Debate users @Lidl Drip and @Mr Bones Wild Ride on if skintight leggings are appropriate workout attire.

[Kung Pow Cream]

I hate men

This post originally in The Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread.

 

[Lidl Drip]

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He's kind of right tho, there's no reason to wear only a bra and those leggings that cling directly to your buttcrack to the gym. Those butt scrunch leggings are specifically advertised to empathize your butt too so I don't think anyone can feign ignorance that it's not supposed to make people look at your butt. I feel uncomfortable even as a woman with what some women wear in public, I don't really wanna see anyones bumcheeks hanging out their shorts for example, male of female. I don't really think it's reasonable either to think that walking around half naked will ever be seen as a non-sexual thing if only we teach men to respect women or whatever libfems think. They will always be horny animals. One of the major reasons to never date a gymbro.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

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These idiots. Aside from the obvious "ooh I can't help myself like any normal male why must they be such temptresses" garbage, the "these days" and "I yearn for the old days when men did not have to be so forced into lust in their heart" sticks in my craw.

Here are some recreational/ casual/ workout outfits (and even one work uniform) from 40-80 years ago. Form-fitting, skin-showing, body outlining. Random selection. And yet somehow, even despite compression bras being the norm in tops now and absent in these, it's "oh, modern society sluts in their midriff-baring tops and spandex bottoms ruin my purity, the sky is falling, I can't be blamed, etc."

 

[Mr Bones Wild Ride]

He's kind of right tho, there's no reason to wear only a bra and those leggings that cling directly to your buttcrack to the gym.

Yeah nah, respectively disagree.
I am a certified gymrat and there is a reason for it.
For a lift sesh, I will only wear a bra and scrunch bum leggings or shorts.

This is so either my trainer or my spotter (or me using the mirrors) can check my form and make sure I'm activating the right muscle groups.
When your body starts to fatigue, your form starts to drop off and its easier to spot wearing less clothing/form fitting clothing.
Wearing the bum scrunch helps to identify if my left glute is being a lazy fuck and not engaging properly. Glute imbalance can fuck you right up (pelvic instability) so it is an important thing to check.

Even when doing things like pilates (either reformer or mat) its helpful having compression wear as a reminder of form (engaging the powerhouse, tucking the tailbone etc)

Those butt scrunch leggings are specifically advertised to empathize your butt too so I don't think anyone can feign ignorance that it's not supposed to make people look at your butt.

Anyone who uploads videos complaining about/shaming people who look at them when they're doing something that attracts attention at the gym should rightfully get BTFO by Joey Swoll.

Additionally, anyone (male or female) who films in a gym without the consent of others is a cunt of the highest order. It's completely banned at my gym and you will lose your membership.

I feel uncomfortable even as a woman with what some women wear in public, I don't really wanna see anyones bumcheeks hanging out their shorts for example, male of female. I don't really think it's reasonable either to think that walking around half naked will ever be seen as a non-sexual thing if only we teach men to respect women or whatever libfems think. They will always be horny animals.

Eh, again - could be just because 'Straya but I'm not bothered by this.
People frequently walk around here without shoes, shirts, or pants and its just normal. Men's inability to stop sexualising things is their fucking problem.

For example, here are some Australians voting in Bondi:

No one finds this sexual - this is normal.

Even away from the coast you'd have people voting in singlets and stubbies (shorts).

I apply the rule of breastfeeding to people who complain about others sartorial choices:
If you don't like it, find something else to look at or close your eyes

One of the major reasons to never date a gymbro.

Number one reason is the endless conversations about macros

 

[ephermeral]

I do not find those Australians sexual, but they aren't normal either. Were they so excited to vote that they forgot to put on their shoes? Animals.

 

[Stan]

Moid realizes that porn is just watching another dude have sex while you sit alone with your dick in your hand wishing that was you lmao.

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The porn industry just exposed how many men are cucks (surprise, it's almost all of them).

I’d almost feel sorry for him if he wasn’t trying to get all of his social interaction via Tinder. Apps are for the birds, if you’re a low T low quality man like this you won’t get anyone to talk to you, and if you’re a woman the low quality guys spam you like a flock of seagulls fighting over a plate of chips.

