Furry Fandom and Drama General

[Mikoyan]

The shift to donating to black and troon groups is a very recent thing. I've only seen it happening since around 2020 or so. Of course, it's a very vocal minority of ma'am's demanding it, and nobody has the balls to tell them no.

Yeah. What prompted me to ask around was FC going for a normie homeless shelter. Like, what?

Also like the tranch these places are harder to vet. Some of them will have reputations and that's fine. But with the animal charities it was de rigeur to go for a site visit. Take promo pics, etc, etc. If something was fucked you could tell quick. Can't do that with some vague 'helping people with housing' deal.

 

[Lion Kang]

The tomboy-to-trans pipeline is probably the greatest atrocity against women in the twenty first century. This one particular case always makes me sad.

Meet Parker, there's nothing particularly strange for a furry. Trans, weird kinks, weird art gallery. But while I won't show any real photos I think I can demonstrate the change over the past year via ref sheets.

Spoiler: Trans-furmation

If you haven't realized, this little 5'3 dood gained fifty pounds from a year testosterone shots. Going from feminine-voiced and pear shaped, to having a fridge body and sounding like a soyboy. Many of you might just consider this another depressing case of a woman irreparably destroying her body to fit in, but I felt this should be documented if we ever open the archives to the tomboy holocaust.

 

[Lavender Moth]

If you haven't realized, this little 5'3 dood gained fifty pounds from a year testosterone shots.

I'm pretty certain this is just wishful thinking on her part. There is absolutely no way this tiny woman is 175 lbs on a 5'3 frame. [archive] She is appears to have not had top surgery [archive] so she still appears very female irl. At best, she looks to be a skinnyfat 125 lbs. The only thing T seems to have done for her is ugly hairy arms and cystic acne. Peak male form, clearly.

The tomboy-to-trans pipeline is probably the greatest atrocity against women in the twenty first century. This one particular case always makes me sad.

Okay THIS I wholeheartedly agree with though.

 

[Executive Costco Member]

Arizona Governor Katie Hobbs vetoed SB2586. E621 is a website based in AZ, thereby sparing it from potential compliance and regulation.

 

[Solid Hyrax]

@Lavender Moth I think uploading directly to the forum instead of linking is more useful for us. Plus we get to see the images. Archiving image files is a bit overkill unless there's extra context in tweets.

 

[❤️ Rivet ❤️]

I was curious about whether furries are actually supporting these LGBTQ charities, so just to satisfy my curiosity, I wasted an hour on Wikifur and randomly selected several American furry conventions.

I wouldn't be surprised if less gets raised for non-animal charities in general. Animal charities naturally fit in better at cons, have cute animals of which none are MTF, and often have some cool merch (shirts, sometimes plushies, etc) they use for raising money too.

I personally wouldn't donate to a non-animal charity at a con, but that's just me.

 

[Executive Costco Member]

e621 updated today with the news about SB2586. I suggest that such celebration could be a bit premature. Let's review how the state of Arizona defines obscenity:

Spoiler: Definition of "item"

2. "Item" means any material or performance which depicts or describes sexual activity and includes any book, leaflet, pamphlet, magazine, booklet, picture, drawing, photograph, film, negative, slide, motion picture, figure, object, article, novelty device, recording, transcription, live or recorded telephone message or other similar items whether tangible or intangible and including any performance, exhibition, transmission or dissemination of any of the above. An item also includes a live performance or exhibition which depicts sexual activity to the public or an audience of one or more persons. An item is obscene within the meaning of this chapter when all of the following apply:(a) The average person, applying contemporary state standards, would find that the item, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest. In order for an item as a whole to be found or intended to have an appeal to the prurient interest, it is not necessary that the item be successful in arousing or exciting any particular form of prurient interest either in the hypothetical average person, in a member of its intended and probable recipient group or in the trier of fact.(b) The average person, applying contemporary state standards, would find that the item depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual activity as that term is described in this section.(c) The item, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value

In particular, the statute later calls out excretory functions as patently offensive. I leave finding such materials on e621 as homework for...any interested parties...

