Inactive Byuu / byuu_nyan / setsunakun0 / Near / David Ginder - "Non-binary" furry programmer who wrote a Super Nintendo emulator, tried to blackmail Null into removing his thread, and is probably actually dead lol

[Rololowlo]

But instead what Null got was a really suspicious ultimatum. Take the thread down for $100k or I'll kill myself. I'm sorry, but that's unusual even considering the circumstances. And this is some very shady territory here, this could legally be some sort of blackmail or bribery or something. Not saying it was, just saying it could be and this is something Null would have to proceed very carefully with legally speaking. Even if he wanted to take the money, he would probably have to consult a lawyer just to see if it was legal to do so or if a crime was being committed by doing so.

"Your honor, Mr. Null agreed to take down the offending material in exchange for a large sum of money."

Yeah, no way that could have backfired at all.

 

[NaggotFigger]

Sex: Male.

YWNBANB victory
He deserves it, and in the end, nobody but few faggots remember this furfaggot. The only thing that makes his An Hero slightly better than Lowtax was that he is an emulator creator. No normies would mourn him, and so are us, and this leave us a hilarious remark of an An Hero attempt to defame KF ends up failing miserably and the site still lives on; and when he died alone, nobody would remember anything but him being a pedophile furry that literally sacrifice his very own life and ends up moot instead. Only his "friends" and trannies, including his autistic community would mourn him; and as time goes on, nobody cares about his pointless An Hero to cause KF to die in a fire, with no family members in contact, nobody in life to appreciate his "work" and die alone an isolated NEET.

 

[Odd Opossum]

Thanks for the list of incredibly based people.

Posts like these might have more punch if half the thread wasn't doing the "We just love too much, our hearts are too big, we're the only ones who cared about byuu, uWu" shtick.

 

[Overwritten Tapes]

I'm just a dumbass kid

Adults only. Gtfo

 

[Kiwisee]

Oh wow. A doxing gossip site dedicated to cataloging and sometimes intentionally “tipping the cow” looks like a bunch of assholes. The owner gets BTFO when the guys confirmed dead and instead of apologizing or having some kind of human or remorseful response decides to inform his entire website that hes been sitting on updated FOIA information for a year in order to try to protect his website from being dragged into the limelight for contributions to someones suicide as written by the guy who pulled the trigger.

I thought the “legal fund” scam was bottom of the barrel for Josh but here we are, covering up suicide and pretending the fucking guy never did it for an entire year

Not a single ounce of remorse or guilt or apology. Nice Job Josh you faggot. What a hypocritical pos lol.

Rate it with too hats cuz you need to suck this guys dick. What a fucking disaster.

Explain why we should feel bad that a narcissist killed himself after his bluff wasn't taken seriously.

As far as I'm concerned, one less Narc loser is a net positive.

 

[Irredemable Retardation]

Posts like these might have more punch if half the thread wasn't doing the "We just love too much, our hearts are too big, we're the only ones who cared about byuu, uWu" shtick.

Those posts are retarded. A manipulative crybully that takes his own life to please some troons that forgot about him in a month deserves a similar level of mockery Lowtax got post-mortem.

 

[demicolon]

Guys it's me I went back in time put a noose on him and jerked his feet down to make sure.

 

[you lucky bastard]

I guess now's the time to mention I received a FOIA about David Kirk Ginder from last year which would, if accurate, prove what is being said. It contains volumes of information and what appears to be Japanese autopsy reports.

If you don't mind me asking. Why are you posting this now? All this time ppl were speculating and have thrown much bigger speculations about his suicide being fake, why not put this side of argument in public even back then?

 

[polar bear]

This might really hurt me financially, but you guys better change your reactions to my posts

edit: wow you did not do what i specifically demanded you to do? that's it, am ded now

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

I think the saddest thing about this retard is that his one legacy, that "accurate" snes emulator, is not even used by anyone but other autistic retards like him. Everyone uses SNES9x and would sooner use ZSNES rather than his emulator. He had no children, no wife, no accomplishments. He died in a foreign country alone, probably surrounded by furry and sex paraphernalia. What a pathetic existence.