He's kind of right tho, there's no reason to wear only a bra and those leggings that cling directly to your buttcrack to the gym. Those butt scrunch leggings are specifically advertised to empathize your butt too so I don't think anyone can feign ignorance that it's not supposed to make people look at your butt. I feel uncomfortable even as a woman with what some women wear in public, I don't really wanna see anyones bumcheeks hanging out their shorts for example, male of female. I don't really think it's reasonable either to think that walking around half naked will ever be seen as a non-sexual thing if only we teach men to respect women or whatever libfems think. They will always be horny animals. One of the major reasons to never date a gymbro.

These idiots. Aside from the obvious "ooh I can't help myself like any normal male why must they be such temptresses" garbage, the "these days" and "I yearn for the old days when men did not have to be so forced into lust in their heart" sticks in my craw.

Here are some recreational/ casual/ workout outfits (and even one work uniform) from 40-80 years ago. Form-fitting, skin-showing, body outlining. Random selection. And yet somehow, even despite compression bras being the norm in tops now and absent in these, it's "oh, modern society sluts in their midriff-baring tops and spandex bottoms ruin my purity, the sky is falling, I can't be blamed, etc."


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The guy’s outfit in pic #1 is hilariously bad, he looks like he’s cross dressing or some kind of faggot.

And I’ll jump on the train to agree that there are certainly some women who go to the gym more to be seen than to work out. Some men there did the same, and this was the Equinox location At chestnut hill, which iirc was like 395/mo for membership. And fr there were people there who would dress in skimpy Athleisure clothes and loaf in the stretch area texting.

But if the *men* are going to complain about those darn temptresses in the yoga pants, I want to complain about the men who would elevator-eyes me and many other women in classes and on the floor. I felt that some of them were there to gape at women doing yoga rather than actually do yoga. I was more of the baggy t-shirt and bike shorts sort of gymwear person… why spend a lot of money on clothes meant to get all sweaty and worn? I heard the soulcycle location downstairs was even worse with regards to sexpot clothing and sexpest men. My staff friend told me more than a few members used the gym as an attraction location

 

[Inside your walls]

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He's kind of right tho, there's no reason to wear only a bra and those leggings that cling directly to your buttcrack to the gym. Those butt scrunch leggings are specifically advertised to empathize your butt too so I don't think anyone can feign ignorance that it's not supposed to make people look at your butt. I feel uncomfortable even as a woman with what some women wear in public, I don't really wanna see anyones bumcheeks hanging out their shorts for example, male of female. I don't really think it's reasonable either to think that walking around half naked will ever be seen as a non-sexual thing if only we teach men to respect women or whatever libfems think. They will always be horny animals. One of the major reasons to never date a gymbro.

Honestly, what frustrates me when it comes to this topic there is seemingly no good answer to this dilemma. If women do dress up in regular sweatpants, plain shirt and tie their hair in a bun they get accused of looking like a slob that neglects herself, especially given that this type of appearance and style of clothing get associated with those 35-year old hags that hit the wall, but when women put on yoga pants, sports bra and a light shirt to cover their torso they get reeeeeeeeee'd because they are tempting men. It doesn't help that the companies that are probably ran by moids, that do manufacture workout clothes tend to put more features such as Dri-fit, quality and work into revealing work out clothes. The only time companies such as Nike made some exceptions and where they put the same amount of quality and effort along with features found in separate products for women is for their muslim/modest wear.



It's very annoying that we can't get something decent in-between.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Honestly, what frustrates me when it comes to this topic there is seemingly no good answer to this dilemma. If women do dress up in regular sweatpants, plain shirt and tie their hair in a bun they get accused of looking like a slob that neglects herself, especially given that this type of appearance and style of clothing get associated with those 35-year old hags that hit the wall, but when women put on yoga pants, sports bra and a light shirt to cover their torso they get reeeeeeeeee'd because they are tempting men. It doesn't help that the companies that are probably ran by moids, that do manufacture workout clothes tend to put more features such as Dri-fit, quality and work into revealing work out clothes. The only time companies such as Nike made some exceptions and where they put the same amount of quality and effort along with features found in separate products for women is for their muslim/modest wear.

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It's very annoying that we can't get something decent in-between.

I don't know, I never felt like a slob working out in normal leggings that don't eat my ass and a baggy shirt. I don't want women to be forced to wear modest clothes and I don't think women dressing provocatively is a "new" phenomenon or a sign the west has fallen, but I can understand how married people especially get uncomfortable when there's women walking around leaving absolutely nothing to the imagination. You can avoid looking at porn and girls on Instagram/Tiktok if you are a good husband, you can't really do anything about women who are half naked in public except avert your gaze politely, but that's still kind of awkward.