It might be interesting to see if Bad Dragon moves to another state to potentially avoid an increasingly unfriendly legislative body or attorney general. There could always be case law stating that illustrated scat fetish artwork isn't in violation of the obscenity statute hidden within the annals of an AZ law library, butt I wouldn't know. It does beg the question: where, if anywhere, could e621 be legally hosted in the United States? Or Furaffinity even, for that matter?

However dumb or just you might think obscenity laws are, it is potentially a crime to distribute pictures and videos of defecation at both the state and federal level: the creator of the infamous scat-eating video 2 Girls 1 Cup, Ira Isaacs, went to prison for four years by running afoul of federal obscenity statutes.

Source:

https://casetext.com/statute/arizona-revised-statutes/title-13-criminal-code/chapter-35-obscenity/section-13-3501-definitions

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Repost from the Kiwifarms review thread.

Head admin of e621 namedrops the site in the e6ai Discord after a prominent user got hit with a ban at the "discretion of management."
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In other news when I wanted to look at the ban list since apparently there's one, the page throws an error. Whoops!

 

[Slav Power]

I suggest that such celebration could be a bit premature.

Anyone who celebrates laws that restrict freedom of speech and freedom of expression because they ban "a thing they don't like" is a retard. Obscenity laws are right up there in terms of idiocy as blasphemy laws.

Who's the arbiter of what's obscene and what's not? Who's the arbiter of what's blasphemous and what's not? It's all subjective and it all boils down to putting people in jail because they've upset someone's feefees.

I guess people who celebrate this would jizz their pants if the US federal government passed something like the UK's 2001 Communications Act, where the two words in it can get you arrested for just about anything. Grossly offensive. What is "grossly offensive" you ask? Well whatever you want it to be.

All speech laws aim to be like 2001 Communications Act, to be a gigantic gray area to lock people up for any reason. If you celebrate Arizona banning e621 because you hate e621, or NC requiring real ID to access porn sites because you hate porn sites, you're the most docile nigger cattle and deserve to live in the most brutal totalitarian regime imaginable.

 

[The Homelander]

Anyone who celebrates laws that restrict freedom of speech and freedom of expression because they ban "a thing they don't like" is a retard. Obscenity laws are right up there in terms of idiocy as blasphemy laws.

Who's the arbiter of what's obscene and what's not? Who's the arbiter of what's blasphemous and what's not? It's all subjective and it all boils down to putting people in jail because they've upset someone's feefees.

I guess people who celebrate this would jizz their pants if the US federal government passed something like the UK's 2001 Communications Act, where the two words in it can get you arrested for just about anything. Grossly offensive. What is "grossly offensive" you ask? Well whatever you want it to be.

All speech laws aim to be like 2001 Communications Act, to be a gigantic gray area to lock people up for any reason. If you celebrate Arizona banning e621 because you hate e621, or NC requiring real ID to access porn sites because you hate porn sites, you're the most docile nigger cattle and deserve to live in the most brutal totalitarian regime imaginable.

I have no fucking idea how users of KiwiFarms, of all websites, struggle with this concept. I have been saying this for months and been getting boos and jeers. Bizarre.

 

[Rukario]

I have no fucking idea how users of KiwiFarms, of all websites, struggle with this concept. I have been saying this for months and been getting boos and jeers. Bizarre.

Almost everyone who posts in Animal Control either is a former furry or has an agenda against another furry. Some of the latter are happy to see laws passed that stifle free speech and human rights, just to spite the one or two people or organizations they don't like.

Its like if there was an insane law passed against people having a waistband larger than 40 inches. Sure, Ethan Ralph and Chris Chan amongst others would get shafted by it, but ~95% of all Americans will also find themselves becoming criminals overnight.

 

[Executive Costco Member]

Anyone who celebrates laws that restrict freedom of speech and freedom of expression because they ban "a thing they don't like" is a retard. Obscenity laws are right up there in terms of idiocy as blasphemy laws.