My favorite part of the Byuu spectacle is how hard the assholes at the GBAtemp Faggot Containment Zone pretended to care after constant cannibalistic bullying between the homebrew developers that continues to this day. Unfortunately, the literal convicted pedophiles and trannies are too useful in the Nintendo homebrew development space to get rid of them.

 

[CyrusKissFanClub]

I'm sorry to be real while you guys are all trying to be "It's not my fault!".
The ammount of reactions I'm receiving just proves that what I wrote is making a impact on the reader, I'm not blaming you guys because I know most people here are misfits of society that have suffered bullying, personal losses etc, but I ask again for everyone here to rethink their lives and stop being super stalkers of online people and mentally ill people, the outcome is always the same doesn't matter: Suffering and sadness.

It's okay to make fun of NicoAvokado and his stupid antics.
It's okay to make fun of Chris thinking that Russia is doing something with Ponies.
It's NOT okay to stalk, spread gossip (False Information - Fake News) and actively try to destroy someone life.

I hope Byuu, not the internet persona, but the real person, rests in peace and that family, friends find peace too in this terrible time.

I wll not reply here anymore, but if you want someone to talk to, if you are feeling down or conflicted, count on me

Fuck off, dickhead.

You are posting semi-literate self-righteous bullshit. No one cares what some anime faggot thinks is "okay."

Anyone that identifies as a non-binary babyfur AB/DL--or whatever the fuck he claimed he was--requires psychiatric care--independent of any other concern.

His thirteen-page thread made no material impact on his life. He was gainfully employed, had an online social circle of fellow degenerates, and had money in the bank. Those in the hardware emulation "space" who hated him hated him before he had a thread on KF.

If an inconsequential thread on KF is causing you extreme distress--if we are to take Ginder at his word--then the correct course of action is to seek psychiatric care. It is evident to anyone with even a basic knowledge of mental illness that Ginder's behavior concerning KF and Null was irrational. Ginder himself stated that his behavior was irrational.

How did we transition from this...

Look, I'm the first to admit that I'm a joke of a person. I spent half my life reverse engineering video game systems. That's *weird*, but no one else was going to do it as thorougly, and I've helped improve all SNES emulators, not just mine. At least it's a little tiny bit useful to society, and lets people have a bit of fun reliving their childhoods. It could be much worse. But it doesn't give me a pass to act like a sperg online. You're most welcome to observe and laugh at me.

and this...

I'm not going to condone anything here, but honestly ... I appreciate that this thread was made. I really do. It put all my bullshit in one place and it was a bit of a wake-up call for me. I'm not perfect, but I've been trying to get my shit together as much as I could these past two years now. I'm not going to dismiss my friends, or those who happen to be trans, or furry, or on the spectrum, or whatever it is you guys dislike to fit in here. So I'm sure it's never going to be good enough. I *do* dismiss anyone who hurts another child or animal, though. Putting those people in jail is the one thing I support from here.

(https://kiwifarms.st/threads/byuu-byuu_nyan-setsunakun0-near-david-ginder.43056/page-6#post-5982121)

to this.

I can't do this anymore.

I've tried therapy, I've tried every anti-depressant available in Japan, I've erased my entire internet presence back in July. I've tried everything, but nothing works. I can't stop having panic attacks. I can't stop feeling humiliated. I can't stop spending every hour of my life worrying about what your users are going to do next to me or my friends both onsite and off. It's been a three-year nightmare for me.

I know I'm different, but I've tried my best to be a good person. To learn from my mistakes and not repeat them. To help others wherever I could. But I've always been ridiculed for being different. It's been a constant my entire life. It's unbearable.

I can't live like this any more, it has wrecked my entire life. I really can't explain why this hurts me so deeply, and I know it's irrational. I can only tell you that I can't handle this anymore. "byuu" is all I have. I have no real-life friends, no identity off the internet, this is it. There's no other reason for my being but to try and emulate game consoles for people. I put my entire life into this.

