Do you think there is an actual increase in Autistics or is it mostly misdiagnosis/self-diagnosis?

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Individuals who would have died early on in life long ago are today allowed to flourish and reproduce. We are denying our own evolutionary pressures more than we ever have. Our compassion is weakening our species' overall fitness. Or maybe they put chemicals in the water that's turning us into gay retards. idk :gunt:
 
So are you saying by conditioning people to falsely believe they have the 'tism, it muddies the waters for the normies to believe what actual autistics are?
Yeah that would make sense to me. You could call it overdiagnosis, and eliminate any schizo aspect of it, but I think there is something deeper at play, particularly when you consider how conditioned normies are to say "you need therapy", how quickly they are to suggest that someone needs to be reprogrammed to fit better in the society.
And also - how they redefined autism, where it started from non-verbal children who bang their head on the walls, and certainly have some sort of a disorder that prevents them from living a good life - to the autistic "spectrum", where pretty much anyone could find themselves a spot and start thinking there is something wrong with them.

Another reason why I am taking a bit of a schizo angle on it is just looking at zoomers and alphas and considering how they reject the some elements of the society, and how this is considered crazy and sign of autism and being a misfit - but when you think about it, they might be actually much smarter and wise than older generation. And that is very inconvenient for the society, autists are less prone to believe propaganda, or to buy useless crap just because someone on TV told them they need to have it.
E.g. zoomers hatred of answering phones or participating in whole office culture - where they prefer to work from home and interact less with people, especially strangers. They get a lot of heat because of it, but looking at what boomers were like - slaving away for the employer, ruining their families and friendships and creativity, just to make more money and fit in the society better - who's the crazy one? What about recruitment in military - who is more insane, a boomer/gen X signing their literal away for a fictional entity of the government? Or a zoomer that recognizes their life is not worth being wasted on causing harm to other nations and the planet?
Could it be that young autists develop traits like hypersensitivity to stimuli, or difficulties in socializing, because they are subconsciously trying to protect themselves from fitting into the society that can only harm them and squash their humanity and natural curiosity?
 
I feel like there's more Actual Autistics now a days, but mostly because it's no longer a badge of shame to have fucked up retard offspring so anyone with an autistic child feels obligated to harp on about how stressful and difficult it is (so you can all know they're truly a wonderful parent).

If my grandparents had a baby with mental handicaps they'd probably have just thrown them into a river or let them be eaten by wolves or something.

We'll see how things go in another 20+ years when all the 'cute' tism babies grow up and can no longer be cared for.
 
Could it be that young autists develop traits like hypersensitivity to stimuli, or difficulties in socializing, because they are subconsciously trying to protect themselves from fitting into the society that can only harm them and squash their humanity and natural curiosity?
That basically brave new world.
 
I've always found it fascinating that there are people who actively want to be associated with the label of autism, especially when it's teenagers. When I was a teen having autism would have been something deeply embarrassing. When people thought of autism they thought of crash helmet-wearing invalids. You would not have associated yourself with that label if you could help it, and if you did have it then it would not have been something you publicly advertised. Obviously it's better now that people don't see it as something shameful, but it's still weird that it's become almost fashionable among certain demographics.
 
So are you saying by conditioning people to falsely believe they have the 'tism, it muddies the waters for the normies to believe what actual autistics are?
No I think he means people develop the tism as a response to people who expoit social stigma.

ie people who don't respond to peer pressure and don't understand social cues live better off because they isolate/avoid systems put in place by despots which rely on normies to fall in line.

Which is kinda retarded.

imo. tism is a evolutionary response. Longer living individuals >>> brains have more time to develop >>> makes sense that kids born with old adults turn into stoic philosophers who neglect their basic needs to pursue 'the good of the species'...
 
I have an autistic theory about autism, I think it's caused by lack of face to face interaction at a young age, you see it more now because families are more isolated at home and on screens than they were in the past.
This. There's a reason Autism is a spectrum. Autism can be learned, and if you lack social interaction because your life consists of playing a computer game 24/7, you definitely will develop autistic like symptoms. That's part of why young people are so retarded now. They literally cannot speak face to face. Sure, overdiagnosis is a thing, but I think that pales in comparison to the lack of social interaction kids get these days. Especially for the young adults that double down and insist there's nothing wrong being a 24 year old and social life consists of doing nothing but Helldivers.

TLDR - Your vidya habits are making you socially awkward and retarded.
 
I had to get rediagnosed recently because it turned out that one of my old doctors misplaced all of my fucking paperwork a decade ago and during the process I asked the person who was doing the testing what she thought about the rise in autism was. If it was being overdiagnosed, if there was an environmental component to it, or if the tests were just better at picking it up.

She basically explained that, in her professional opinion, it's a combination of all three, but it's one of those things that won't ever be researched, or atleast not for a while because nobody wants to be accused of being the next doctor trying to push the "Vaccines cause autism" line.
 
