Culture Warhammer 40,000 has slightly more women in it now and the neckbeards aren't happy - We're still not at "female space marines" but give it time.

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Since Warhammer 40,000's 10th edition was released last year, each of the wargame's factions has been getting the traditional rules refresh in the form of a new Codex book. The latest deals with the Adeptus Custodes, genetically engineered bodyguards of the Emperor so gigantic they make space marines look weedy. (They also happen to be Henry Cavill's army of choice). There are 10,000 of them and in the past they've only ever been depicted as men. In this latest iteration, shock horror, at least two of the Custodes are women.

Most players seem to have responded to this by shrugging and getting back to arguing about the new rules, but there's always a vocal minority who go on a tear. The Mail Online ran a typically subtle and understated headline that declared "It's Wokehammer!" and the meme community Grimdank has declared posts about "Femstodes" will only be allowed for one week before they join "Female Space Marine posts" as a banned topic. Games Workshop's official response is a tweet that says, "In regards to female Custodians, there have always been female Custodians, since the first of the Ten Thousand were created."

Is this a retcon? Yep, and it won't be the last. Warhammer 40,000 has had fluid "lore" right from the start. The original Custodian Guards were depicted as shirtless hunks who never leave Earth—a long way from the heavily armored galaxy-spanning golden gods they became—to say nothing of tweaks to the 40K canon like ditching half-eldar space marines and rewriting the Horus Heresy from a short story a handful of pages long into a series of 60+ novels.

The Adeptus Custodes aren't 40K's only genetically engineered supersoldiers, of course. The setting's flagship faction are the space marines, who are created differently—where Custodes are enhanced via a unique process begun when they're infants, space marines begin being grafted with a "gene-seed" when they're on the verge of puberty. And while the explanation that space marine gene-seeds are "keyed to male hormones and tissue types" goes back a way, it's not the real reason Games Workshop made a whole army of dudes who are men.

As GW's former head of IP Alan Merrett once explained on Facebook, "The reason there aren't female Space Marines has nothing to do with lore, or background or character of Marines. It's to do with [the] simple logistics of making miniatures and selling miniatures." In the 1980s GW sold miniatures in sets called blister packs, and as Merrett explained "the intention was that upwards of 25% of all models would be female." That didn't last because "retailers kept complaining to us that customers weren't buying the female models and could we not include any in their restocks." By the time Warhammer 40,000 was designed, GW made sure its poster boys were, well, boys to ensure they'd sell. As Merrett put it, "All the background fluff about why there are only male Marines is there to justify a commercial logistics issue."

And the same was true of the Adeptus Custodes, until it wasn't. Though the customers at the average Warhammer shop are mostly men, these days there are usually one or two women as well. And the men are a lot less likely to throw a hissy-fit about having women in their armies than gamers in the 1980s, despite what Reddit and Twitter might suggest. All of 40K's lore and storytelling exists to provide context for selling toy soldiers to people, and as the customer base changes so too will that lore.

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All this Femstodes stuff bothers me more then standard and I haven't played since 5th ed

The Bolter Bitches are a really interesting idea and if GW could be bothered to make them fun to play and more then just a gimmick they probably would sell much better.

I mean come on now hot babes with power armor who have a fetish for flamethrowers and high heels? Using religious overtones and catholic gothic designs feature gold and black?

It's a license to print money but the nuns with guns have always been the beaten redheaded retarded step child of GW so never really bloomed.

I blame Ward
I honestly don't think it's the Femstodes themselves that are pissing people off, it's how the Twitter account approached it. The gaslighting is what people hate, GW could have just pulled a "Hey, turns out you can make Femstodes, things are getting bad enough for the Imperium to try." From the sounds of it, the updated army list probably sucks anyways, maybe they're hoping the tourists will actually buy something.
 
I've been hearing about 40k imploding.

Some troon took over the fan communities using threats of blacklisting from GW.
The communities utterly emptied after and are ghost towns.

I'm sure there are more "women" now. All the men have left for greener pastures. (Wouldn't ya know it.. theres a new dystopian galactic empire with "Managed Democracy" they can go to)
 
Uh... no, unless they're smudging the numbers with 'real women'. There's definitely a lot of cat anus mouthed trannies on social media sneering about their girldick armies. There has been an increase in actual women 'getting into' 40k but they're the fujoshis that randomly infest stuff like CoD once they get the vaguest whiff of bromance. They just draw and write about femboy Marines and love antagonizing the actual fanbase. In this sense they're the same as troons.
 
Sorry but I can't empathize with these characters, they don't look like me.
The Gretchin are already representing you.