(https://kiwifarms.st/threads/byuu-byuu_nyan-setsunakun0-near-david-ginder.43056/page-14#post-9313342)

The stark transition from indifference to existential dread needs an explanation. This is how Grinder explained the shift to Null:

When the thread went up in May 2018 it was a little humiliating at first but nothing major.
But then people started showing up in servers I was in accusing me of pedophilia. It's difficult to be called something so horrendous. But still, I just ignored it completely. In February 2020, someone claiming to be from your site posted a dox list on Pastebin of several of my friends to 4chan's /emugen/ board. I lost one of my best online friends of ten years to that. https://twitter.com/talarubi if you must know. Yes yes I know, trans furry etc. I doubt you'd sympathize but the relationship meant a lot to me. She got so upset by having her personal information revealed that she blamed me and we haven't spoken since. In July 2020, Basil and Retrocrab on your board were trying to make a thread on another emulator developer, Arisotura, because of me, while she was suicidal. I know, again, trans, again, I don't expect you to care about these people. But they were my friends and they spent years helping me with my software. And then when Jacob, the dumbass that he was, tried to help me, he got on your bad side and someone named Ritter doxed him in January 2021. I haven't heard from him since either and I don't even know if he's okay or not. He's not my friend, but, I didn't want this to happen to him.

(https://kiwifarms.st/threads/byuu-byuu_nyan-setsunakun0-near-david-ginder.43056/page-14#post-9313342)

I don't find this convincing. The worst outcome of having a thread on KF was that a "trans furry" that he knew only online stopped communicating with him, and some trolls called him "pedo." This is hardly catastrophic. If it seemed catastrophic to Ginder, it is further indicative of underlying untreated mental illness.

Ginder had sufficient funds to seek psychiatric care in the USA if he was getting no satisfaction in Japan. It is not plausible to claim that no drug could be found to control his (claimed) panic attacks or depression. This is bullshit. He should have returned to the USA if he had exhausted Japan's pharmacological options. There are protocols--albeit imperfect--for treating refractory depression and panic disorder. If committing suicide is on the table as an option, then surely seeking the best quality treatment in the USA should also be an option.

Assuming Ginder was being honest, even were his thread to be deleted, his underlying psychopathology would still be there. Ginder would still have the following (according to Ginder himself):

• refractory depression;
• panic disorder;
• ADHD;
• obsessive-compulsive disorder; and
• paraphilia(s).

This is what Ginder told us he had; the list may be incomplete. Ginder self-diagnosed himself with Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria, which isn't a recognized diagnosis under the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5). Ginder attributed much of his suffering to this imaginary mental disorder.

All of the above syndromes have a strong genetic/biological component. You can't acquire them because you have a thread on KF. At worst--and this is giving Ginder more charity than he deserves--KF could aggravate some of those conditions, i.e., KF could act as a stressor. But an inconsequential thread serving as a stressor is itself indicative of psychopathology.

So what drugs did David "I'm all out of options" Ginder try?

The only SSRI to do anything was Zoloft, but it caused me really terrible tinnitus and I can't take it.
The rest of it does nothing. Nortriptyline, Lexapro, Mirtazapine, Anafranil, Intuniv, it helped a little, but it doesn't do anything anymore. I also have OCD and I think that it makes me obsess over things like this. I can't stop myself from thinking about it and worrying about the "what ifs."