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The majority of people larping as autists are, unsurprisingly, women. A sort of Munchausen (which mostly affects women). I know a psychologist who says most of the people who go to him claiming they're autists turn out to be people with social anxiety, and when treated, their 'autism' disappears.

Of course, there a lot of actual Aspergers with social anxiety, and this is very common. Autism, schizophrenia, and a couple other conditions come from a cluster of genes more prevalent in hunter-gatherers. These are known to be very shy and avoid eye contact with strangers who don't belong to the tribe. They're not wired to deal with large groups of strangers like in a farmer society. They don't understand all the etiquette, greetings and all that bs. They don't even greet people, they just walk to and talk to whomever they want, there's no point in all that ritual if all the people you know live close to you and are your same clan.

Now, if you removed social anxiety from me, I'd probably be a happy, womanizer kind of Asperger but I'd still be one. Social anxiety alone doesn't explain my intelligence, the way I reason about most things, early brain development and a lot of other traits. I'd probably resemble more my father or brother, who seem low-neurotiticism high-IQ NT the first, and an aspie the second. My grandfather was an grouchy cynical and clever atheist whom I can relate a lot, as well.

I think there's some continuum between Asperger and schizophrenia. John Nash and the Unabomber are good examples. It's hard to know if the schizo-like personality of some Aspergers is natural or is a result of we being rare and living in a society we don't belong and with what we're forced to either assimilate, or go the Diogenes/unabomber/hermit way, and avoid it. Are we schizos or we just feel alienated due to our own way of being?
I once read an interesting claim, that you cannot be really smart unless you're Asperger, bipolar or a paranoid schizophrenic. And it makes sense.
Asperger and schizophrenia enable for greater amount of synapsii (though in the case of schizphrenics these turn in an abnormal way). There's some limitation on how smart can a brain become with the limited cranial capacity. Autists have bigger brains, but this may not be enough to reach IQs, say 130-140. Greater synapsii in the same space is the workaround evolution found to unlock thise extra intelligence.
 
Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQ, all things being taken into account, of any ethnic group, and also the largest numbers of devastating genetic disorders. That can't be unrelated.
Those studies were highly cherrypicked and disregarded forms of intelligence beyond verbal reasoning. I.e. they set out to prove that jews are best at jewing and found it to be true. The genetic ailments in jews is from generations of inbreeding that would make a paki blush.
 
I'm certain it is over diagnosed, given the dietary and lifestyle factors that have changed dramatically in the last 20 years. - Kids are fed sugar in everything now, and they have no attention span because of stupid shit like TikTok and the constant interruption of television/social media advertisements.
One thing I wonder about is whether parental drug use prior to conception play any part. Nearly everyone I know who has an autistic child is someone who I know to have used a lot of recreational drugs.

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Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQ, all things being taken into account, of any ethnic group,
This is not true. Vox Day has conclusively disproven this claim.
 
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I suspect a lot of it is misdiagnoses due to shoving screens in front of kids’ faces as early as possible. Kids are not getting properly socialized at key points in their life. The earlier they get raised by screens, the more fucked up they are and the harder it is to unfuck.
 
it used to be all men had to serve in the military and if they didn’t learn how to get along with others they’d get the shit kicked out of them till they figured it out.
This is what happened to me and why I learned to cook. I get to task focus on the grill, everyone likes you, nobody really comes to bug you. It's better to be the weird guy who shows up with and talks about how he made food than the weird guy who sits on the couch and stares at everyone.

I don't get the push to try to normalize autism though, it's by definition an abnormality. Frankly, learning coping mechanisms and how to mask will serve you a lot better than a vague hope that society will change. In the workplace, you're only protected as a tax write off and as soon as your sperging hurts the bottom line or causes complaints to HR, you WILL get fired.
 
It's both.
I believe it's frequently misdiagnosed. Many people who get the diagnosis simply have a comorbidity of trauma and undersocialization; add in above average IQ and you have an "Asperger's Syndrome" or "Autistic Spectrum Disorder" diagnosis. Same as most ADHD cases, it's a natural response kids have to the extremely unnatural environment of grade school.
Older parents + 99.999% early childhood survival rate don't help. Harsh to say, but if you prevent natural selection you obviously get more fuckups.
There's only so much environmental damage that a human can take in vitro, and especially in vivo.
It's all of this. Especially the first and second points.

Back when research into autism was first being done, one of the predominant theories for its cause was something called "refrigerator mothers" a.k.a. neglectful mothers who didn't show their children any warmth, or affection. Turns out while that's not true for autism, it is true for something called Reactive Attachment Disorder, or RAD for short. The symptoms of that condition overlap a ton with the ones of autism such as poor eye contact, lack of emotion, or empathy, strong attachments to objects, etc.

With the rise of technology, and its plague on society, the fact most of natural selection has gone out the window, and that treating our environment like a shithole is finally coming back to bite us in the ass, more, and more people are raising children who have a higher chance to be disabled either genetically, via poor parenting, by the environment itself in vitro, and horrifyingly, sometimes all of the above.

The rates also gone up because there's been more diagnoses of it in women now like @Android raptor said.
 
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