This is so either my trainer or my spotter (or me using the mirrors) can check my form and make sure I'm activating the right muscle groups.
When your body starts to fatigue, your form starts to drop off and its easier to spot wearing less clothing/form fitting clothing.
Wearing the bum scrunch helps to identify if my left glute is being a lazy fuck and not engaging properly. Glute imbalance can fuck you right up (pelvic instability) so it is an important thing to check.

Why don't men wear them too then? I guess I will avoid Australia as a femcel prude.

 

[Mr Bones Wild Ride]

You can avoid looking at porn and girls on Instagram/Tiktok if you are a good husband, you can't really do anything about women who are half naked in public except avert your gaze politely, but that's still kind of awkward.

Hoping you might explain your logic on this one:
Married men are completely unable to control themselves and therefore women must accommodate them because a lack of clothing is too titillating/shameful.
Then why 2 pages ago did you post something mocking a man for getting angry at seeing ugly women?

Those are two contradictory positions to take. We're either allowed to exist as full human beings that can choose how we appear or we all somehow need to appease a indefinable modesty requirement? What?
Who determines what is acceptable then?

Why don't men wear them too then? I guess I will avoid Australia as a femcel prude.

Males don't wear bum scrunch leggings because they'd be accused of faggotry because of the homosexual obsession with butts.
However, they do wear Skins compression gear and Australian males wear what we call "budgie smugglers" for swimming that leave nothing to the imagination.

No one gives a fuck about this because this country isn't so horndog that the mere act of seeing the outlines of eachothers body causes a massive fuckpile from which none of us can escape.

You getting in a flap about how little clothing people are wearing is weird as fuck. It gives American puritanical vibes. For most normal people, observing someone with exposed skin isn't fucking arousing. That's the kind of logic Pajeets and Sandniggers use to harass white women because we're not covered head to toe.
It's also an incel argument - Western women are too slutty! They should wear petticoats and shit, lest they tempt my Christian values.

I could look at a million forearms/chests/abs/cocks and feel literally nothing because my interest and desire for someone comes from reciprocal attraction, mutual values, and shared goals.

Going after someone just because they're "sooo hawt" and you couldn't help your groin lust is a great way to end up with a moid who needs his mommyMcBangMaid or as a single mother.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Hoping you might explain your logic on this one:
Married men are completely unable to control themselves and therefore women must accommodate them because a lack of clothing is too titillating/shameful.
Then why 2 pages ago did you post something mocking a man for getting angry at seeing ugly women?

??? I did say they can look away but it's still in public and you do notice the way people are dressed around you. I, as a woman, find it uncomfortable when people are dressed with their bits hanging out or in skintight clothing and I do notice if someone is in front of me at the grocery store with their ass cheeks hanging out. If I had a husband who was standing right next to me I would be twice as uncomfortable, even if I knew he would never say or do anything to that woman. I don't want men walking around in skintight pants showing their dick outline either because that's just not something I want to see and I don't think it's nice to subject other people to that.

We're either allowed to exist as full human beings that can choose how we appear or we all somehow need to appease a indefinable modesty requirement? What?

So how far is this supposed to go tho? You could make this argument for full on nudism too. Technically you are just "existing as a human being" when you walk naked into a grocery store and it's everyone elses problem if they are bothered by it? I am not arguing for enforcing any kind of modesty laws I think I said that several times, I still think it's rude to make others around you uncomfortable by walking around half naked.

Going after someone just because they're "sooo hawt" and you couldn't help your groin lust is a great way to end up with a moid who needs his mommyMcBangMaid or as a single mother.

Yeah idk why you are putting all these words in my mouth but you're being extremely aggressive and retarded for no reason. Next you'll say that me saying I find it inappropriate when people dress in bra and butt-scrunch-shorts in public means women deserve to get raped or whatever. Fuck off. I understand you feel personally attacked because you walk around like that and apparently it's normal in Australia and no man sees a half naked woman and has sexual thoughts about her (lmao).

 

[Stan]

The only time companies such as Nike made some exceptions and where they put the same amount of quality and effort along with features found in separate products for women is for their muslim/modest wear.

lol I probably need something like pic related, because I can get a sunburn from sitting by the window for too long. I have a sunhat with a veil for this reason. Beesuit team, assemble.

lol men are not the ones to talk about women wearing “provocative gym clothes”. I see men at the gym wear shorts so tight I can see the outlines of their junk.