Sertraline - SSRI AD
Escitalopram - SSRI AD
Nortriptyline - Tricyclic AD
Clomipramine - Tricyclic AD
Mirtazapine - Tetracyclic AD
Guanfacine - Alpha-2a agonist for ADHD

So, he hadn't even exhausted the available SSRIs.
No NRIs were tried.
No SNRIs were tried.
No serotonin modulators were tried.
No monoamine oxidase inhibitors were tried.
Not all of the drugs for major depression and OCD were tried.
Not all of the drugs for major depression and panic disorder were tried.
No attempt was made to augment with an antipsychotic or a complementary antidepressant.
[1] [2]

So David "I'm shit out of options" Ginder had tried approximately 5% of the drugs relevant to his conditions. Again, if this was all that was available in Japan, he had the funds to seek treatment in the USA. Rather than offer Null his savings, he should have used those to find one of the best psychiatrists in the USA with a pharmacotherapeutic orientation. Once stabilized, he probably would have benefitted from CBT.

Lastly, no one in psychological distress should PM some stupid faggot with an anime/Jap crap PFP. See your primary care physician/general practitioner, and if (s)he deems it necessary, take their referral to a psychiatrist.

Spoiler: General Psychiatric Advice

There is no shortcut (yet) to finding the most effective (vs tolerable) psychotropic for your mental illness. There are many drugs even within each class/category. It is largely a matter of trial and error. There are treatment protocols, e.g., STAR*D, for treating major depression. They are imperfect, but they have heuristic value, and your treating doctor should be using them as guidelines. As a patient, it is your responsibility to comply with the instructions for medicating yourself and to be patient with the treatment protocol.

Try not to be a whiny retard about your medications. If you are suicidally depressed and have suicide as an option, then you should be able to tolerate some nausea, somnolence, diarrhea, constipation, and other minor adverse reactions. These usually pass after around 14 days, and even if they don't, it takes approximately four to six weeks for all of the conventional antidepressants to exert their full therapeutic effect, so you need to be patient.

Also, if suicide is on the table, then ECT (Electro-Convulsive Therapy) should also be on the table. If you plan to kill yourself, then you should have no problem with ECT. If your depression is refractory after a conscientious application of a drug regimen, then your psychiatrist may recommend ECT. ECT is perhaps the most misunderstood treatment. What you should know about ECT:

• it is the seizure that exerts a therapeutic benefit;
• the purpose of the electric current is to induce the seizure;
• for 99% of treatments, the only memory loss is that around the time of the treatment, i.e., if you are being treated as an inpatient, you will have memory loss associated with your experiences as an inpatient; and
• ECT is effective in about 60% of cases of treatment-resistant depression.

Yes, ECT is an extreme option, but so is suicide. If ECT is going to work, it will work much quicker than pharmaceuticals.

If your mental illness is not mainly biological in origin, e.g., if you are experiencing episodic depression in response to some loss or tragedy, then you may be a good candidate for psychotherapy. If you have a subtype of depression that is known to have a strong biological/genetic origin--that is largely unresponsive to what is happening in your life--e.g., melancholic depression, bipolar disorder--then no amount of talk therapy will help.

 

[NaggotFigger]

I'm sorry to be real while you guys are all trying to be "It's not my fault!".
The ammount of reactions I'm receiving just proves that what I wrote is making a impact on the reader, I'm not blaming you guys because I know most people here are misfits of society that have suffered bullying, personal losses etc, but I ask again for everyone here to rethink their lives and stop being super stalkers of online people and mentally ill people, the outcome is always the same doesn't matter: Suffering and sadness.

It's okay to make fun of NicoAvokado and his stupid antics.
It's okay to make fun of Chris thinking that Russia is doing something with Ponies.
It's NOT okay to stalk, spread gossip (False Information - Fake News) and actively try to destroy someone life.

I hope Byuu, not the internet persona, but the real person, rests in peace and that family, friends find peace too in this terrible time.

I wll not reply here anymore, but if you want someone to talk to, if you are feeling down or conflicted, count on me

>same tranime game series that Chris drools over to
Opinion disregarded.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

collection of Cope pt. 1

Make like Byuu and kill yourself.

 

[Changed later]

To be honest the only way I'll ever be convinced he's dead is seeing his cold, lifeless corpse on a morgue slab and the organs pulled out the chest cavity before I'll ever accept that Byuu is dead. The level of obstufucation that went into making it uncertain if he was alive or dead is too ridiculous to be accidental.

