Billie Eilish, Pearl Jam, 200 artists say AI poses existential threat to their livelihoods - Artists say AI will "set in motion a race to the bottom that will degrade the value of our work."


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Billie Eilish, Pearl Jam, 200 artists say AI poses existential threat to their livelihoods

Artists say AI will "set in motion a race to the bottom that will degrade the value of our work."​

On Tuesday, the Artist Rights Alliance (ARA) announced an open letter critical of AI signed by over 200 musical artists, including Pearl Jam, Nicki Minaj, Billie Eilish, Stevie Wonder, Elvis Costello, and the estate of Frank Sinatra. In the letter, the artists call on AI developers, technology companies, platforms, and digital music services to stop using AI to "infringe upon and devalue the rights of human artists." A tweet from the ARA added that AI poses an "existential threat" to their art.

Visual artists began protesting the advent of generative AI after the rise of the first mainstream AI image generators in 2022, and considering that generative AI research has since been undertaken for other forms of creative media, we have seen that protest extend to professionals in other creative domains, such as writers, actors, filmmakers—and now musicians.

"When used irresponsibly, AI poses enormous threats to our ability to protect our privacy, our identities, our music and our livelihoods," the open letter states. It alleges that some of the "biggest and most powerful" companies (unnamed in the letter) are using the work of artists without permission to train AI models, with the aim of replacing human artists with AI-created content.

In January, Billboard reported that AI research taking place at Google DeepMind had trained an unnamed music-generating AI on a large dataset of copyrighted music without seeking artist permission. That report may have been referring to Google's Lyria, an AI-generation model announced in November that the company positioned as a tool for enhancing human creativity. The tech has since powered musical experiments from YouTube.

We've previously covered AI music generators that seemed fairly primitive throughout 2022 and 2023, such as Riffusion, Google's MusicLM, and Stability AI's Stable Audio. We've also covered open source musical voice-cloning technology that is frequently used to make musical parodies online. While we have yet to see an AI model that can generate perfect, fully composed high-quality music on demand, the quality of outputs from music synthesis models has been steadily improving over time.

In considering AI's potential impact on music, it's instructive to remember historical instances where tech innovations initially sparked concern among artists. For instance, the introduction of synthesizers in the 1960s and 1970s and the advent of digital sampling in the 1980s both faced scrutiny and fear from parts of the music community, but the music industry eventually adjusted.

While we've seen fear of the unknown related to AI going around quite a bit for the past year, it's possible that AI tools will be integrated into the music production process like any other music production tool or technique that came before. It's also possible that even if that kind of integration comes to pass, some artists will still get hurt along the way—and the ARA wants to speak out about it before the technology progresses further.

“Race to the bottom”​


The Artists Rights Alliance is a nonprofit advocacy group that describes itself as an "alliance of working musicians, performers, and songwriters fighting for a healthy creative economy and fair treatment for all creators in the digital world."

The signers of the ARA's open letter say they acknowledge the potential of AI to advance human creativity when used responsibly, but they also claim that replacing artists with generative AI would "substantially dilute the royalty pool" paid out to artists, which could be "catastrophic" for many working musicians, artists, and songwriters who are trying to make ends meet.

In the letter, the artists say that unchecked AI will set in motion a race to the bottom that will degrade the value of their work and prevent them from being fairly compensated. "This assault on human creativity must be stopped," they write. "We must protect against the predatory use of AI to steal professional artist' voices and likenesses, violate creators' rights, and destroy the music ecosystem."

The emphasis on the word "human" in the letter is notable ("human artist" was used twice and "human creativity" and "human artistry" are used once, each) because it suggests the clear distinction they are drawing between the work of human artists and the output of AI systems. It implies recognition that we've entered a new era where not all creative output is made by people.

The letter concludes with a call to action, urging all AI developers, technology companies, platforms, and digital music services to pledge not to develop or deploy AI music-generation technology, content, or tools that undermine or replace the human artistry of songwriters and artists or deny them fair compensation for their work.

While it's unclear whether companies will meet those demands, so far, protests from visual artists have not stopped development of ever-more advanced image-synthesis models. On Threads, frequent AI industry commentator Dare Obasanjo wrote, "Unfortunately this will be as effective as writing an open letter to stop the sun from rising tomorrow."
 
We're ignoring the other losses that come when ai takes over an industry:

- You won't need to rent out studio space to record music. This means these music studios will get shut down, and people will be out of a job.

- You won't need to hire musicians to play the instruments. This means musicians will be out of a job, even if they're really good. "Just play better!" won't matter.

- You won't need to hire a mixer. Again, there goes another occupation.

- Hell, you probably won't even need to hire a singer for vocals.

Etc...

Basically, all the other industries that are indirectly tied to these jobs that ai outpaces will be lost too. What then? "Learn to code" is just a meme, when you have a bunch of people unable to find jobs because companies prefer to use ai, it's going to become a huge issue.

Again, I feel like people are coping when they act like ai isn't going to completely fuck our economy and change the creative landscape.
Truly a thunk provoking post. I can envision a scenario where the real power players in the future "music" industry are people with social media power willing to comb through an infinite amount of AI slop to find the next Stairway to Heaven and promote it?
 