As long as your workout shorts aren’t so short your bootycheeks are hanging out, or your boobs are spilling halfway out of your workout tank/bra, why does it matter wtf a woman wears when she’s exercising? Why is this even a debate in the 21st century?

Good question, I’m sure the problem is men. Men are imposing this insane double standard and us girls are just trying to navigate their ad hoc modesty rules. I don’t buy that moid line of BS that women enforce these sartorial do’s and don’ts on one another more natively or fiercely than men impose it on women. (Even the conflict here between commenters is extremely tame compared to the scrotes who act like dogs trying not to steal steak off their master’s plate.)

Remember that even in the super oppressive countries with female morality police, the punishment for wearing nail polish or not wearing a headscarf is imposed by the men. And also, the rules of modesty in those societies are imposed by men, too.

Australian males wear what we call "budgie smugglers" for swimming that leave nothing to the imagination.

Teehee “budgie smugglers” lmao Australians are so friggin cute it’s unreal

They should wear petticoats and shit, lest they tempt my Christian values.

You’ll just arouse the petticoat and modesty fetishists and then they will blame you for that. This is a no-win situation my friends. Let us not fight about clothing, it’s a moid trick to turn women against each other.

 

[FiveStarAce]

These idiots. Aside from the obvious "ooh I can't help myself like any normal male why must they be such temptresses" garbage, the "these days" and "I yearn for the old days when men did not have to be so forced into lust in their heart" sticks in my craw.

Here are some recreational/ casual/ workout outfits (and even one work uniform) from 40-80 years ago. Form-fitting, skin-showing, body outlining. Random selection. And yet somehow, even despite compression bras being the norm in tops now and absent in these, it's "oh, modern society sluts in their midriff-baring tops and spandex bottoms ruin my purity, the sky is falling, I can't be blamed, etc."


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Can't people just enjoy sexiness without going full coomer Mode? Just don't overdo it and keep some class.

 

[Mr Bones Wild Ride]

??? I did say they can look away but it's still in public and you do notice the way people are dressed around you. I, as a woman, find it uncomfortable when people are dressed with their bits hanging out or in skintight clothing and I do notice if someone is in front of me at the grocery store with their ass cheeks hanging out.

The world doesn't exist to make you feel comfortable lmao. You might realise that if you got out more. I fail to see how other peoples clothing impacts your day unless you've got fucking autism.

It's not like shooting up heroin or taking a shit in the street. It's other peoples clothing.
I've heard bitter shrews make the same arguments about breastfeeding - "I can see her breasts! What if a man sees? It makes me uncomfortable"

The answer is quite obvious: Eat a bag of dicks, cunt.

If I had a husband who was standing right next to me I would be twice as uncomfortable, even if I knew he would never say or do anything to that woman.

Sounding like a pick me there.

Why would this bother you? Weren't we both talking yesterday about security in relationships and how pick mes have none?
Why does another woman having her breasts out/butt out make you uncomfortable around a partner?

Unless your relationship isn't all that great and you don't actually trust the dude you're with?

I don't want men walking around in skintight pants showing their dick outline either because that's just not something I want to see and I don't think it's nice to subject other people to that

Lol calm down.
Last I checked you weren't supreme ruler of the planet and you don't get to dictate what other people exercise in or what they wear outside.

Besides your initial argument was literally "Moid was right, I can see how a WOMAN'S scrunch leggings might upsetty the MAN and there is NO REASON for harlots to wear that shit"
Bitch, plenty of us here gave you reasons and showed examples of both sexes wearing tight clothing (including historical examples) so you've doubled down on your "it makes me uncomfy".
And? Learn to cope.

So how far is this supposed to go tho? You could make this argument for full on nudism too.

Strawman.
And no one argues for that anyway, plenty of nomadic tribes and shit still cover up their genitals because of sweat/grime/dirt/moisture.

Whitey didn't invent clothing, dumbarse.

Technically you are just "existing as a human being" when you walk naked into a grocery store and it's everyone elses problem if they are bothered by it?

See above.

I am not arguing for enforcing any kind of modesty laws I think I said that several times, I still think it's rude to make others around you uncomfortable by walking around half naked.