 

[Crayon-Eating Homunculus]

He has a good resume, excellent income/savings and is still young. This guy has so much potential but chooses to be an austistic trans-furry suicide-baiting on the internet? What a strange world...

I need to update my old post on this dude:

He had a good resume, excellent income/savings and was still young. This guy had so much potential but chose to be an autistic trans-furry who committed suicide over petty Internet drama? What a strange world psychotic troon...

Yiff in Hell, furfag.

 

[ScooterL]

To be honest the only way I'll ever be convinced he's dead is seeing his cold, lifeless corpse on a morgue slab

Stay optimistic, maybe the photo will surface one day.

 

[Voracious]

So Null knew or had strong proof for almost a year yet didn't share it with anyone? The optics of that are pretty bad to put it mildly.

A mentally ill man kills himself and first people deny it, later they rejoice that he actually did it. Disgusting.

 

[SomeSpook]

I'm sorry to be real while you guys are all trying to be "It's not my fault!".
The ammount of reactions I'm receiving just proves that what I wrote is making a impact on the reader, I'm not blaming you guys because I know most people here are misfits of society that have suffered bullying, personal losses etc, but I ask again for everyone here to rethink their lives and stop being super stalkers of online people and mentally ill people, the outcome is always the same doesn't matter: Suffering and sadness.

It's okay to make fun of NicoAvokado and his stupid antics.
It's okay to make fun of Chris thinking that Russia is doing something with Ponies.
It's NOT okay to stalk, spread gossip (False Information - Fake News) and actively try to destroy someone life.

I hope Byuu, not the internet persona, but the real person, rests in peace and that family, friends find peace too in this terrible time.

I wll not reply here anymore, but if you want someone to talk to, if you are feeling down or conflicted, count on me

Why the fuck did you make an account here? So you could wear the coat of righteousness and think you're better than us? Well snap back to reality, retard, Byuu wasn't as brave and stunning as most think he was. You can say it's all bull, but he was absolutely hated by everyone in the community he found himself in. And when he had nowhere else to go? He found himself here. Then he tried getting his thread removed by suicide baiting Josh, the admin of this site; and when he offed himself? Nobody believed he did. Now we're here. So don't you, or any one of you faggot friends, come into this thread acting like you're high and mighty. Know where you are, you fucking termite.

 

[A huge plate of beans]

It's crazy to me that in such an inter-connected world someone can commit suicide after publicly stating they were going to do so, only for them to be so withdrawn from society that it takes years to prove it even happened at all.

I know what he did was manipulative, but what a sad end to a sad character. Family uninterested. Estranged husband unable to afford cremation at first. Official documentation saying he never went out and didn't have a favourite place to have his remains scattered. The only people who cared at the time he did it were so far away from Byuu they had to contact the fucking embassy to get them to do a welfare check. Doomed forever to be an unliked pawn in an online gossip war, at his own behest. Tragic.

 

[CockPockets]

I think marcan had some sort of regret or guilt about byuu's suicide so he made up half of that stupid story and torpedoed his credibility. I want to know why that is

Tragic

Byuu had people on his ass constantly about kiwi farms, and like he wrote, he ended up losing a lot of "friends" (read: emutranny associates who you couldn't trust as far as you could throw) over kiwi farms. Arisotura is a mentally ill transsexual house squatter. That's the kind of company he kept.
In the end I think he isolated himself more than people were isolating from him. It's obvious he had a very guilty conscience and hated himself for what he did. Kiwi farms was only secondary, and his thing to latch upon and blame for everything about his social life going wrong.
This happens with every lonely autist furfag pushing forty by the way; they all obsessively read kiwi farms and pretend they don't, it's kind of funny. When you have no family or real life friends pithy online shit will mean the world to you.
It's sad to see people get that way, though. When you look into any of these, they're usually CSA survivors, or had early porn exposure, or were otherwise groomed on top of being on the spectrum.