE GREATEST COUNTY IN THE WORLD IN ALL WAYS!", this subreddit is far, far less useful than it should / could be. So let's moderate and then ban these bad-faith actors. They (like they do everywhere) ruin an otherwise useful community.
