‘I’m 28. And I’m Scheduled to Die in May.’ - Some right-to-die activists want everyone to have access to euthanasia—even young people with mental illness. Are they also making suicide contagious?

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Zoraya ter Beek, 28, expects to be euthanized in early May.

Her plan, she said, is to be cremated.

“I did not want to burden my partner with having to keep the grave tidy,” ter Beek texted me. “We have not picked an urn yet, but that will be my new house!”

She added an urn emoji after “house!”

Ter Beek, who lives in a little Dutch town near the German border, once had ambitions to become a psychiatrist, but she was never able to muster the will to finish school or start a career. She said she was hobbled by her depression and autism and borderline personality disorder. Now she was tired of living—despite, she said, being in love with her boyfriend, a 40-year-old IT programmer, and living in a nice house with their two cats.

She recalled her psychiatrist telling her that they had tried everything, that “there’s nothing more we can do for you. It’s never gonna get any better.”

At that point, she said, she decided to die. “I was always very clear that if it doesn’t get better, I can’t do this anymore.”

As if to advertise her hopelessness, ter Beek has a tattoo of a “tree of life” on her upper left arm, but “in reverse.”

“Where the tree of life stands for growth and new beginnings,” she texted, “my tree is the opposite. It is losing its leaves, it is dying. And once the tree died, the bird flew out of it. I don’t see it as my soul leaving, but more as myself being freed from life.”

Her liberation, as it were, will take place at her home. “No music,” she said. “I will be going on the couch in the living room.”

She added: “The doctor really takes her time. It is not that they walk in and say: lay down please! Most of the time it is first a cup of coffee to settle the nerves and create a soft atmosphere. Then she asks if I am ready. I will take my place on the couch. She will once again ask if I am sure, and she will start up the procedure and wish me a good journey. Or, in my case, a nice nap, because I hate it if people say, ‘Safe journey.’ I’m not going anywhere.”

Then the doctor will administer a sedative, followed by a drug that will stop ter Beek’s heart.

When she’s dead, a euthanasia review committee will evaluate her death to ensure the doctor adhered to “due care criteria,” and the Dutch government will (almost certainly) declare that the life of Zoraya ter Beek was lawfully ended.

She’s asked her boyfriend to be with her to the very end.

There won’t be any funeral. She doesn’t have much family; she doesn’t think her friends will feel like going. Instead, her boyfriend will scatter her ashes in “a nice spot in the woods” that they have chosen together, she said.

“I’m a little afraid of dying, because it’s the ultimate unknown,” she said. “We don’t really know what’s next—or is there nothing? That’s the scary part.”

Ter Beek is one of a growing number of people across the West choosing to end their lives rather than live in pain. Pain that, in many cases, can be treated.

Typically, when we think of people who are considering assisted suicide, we think of people facing terminal illness. But this new group is suffering from other syndromes—depression or anxiety exacerbated, they say, by economic uncertainty, the climate, social media, and a seemingly limitless array of fears and disappointments.

“I’m seeing euthanasia as some sort of acceptable option brought to the table by physicians, by psychiatrists, when previously it was the ultimate last resort,” Stef Groenewoud, a healthcare ethicist at Theological University Kampen, in the Netherlands, told me. “I see the phenomenon especially in people with psychiatric diseases, and especially young people with psychiatric disorders, where the healthcare professional seems to give up on them more easily than before.”

Theo Boer, a healthcare ethics professor at Protestant Theological University in Groningen, served for a decade on a euthanasia review board in the Netherlands. “I entered the review committee in 2005, and I was there until 2014,” Boer told me. “In those years, I saw the Dutch euthanasia practice evolve from death being a last resort to death being a default option.” He ultimately resigned.

Boer had in mind people like Zoraya ter Beek—who, critics argue, have been tacitly encouraged to kill themselves by laws that destigmatize suicide, a social media culture that glamorizes it, and radical right-to-die activists who insist we should be free to kill ourselves whenever our lives are “complete.”