To be clear, I was referring to people that were celebrating SB2586's failure to pass, which e621 admin NotMeNotYou did on April 10th. I agree with what you said regardless.

 

[Slav Power]

To be clear, I was referring to people that were celebrating SB2586's failure to pass

Oh, I thought it actually got passed and that's what's been celebrated, I didn't follow the news on it and that's the impression I got. My bad, I suck cocks.

 

[Executive Costco Member]

Oh, I thought it actually got passed and that's what's been celebrated, I didn't follow the news on it and that's the impression I got. My bad, I suck cocks.

Nah dude, you're cool. I should have written it a little better. Any opportunity to rail off against obscenity laws and efforts to stymie free speech is well worth it, especially these days.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Almost everyone who posts in Animal Control either is a former furry or has an agenda against another furry. Some of the latter are happy to see laws passed that stifle free speech and human rights, just to spite the one or two people or organizations they don't like.

Its like if there was an insane law passed against people having a waistband larger than 40 inches. Sure, Ethan Ralph and Chris Chan amongst others would get shafted by it, but ~95% of all Americans will also find themselves becoming criminals overnight.

You're not wrong, but outside of here, most people are happy to see laws passed that stifle rights from furries and trannies, to spite all of them.

Take it from me, I'm one of those people anything that hurts most if not all furfags is good in my book aslong as speech itself isn't restricted.

I hate Patreon and know damn well they'd ban me for wrongthink if I signed up for it, but I was fucking ecstatic when it went after pedos.

So it's not just 1 or 2 people, it's thousands and I like none of them, so uh well. You can negrate me all you want BTW, but I know damn well everyone else on KF are happy to see these things happen to degenerates. Only thing is, I'm not vocal about it because @Slav Power gave me a reason to not be.

 

[❤️ Rivet ❤️]

In particular, the statute later calls out excretory functions as patently offensive. I leave finding such materials on e621 as homework for...any interested parties...

FYI to those who like to live dangerously: If you've never seen that kind of thing on e621 it's because they have 'scat' on the default blacklist (for guests and new accounts) and you have to manually remove it.


E621 Blacklist Documentation

Anyone who celebrates laws that restrict freedom of speech and freedom of expression because they ban "a thing they don't like" is a retard.

Unfortunately most people are retarded, have zero foresight, and are happy to sacrifice their own freedom to harm those they dislike or ban things they dislike.

 

[Roxanne Wolf]

happy to sacrifice their own freedom to harm those they dislike or ban things they dislike.

Niggas be acting like crabs in buckets ong fr fr no cap

 

[Slav Power]

you have to manually remove it.

To be more exact, you need to register an account to adjust the blacklist feature. Then you can blacklist whatever you want. Don't wanna see fag shit? Add "lgbt_pride" and "trans_(lore)" in there. Don't want to see dickgirls and cuntboys? Add "intersex" there. This is the only good thing about e621, it has an autistic tagging system and a blacklist feature that's functional because of the former.

Unfortunately most people are retarded

Ain't that the truth.

 

[❤️ Rivet ❤️]

To be more exact, you need to register an account to adjust the blacklist feature

That's not true, logged out users can modify their "anonymous blacklist". If you go to the posts page and click "Blacklist" in the header you can modify the blacklist when logged out, but for obvious reasons it won't be persisted.

The 'young' tag has extra restrictions for logged out users but no one should be looking at that regardless.

 

[Vibe_Guy]

Furry gayops on kiwifarms have been a disaster for AC. You know who you are. I know who you are and what you're doing. If you're gonna play dirty, I can play dirty as well.

Before a specific person DMs me to let people have fun, I would like to let you know fun is subjective and they are spoiling my fun and highly disturb me.

Consider this a declaration of war.

Edit: this isn't against every single AC dweller that is a furry. Just a particular few that think they're being slick softballing degenerate powerlevels to normalize them. To be blunt as to avoid friendly fire: Roxanne or usual book club posters aren't being implicated here in any way shape or form.