"a bunch of artists complained" is not a counterpoint to generative AI and it will not save human culture from impending change. every machine is an optimization project. engines optimize transportation. air conditioning optimizes room temperature. the purpose of computers is to optimally reproduce specific kinds of human thought, such as numerical analysis, searching and sorting, and now, generating digital media. now, it's not like we have an indisputable definition of consciousness or anything, but I think we can take for granted that generative algorithms do not have self-consciousness and are therefore incapable of self-expression. what they are designed to do is simply replicate existing media by making educated judgments about what the final product should look like. this makes AI art fundamentally different from the ideal of human art. the problem is that the overwhelming majority of human art, especially today, is commercial bullshit that isn't made to express anything individual. think about the Patreon hentai artist that churns out a dozen images a month that are all just variations on the same theme. that is the dude who is in danger of being made obsolete by generative AI (and was one of the first and most popular applications of image generating software, lol). but something like a masterwork of film or literature, something fundamentally different than its predecessors even in a small way, that represents a novel viewpoint or way of thinking, is not something a machine is capable of intentionally creating. of course, those achievements are very rare compared to shit like Amazon erotic ebooks about fucking a vampire or whatever. it speaks volumes that so much of today's art can be feasibly replaced by a machine that simply aggregates existing examples of media to produce an approximate copy with a few of the variables switched around, lol.
Good post, but holy shit! Learn to use paragraphs!
 
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Where would we be without the musical talents of legends like Tech N9e and Banda El Recordo de Don Cruz Lizarraga?
 
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I was watching an industry insider roundtable on Youtube not terribly long ago and basically it came down to three factors all happening at once by serendipity:
1) MTV deciding they no longer wanted to show videos and started pulling whole types of videos like heavy metal and hard rock or focusing on rap and hip hop

Anyone old enough to remember this event understands its impact. Before internet or any other means. I don't think younger people truly can comprehend the magnitude and impact. Over night a huge cultural source/influence suddenly up and foreclosed on the dominant cultural thing. Rendered itself irrelevant trying to push it's new "thing" (rap, R&B, black culture, reality etc) and blew all goodwill it had over the years. In a fitting outcome.. It took decades for even the most modest of success trying to force it. Still never supplanting music culture in the ways they hoped. Never coming close to reaching the levels of metal and other past popular eras. Or even fads for that matter.

The closest MTV ever got to gaining relevance back was the TRL boy band era in the late 90s.. But once again they didn't want what they had and tried forcing more rap type content on and around it. (I seem to remember attempts to force rap "spots" onto things like TRL) 9/11 finally killed both TRL and boy bands off completely.

Really, that choice should be looked at as one of the first modern type social justice business revolts. They pushed so hard that they intentionally stopped showing what fans, what society wanted, in order to push rap etc. To push black subculture! It's a process that continues to this day with things like woke culture and BLM. It should really be seen as the opening shots in the hot media culture wars to come. At the very least the archetype, or prototype of the modern efforts. (coming for your thing, your escape in order to push their message) The network remained and remains one of the more outspokenly progressive, woke, SJ pushing entities in media. Not that there is much left of it's influence or relevance. They still turn out "newest political think" propaganda every chance they get.

A dark time it was.. if only we knew how much worse things were going to get.
 
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We're ignoring the other losses that come when ai takes over an industry:

- You won't need to rent out studio space to record music. This means these music studios will get shut down, and people will be out of a job.

- You won't need to hire musicians to play the instruments. This means musicians will be out of a job, even if they're really good. "Just play better!" won't matter.

- You won't need to hire a mixer. Again, there goes another occupation.

- Hell, you probably won't even need to hire a singer for vocals.

Etc...

Basically, all the other industries that are indirectly tied to these jobs that ai outpaces will be lost too. What then? "Learn to code" is just a meme, when you have a bunch of people unable to find jobs because companies prefer to use ai, it's going to become a huge issue.

Again, I feel like people are coping when they act like ai isn't going to completely fuck our economy and change the creative landscape.
I'm more worried about AM or SHODAN than I am the music industry.
 
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It's true. But I dont see them protesting against the mechanical loom, the spinning Jenny, or the combine harvester.

A bit late to bitch about the industrial revolution.
Its not a revolution. Literally you're clapping you life away. Every job that doesn't require human intervention or compassion with be replaced with this type of shit.

You don't care because you don't have a skill.
 
You don't care because you don't have a skill.

I do care and I have plenty of skills. I just don't care about these pompous recording artist faggots. They are the most oversocialized tech fetishist people ever, and when now automation eventually comes for their lunch, they go all luddite? Not one of them could go six hours without their precious iphone.
 
Get me less of Taylor Swifts and Billie Eiliwhatevers and more of kino like this and I'll be good
 
Over night a huge cultural source/influence suddenly up and foreclosed on the dominant cultural thing. Rendered itself irrelevant trying to push it's new "thing" (rap, R&B, black culture, reality etc)
MTV lost money on licensing fees every time it aired a music video. When they ran out of money to lose they had to either run homemade content or close up shop. Even at the height of its popularity, rights holders wanted consumers buying VHS tapes to see music videos. Companies could have recognized that MTV was the most effective advertisement possible and worked out a different deal, but they refused. That’s why MTV abandoned its cultural relevance.
 
MTV lost money on licensing fees every time it aired a music video. When they ran out of money to lose they had to either run homemade content or close up shop. Even at the height of its popularity, rights holders wanted consumers buying VHS tapes to see music videos. Companies could have recognized that MTV was the most effective advertisement possible and worked out a different deal, but they refused. That’s why MTV abandoned its cultural relevance.
I used to like VH1. Yanni is underrated.
 
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