2016 US Presidential Election Thread 2 - Always Darkest before Don

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=Yeah who cares about Bill, it's not like Hillary has protected him for 30 years. And as everyone knows, the president's spouse never has any influence in politics.

He's not on the ticket. So what is your point about Bill Clinton, a very popular figure in US politics, more popular than Trump, Pence, Ryan, McConnell, Bush Jr, Bush Sr, Dan Quayle, I can go on and on and on, again? Is it you didn't like the eight years of peace and unprecedented economic growth and prosperity in the modern era he oversaw? Do you hate America or something?

Regan's dead, Nancy is too, time to stop dry humping the corpses' (plural) leg people, it's 2016 and Donald needs his turn for luck tonight in Nevada if he's going to KO a girl once and for all in this thing.
 
Lol, you feigning outrage over sexual assault is pretty amazing considering who you are backing

Yeah who cares about Bill, it's not like Hillary has protected him for 30 years. And as everyone knows, the president's spouse never has any influence in politics. If she wasn't the first lady Hillary definitely would have been able to push through her joke of a healthcare system that fucked over the most disadvantaged even more than the previous healthcare system. Definitely.
My outrage is Trump's hypocritical nature. Trump projected this image of a monster, then turns and somehow managed to handle his own accusers in an even shittier way. But explain how Trump gets a free pass but his rival's husband doesn't
 
At first, I thought the reaction to trump winning would be the more hilarious of the two, but I think Trump supporters having a a meltdown will be more funny at this point.

If Hillary loses there will be massive rioting and chimpouts along with limp-wristed ITS CURRENT YEARing. I can't see a Trump defeat producing nearly as much drama.
 
And this is the reality

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Still higher than the chance of winning 6 coin flips in a row.
 
Regan's dead, Nancy is too, time to stop dry humping the corpses' (plural) leg people, it's 2016 and Donald needs his turn for luck tonight in Nevada if he's going to KO a girl once and for all in this thing.
I didn't mention Reagan? I tell you what though, if Nancy was running for president you better believe I would.
He's not on the ticket. So what is your point about Bill Clinton, a very popular figure in US politics, more popular than Trump, Pence, Ryan, McConnell, Bush Jr, Bush Sr, Dan Quayle, I can go on and on and on, again? Is it you didn't like the eight years of peace and unprecedented economic growth and prosperity in the modern era he oversaw? Do you hate America or something?
What is my point about Bill Clinton? I mentioned it in the previous post. He is a narcissistic sexual predator who, despite how comfortable you might have been during the nineties, absolutely fucked the lower classes with his welfare reform and the escalation of the war on drugs, and allowed his wife to fuck them even harder with her healthcare reform. He accepted money from China to aid his defense fund and continues to accept money from foreign nations through the Clinton foundation. What is your point? He was popular and his utter abandonment of the principles of the left while president (as indicated by his economic policies like the aforementioned welfare reform, his foreign policies in places like Rwanda, Bosnia and Yugoslavia, and social reforms like DOMA) didn't totally ruin America. Very persuasive.

My outrage is Trump's hypocritical nature. Trump projected this image of a monster, then turns and somehow managed to handle his own accusers in an even shittier way. But explain how Trump gets a free pass but his rival's husband doesn't
Are... Are we living in the same universe? Because in this universe the entire media apparatus is going out of its way to hold Trump accountable for everything they can find (and while I shouldn't need to say it I am sure I do, they are right to do so) while both Hillary and Bill are practically untouchable despite everything they do or have ever done. As someone here previously said, nobody cares that Hillary called black youth amoral psychopaths and laughed about not trusting polygraphs after successfully defending a man who raped a twelve year old into a coma. And you think Trump is getting a free pass?
 
Don't forget the recent wikileaks which prove that she bribed the FBI into not indicting her over her emails amongst other things and the ten thousand other scandals in there that the MSM is absolutely ignoring because they are part of the DNC



and I mean that literally those same leaks show them coordinating and colluding with all major outlets on everything
 
Right the debate is coming up

The stakes-

Donald is in deep trouble. Polling averages put him a massive 7 points down and that's trending upwards. He's behind in nearly all battleground states bar Iowa and is jeopardy of losing states like Arizona, Georgia and maybe even Texas. His efforts to right the ship so far have been abysmal (no ground game, no self financing as he promised ect). Tonight is his last real chance bar the lizard keeling over.

Fortunate for Donald, His bar has never been set lower. All he has to do is show up and repeat 'Wikileaks' several times that that will be enough to prevent a total Clinton victory. Even then I doubt he's capable of even something that simple. Trump can't concentrate and hasn't bother preparing again. There's a solid chance he can knock Hilary on those emails and other misc issues but he'll never overcome his own failures- If he had just won the first debate he could have overtaken Hilary in the polls, the man was that close. Hilary is an abnormally weak candidate and yet he'll always come up short.

Donald will whinge about the election being stolen but ultimately Its his fault.

Drinking game


Take one drink when-
  • Donald does his special hand movements
  • When Hilary coughs.
  • When Hilary speaks for more then 30 seconds
  • When the moderator has to interrupt a candidate.
  • When ever lizards emails are mentioned.
  • Whenever mexico or the wall is brought up
  • Whenever Bill 'i did not have sex with that woman' Clinton is mentioned
  • Whenever free trade is mentioned

Take two drinks when-
  • Donald's rapist tendencies come up
  • When BENGHAZI is mentioned
  • When candidates start shouting over each-other.
  • When Chris Wallace makes that 'i want to die' look

Down the whole bottle when
  • Trump has a CWC style meltdown
  • Hilary faints
  • If pepe comes up (even in passing)
 
Right the debate is coming up

The stakes-

Donald is in deep trouble. Polling averages put him a massive 7 points down and that's trending upwards. He's behind in nearly all battleground states bar Iowa and is jeopardy of losing states like Arizona, Georgia and maybe even Texas. His efforts to right the ship so far have been abysmal (no ground game, no self financing as he promised ect). Tonight is his last real chance bar the lizard keeling over.