They have fallen victim, in critics’ eyes, to a kind of suicide contagion.

Statistics suggest these critics have a point.

In 2001, the Netherlands became the first country in the world to make euthanasia legal. Since then, the number of people who increasingly choose to die is startling.

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I think anyone who's pondering becoming An Hero, who has a romantic partner who they plan to put through them becoming An Hero, is extraordinarily selfish.

Do these Leftists (they're almost always leftists) even realize they're part of their own voter base that they're literally destroying by doing this? Far leftism is a nihilistic death cult and this instance is only further proof.
 
BPD self-resolves in most cases in 10 years regardless of treatment. Imagine the state allowing suicide for any other condition that could be said of.
Hardly anyone knows this, let alone most of this board, because the ones you notice are of course the Mommy Dearest nightmares that everyone seems to have a story about.

But given a chance, many of your young women who are miserable and wild with this syndrome do in fact "grow out of it" or maybe better put, grow into better sets of coping skills. Another unpopular fact in our era when everything must be a carved in stone "identity" dictated by Fates before birth.

Literature references for the skeptical:

2010:
All told, 50% of the borderline patients studied achieved a recovery from borderline personality disorder—an outcome that required being symptomatically remitted and having good social and vocational functioning during the past two years. In contrast, 93% of borderline patients attained a symptomatic remission lasting two years and 86% attained a sustained symptomatic remission that lasted four years. In terms of stability of these outcomes, 34% of borderline patients lost their recovery from borderline personality disorder. A similar 30% had a symptomatic recurrence after a two-year long remission but only 15% experienced a symptomatic recurrence after a sustained remission.

2010:
Behaviorally oriented features, such as recurrent breakups, sadism, demandingness, entitlement, regression in treatment, and boundary violations, remitted quickly and were rare at the end of follow-up. The interpersonal features slowest to remit were affective responses to being alone, active caretaking, discomfort with care, and dependency.

2011:
The 10-year course of BPD is characterized by high rates of remission, low rates of relapse, and severe and persistent impairment in social functioning.
(This last bit may explain the trend of many of them "converting" to a middle aged ASD diagnosis if they have the means to obtain one- they probably pass well enough as autistic to a midwit LCSW with no specific neurodevelopmental training.)

Even the girl, interrupted herself is stable, elderly, and complaining about those crazy youths, now.
Do Dutch doctors not take a Hippocratic/Osteopathic oath?
That got nixed all over the West about oh, 50ish years ago- when abortion, explicitly included in the oath as a forbidden form of doing harm- became fashionable. Indeed, what could go wrong, when we start allowing the medicalized murder of unwanted and burdensome human beings?
 
This is EXACTLY what we told you was going to happen and what we feared. Pandora's box has been opened. We must do everything in our power to keep it (mostly) shut in the US until it can be eradicated nationally!

This selfish bitch is going to do this even though she has someone who loves her! Most people spend their life dreading nightmare like this happening out of their control.. I can't even imagine what he feels. The fact that he stuck with someone with borderline personality is courageous enough. (if you don't know.. they take everything very personally.. a look or a simple comment could be read as a very real, personal attack etc etc)
 
This is EXACTLY what we told you was going to happen and what we feared. Pandora's box has been opened. We must do everything in our power to keep it (mostly) shut in the US until it can be eradicated nationally!

This selfish bitch is going to do this even though she has someone who loves her! Most people spend their life dreading nightmare like this happening out of their control.. I can't even imagine what he feels. The fact that he stuck with someone with borderline personality is courageous enough. (if you don't know.. they take everything very personally.. a look or a simple comment could be read as a very real, personal attack etc etc)
He's probably as "woke" as she is, and also probably as damaged/as much of a Cluster B Clusterfuck.
 
do you think she's just baiting again?
I have no problem with someone opting out. You want to kill yourself? Fine, kill yourself. The problem I have is making a doctor push the plunger. He shouldn't be involved in the process at all. Rope and a rafter, suck start a shot gun, drink Drano, trapse in front of a train, just don't make it someone else's responsibility to do the deed.
 