And Muzzies, incels etc think it's RUDE and HARAM that that anyone make them feel uncomfortable.

I couldn't tell you what anyone was wearing today because lmao who fucking cares.

What a bizarre thing to harp on about.
The only women I've even known who fixate on the clothing choices of others are insecure trollops.

Yeah idk why you are putting all these words in my mouth but you're being extremely aggressive and retarded for no reason. Next you'll say that me saying I find it inappropriate when people dress in bra and butt-scrunch-shorts in public means women deserve to get raped or whatever.

I wasn't the only one that noticed the inconsistencies in the arguments you were making. I was just the one to specifically call you out about it.

Fuck off.

Naw, did I touch a nerve?

I understand you feel personally attacked because you walk around like that and apparently it's normal in Australia and no man sees a half naked woman and has sexual thoughts about her (lmao).

Now who's putting words in the mouths of others.

I don't doubt that they do, but they either don't care or know to keep their fucking mouths shut about it because it's such a whiny bitch thing to care about.

 

[Lidl Drip]

@Mr Bones Wild Ride You're clearly just a retard who wants to argue with people, I'm not indulging this, my stance is perfectly reasonable.

 

[Ass Dan]

Pearl clutching over what other people wear is cringe boomer and moid behavior. Look at something else if it bothers you so much.

 

[Mr Bones Wild Ride]

@Mr Bones Wild Ride You're clearly just a retard who wants to argue with people, I'm not indulging this, my stance is perfectly reasonable.

I call out dumbfuck behaviour and have never claimed otherwise.

You didn't have a problem with this when I was telling off the moids for their testerical meltdowns involving rumours about you - but now I'm just a retard who wants to argue.

Riiiight sis

Also, that whole statement is so fucking canned I thought for a second that paedo who argues about age of consent laws was posting in here:

Your accusations remain as baseless as ever. I apologize for nothing.

Imma call yours the Femcel Version of the Nonce Response.

 

[Lurker]

it's not wrong to be bothered by someone dressed inappropriately

retards in this thread getting mad because a woman thinks that certain articles of clothing look trashy on women. so? that's her opinion. she's not suggesting we institute sharia law, she's just saying that she finds it uncomfortable.

stop overreacting.

 

[Mr Bones Wild Ride]

it's not wrong to be bothered by someone dressed inappropriately

That's literally the argument for Burqas.

Who decides what is and isn't appropriate? And which comfort level are we using again?

And it isn't "wrong" but it sure is bitter harpy energy

retards in this thread getting mad because a woman thinks that certain articles of clothing look trashy on women. so? that's her opinion. she's not suggesting we institute sharia law, she's just saying that she finds it uncomfortable.

No one is getting mad here lmao.
Stop taking the internet so seriously for fucks sake.

I'm/We're allowed to disagree with her even if you don't like it and it has no relationship to emotional investment in the arguments presented.

She quite literally said in the Man Hate thread that she agreed with a man who didn't like how a woman was dressed because it made him uncomfortable and it makes her uncomfortable.
I disagree and think that's stupid and have said so and given reasons why.

stop overreacting.

What are you even talking about?
Who is overreacting again?

 

[Lurker]

That's literally the argument for Burqas.

Who decides what is and isn't appropriate? And which comfort level are we using again?

No one is getting mad here lmao.
Stop taking the internet so seriously for fucks sake.

I'm/We're allowed to disagree with her even if you don't like it and it has no relationship to emotional investment in the arguments presented.

She quite literally said in the Man Hate thread that she agreed with a man who didn't like how a woman was dressed because it made him uncomfortable and it makes her uncomfortable.
I disagree and think that's stupid and have said so and given reasons why.

What are you even talking about?
Who is overreacting again?

you're a self-admitted gymrat who wears clothing that someone like Lidl would find trashy.

I think that's why you're being unreasonably autistic about this. Stay off the gear.

By the way, if someone's opinion about the clothing you personally wear makes you upset, that's a YOU problem.

 

[Kermit the Impaler]

This entire conversation was stupid because men are trash and will eroticize anything women wear. See hijabi porn..

The real issue is, women have been showing more and more skin than men since the eighties. Even normal clothing for women has shorter sleeves, shorter legs (men don't wear capris), etc. Womens' clothing is usually close fitting, men's baggy or loose fitting. Is this because women have been socialized to show more and more skin or men have been socialized to show less or both?