Fortunate for Donald, His bar has never been set lower. All he has to do is show up and repeat 'Wikileaks' several times that that will be enough to prevent a total Clinton victory. Even then I doubt he's capable of even something that simple. Trump can't concentrate and hasn't bother preparing again. There's a solid chance he can knock Hilary on those emails and other misc issues but he'll never overcome his own failures- If he had just won the first debate he could have overtaken Hilary in the polls, the man was that close. Hilary is an abnormally weak candidate and yet he'll always come up short.

Donald will whinge about the election being stolen but ultimately Its his fault.

Drinking game


Take one drink when-
  • Donald does his special hand movements
  • When Hilary coughs.
  • When Hilary speaks for more then 30 seconds
  • When the moderator has to interrupt a candidate.
  • When ever lizards emails are mentioned.
  • Whenever mexico or the wall is brought up
  • Whenever Bill 'i did not have sex with that woman' Clinton is mentioned
  • Whenever free trade is mentioned

Take two drinks when-
  • Donald's rapist tendencies come up
  • When BENGHAZI is mentioned
  • When candidates start shouting over each-other.
  • When Chris Wallace makes that 'i want to die' look

Down the whole bottle when
  • Trump has a CWC style meltdown
  • Hilary faints
  • If pepe comes up (even in passing)
I cringed.
 
I'll say it again. When Trump ends up winning, the closing of everyone's mouths are going to be so good.

I don't give two flying fucks what Silver says, ELEVEN PERCENT CHANCE IS STILL A CHANCE!
 
Also you'd think the foreigner so obsessed about American politics that he's written thousands of posts about it for a cumulative length that rivals War & Peace would have figured out by now that it's Hillary with two Ls.

'Oh man I can't get enough of that Marnie Sanders he's all I think about! I hope he becomes prime minister!!'


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I didn't mention Reagan? I tell you what though, if Nancy was running for president you better believe I would.

What is my point about Bill Clinton? . . . He is a narcissistic sexual predator who, despite how comfortable you might have been during the nineties, absolutely fucked the lower classes with his welfare reform and the escalation of the war on drugs, and allowed his wife to fuck them even harder with her healthcare reform. He accepted money from China to aid his defense fund and continues to accept money from foreign nations through the Clinton foundation. What is your point? He was popular and his utter abandonment of the principles of the left while president (as indicated by his economic policies like the aforementioned welfare reform, his foreign policies in places like Rwanda, Bosnia and Yugoslavia, and social reforms like DOMA) didn't totally ruin America. Very persuasive.

I was mentioning Regan because the purple sorcerer brought him up wistfully, but it is nice to know you're pining for just say no Nancy though, her legacy will always live on even if Scalia isn't anymore.

My point is that Bill Clinton is not on the ticket so 'his' welfare reform that was passed with a majority of Republican votes and signed by him falls to the other side of the left/right paradigm this election when it comes time to lay it at some feet, as does DOMA, and if you think policing operations in those nations were something to be worried about you must really be climbing the walls over preemptive war in Iraq started by the guy Obama replaced and led to the rise of those ever so scary caliphate establishing assholes, huh?

As for tonight's debate, I expect a battle royal of, yes, I'm going there, epic proportions and Clinton needs to stay contained/polite until the very end when she can directly, this one time only and to his face, cut Trump off at the knees verbally to make the butt-hurt flow. If she calls him Pmurt I'll commit voter fraud for her gladly in celebration (no not really).

Donald has to make his 'you belong in jail because' routine actually stick because he's based his last hurrah on it after going soft on her in the first encounter and now it's prove and show time for his homework. Oh that's right, he doesn't do any homework for these things, well, it could get ugly(ier) tonight for him then. I think he's just in this to set up his daughter to run in eight years for the same office anyway, and would, at this point, consider him successful on that front if that's really his long-term game plan for this entire affair.
 
I hope somebody, ANYBODY, brings up the fact that yesterday the Clinton camp leaked fecal matter all over the streets of a Georgia town.
 
Fortunate for Donald, His bar has never been set lower. All he has to do is show up and repeat 'Wikileaks' several times that that will be enough to prevent a total Clinton victory. Even then I doubt he's capable of even something that simple. Trump can't concentrate and hasn't bother preparing again.
Trump's problem isn't that he is focused on, or bad at, steering the conversation toward Hillary's scandals, imo. In fact, I'd say he does a decent job of it.

I think the real problem is that he has consistently had a "worse" scandal in the public eye. Hillary has some scandals, but they are more difficult for the general public to parse; a large sector of the electorate doesn't know what wikileaks or an email server even is, so it is more difficult to get them to care.

But that Trump tape talking about grabbing women by the pussy is something every single voter can easily grasp and understand. Moreover, sex sells for the media far better than emails (or anything else, really). The result is that the Trump scandal dominated the media cycle and had a larger impact on voters on average than Clinton's. This may or may not be fair, but it does seem to be an undeniable fact that the media and voters care more about Trump grabbing women by the pussy than Clinton's emails or wikileaks. It also goes without mentioning that 'values voters' like Christian conservatives will have an almost visceral disgust about any hint of sexual immorality.

What Trump needs to do tonight, imo, is to avoid saying anything to further alienate values voters and above all to avoid breathing any more life into the 'grab em by the pussy' story. He won't be able to effectively focus attention onto Clinton otherwise.
 
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