Undiagnosed mental illness is still mental illness.
I suppose saving your squad by jumping on a live grenade is both suicidal and sane, and for a less extreme example, a oldie giving up on the last few months to save their family the care costs.

But not when someone still has a lot of potential they might realise.
Burgess and Hawton highlight the difficulties psychiatry encounters when facing suicide. They claim that not all who commit suicide are mentally ill,
The Dutch Society of Psychiatrists’ committee, following the Chabot case, took the position that suicide should not be considered as an a priori psychopathological phenomenon.5

Lack of precise measures to detect mental illness is not a sufficient reason to assume all suicides are due to abnormal mental states
 
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BPD will flaunt, and taunt with suicide and treat it as a thing to toy with, same with self-harm. She's either:

BPDs have the highest suicide success rate of all Cluster-B disorders. Other Cluster-B disordered individuals will also threaten suicide but it's to evade responsibility/consequences for their actions in a life event or crisis. Practitioners in the past and the orthodoxy rarely gave out narcissism or psychopathy diagnosis to female patients and rubber stamped borderline because of the stigma carried. Second guessing threats of suicide without a rigorous diagnosis... not the greatest idea.


BPD self-resolves in most cases in 10 years regardless of treatment. Imagine the state allowing suicide for any other condition that could be said of.

It does 'go away' with natural aging if there are no co-morbidities or life crisis. "Mellow out" but can certainly take longer than 10 years depending on the initial diagnosis. Possible to also just work on it and get adequate results since its a treatable condition. There are BPDs with narcissistic defenses and ones without... the ones without do better faster. The thing with legitimate BPD is they are not going to have much life left to settle into over time as they mellow because they'll destroy most of their relationships and life opportunities.

I like the lines of research going into female autism. Specifically how women mask it socially and then randomly dish it out... with devastating social consequences. When women say anything it always carries more weight. If it's cold, autistically unaware, selfish, tone-deaf and insufferable on account of being retarded in some way that is also going to leave a woman isolated completely from other women as well as men. Possibly dawning the same stinky TERF pants every day and ranting on the internet as orbiters and anti-orbiters stack up like cordwood.
 
That's something suicidal people fail to realize. There's always someone left over that they care about that has to pick up the pieces, and it's never easy.
The whole "It's MY life, it's MY decision" argument sounds good on reddit, but falls apart in the real world.
Let's be real here, the kind of people who off themselves don't have that many people who really give a shit, that's mostly movie bullshit. Quite a few of them will specifically commit suicide in the hopes their death hurts living people by blaming their suicide on anyone and everyone.
 
Let's be real here, the kind of people who off themselves don't have that many people who really give a shit, that's mostly movie bullshit. Quite a few of them will specifically commit suicide in the hopes their death hurts living people by blaming their suicide on anyone and everyone.
There's still someone that cares, and if not that they have pets. Suicide in most cases is a long term solution to a short term problem.
 
Suicide in most cases is a long term solution to a short term problem.
Yeah, but I'm not naive enough to believe some people can fix themselves. What the psychiatrist said in the OP article is rough and she shouldn't have her job, but it is true, many people outright refuse to change, or are like the lady in the article and make a show of their failure of a life whenever they feel the urge hit them, and things won't get better for them. A lot of people are the definition of never gonna make it, and their suicide would be the same as their life if they choose to keep on living: a pain in the ass for everyone around them. That's not an endorsement for losers doing a flip, it's just a fact.
 
Do Dutch doctors not take a Hippocratic/Osteopathic oath?
My friend, NONE of them do any more. Not in the west at least. They haven’t for decades. They take a bastardised version called the declaration of Geneva, and many med schools allow you to make your own up.
You are now thinking: well that explains a lot. Yes it does
 
If she was in constant intractable pain with no solution in sight or something I would get it. But this bitch just has a case of the sads and wants to die?

OK. She sounds like a cunt anyway so this is probably the best for everyone.
 
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