Are men allowed to have even one single thing or does literally 100% of all media and pop culture have to be female oriented and turned into a generic girlie brand?
IT'S MALE 40K spergs who are pushing for this shit. How about men stop trooning out? How about you push trooned out men out of the community then? Of course not, all you can do is complaining about women.
 
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I fully support embracing accelerationism to help cleanse the nerd spaces of the troons and their adjacents, bring in FSM and all that other crap to drive off the loyal fans who keep buying the models and then when they realise that the people who actually buy their stuff they'll either suck it up and roll back their decisions or go under and someone else can have a crack at ruining the IP.
 
What they'll do is introduce a black 14 year old girl with a 6000 IQ who has to study in secret because waycism. Then one day she'll invent a potion that fixes the emperor or she'll create a device that makes the emperor channeling the Astronomican unnecessary or some other lore-shattering deus ex machina.

The story will end with her smugly noting that the "white dudes" only respect her now that she came to their rescue and using some form of the phrase "work twice as hard to get half as far".
Still better then original warhammer ending.
 
I don't consider Slaaneshi-converted men as women. Also, TTS is the only true continuity now.

Your close but missing the real point.

It's not about men, it's about You having no refuge from the politics of progressivism. No where to turn to escape the drumbeat of ideologically driven narrative. No hidey hole to enjoy time away from the culture war. Just a constant stream of ideology poured into every facet of life so you can never get away from it

We've always been at war with East Asia.
If they're insistent on hugging the cactus, let them. Since Tumblr won't leave us alone, then its key to turn everything into 4chan. Make the whole process of Tumblrizing everything into a nightmare for them.

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And last I checked, their sensibilities remain the same as it did back then. They get triggered by everything.
 
IT'S MALE 40K spergs who are pushing for this shit. How about men stop trooning out? How about you push trooned out men out of the community then? Of course not, all you can do is complaining about women.

The troons aren't a big enough part of the market to drive sales. See upthread where stores are asking GW to stop shipping them female units because they aren't selling. What has happened is the leadership of GW has gone woke, and they're trying to figure out a way to force this crap down the players' throats without destroying their company. The reason players can't stop it is players don't own the IP. If GW destroys Warhammer, it's over. It's done. Nobody can bring it back.
 
Why the fuck do they need female space marines? I admit I know fuckall about 40K, but isn't the Adeptas Sororitas already full of bad-ass broads who are so crazy and violent even the space marines look at them with awe and reverence?

Oh wait, they're not "girlboss" types. They're 100% devoted to serving the Emperor with every breath, even if it means consigning themselves to an agonizing death in battle to repent of any weaknesses they succumb to. And we can't have stronk wahmen being that devoted to no HUWHYTE MAN, can we?
 
I don't consider Slaaneshi-converted men as women. Also, TTS is the only true continuity now.


If they're insistent on hugging the cactus, let them. Since Tumblr won't leave us alone, then its key to turn everything into 4chan. Make the whole process of Tumblrizing everything into a nightmare for them.

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And last I checked, their sensibilities remain the same as it did back then. They get triggered by everything.

This would work in theory if (and it's a big IF) these fuckers actually cared about 40K. They don't, it's just another front in the culture war to them.

They will be just as happy to see it burned to the ground rather then leave it as a refuge for the chads. If they can't have control of it then it's of no use and so they'd bankrupt GW and laff on the way home as they pat themselves on the back for taking away another cherished chad hobby.

These people want you dead, they want your kids trooned out, they want your hobbies converted into propaganda and when everything is burnt to the ground and 40K is no more they will move on and laugh...mission accomplished.

They are vandals in the classical sense...they want nothing more then to destroy what you love just because you love it.
 
The troons aren't a big enough part of the market to drive sales. See upthread where stores are asking GW to stop shipping them female units because they aren't selling. What has happened is the leadership of GW has gone woke, and they're trying to figure out a way to force this crap down the players' throats without destroying their company. The reason players can't stop it is players don't own the IP. If GW destroys Warhammer, it's over. It's done. Nobody can bring it back.
Its always amusing to see people running public companies who are legally required to be profitable but have inherently anti-capitalist mindsets trying to hop through these hoops to have their ideological delusion come true
 
I mean what a weird coincidence right? Two massive drivers of the ESG scam buy into your company and suddenly "there have always been female space marines". Talk about timing.
I would agree, but the writing was on the wall when Anita Sarkeesian, Zoe Quinn & Randi Harper were getting personal guided tours of the Games Workshop headquarters a decade ago after getting famous in Gamergate fake scandals. It was painfully obvious then which side their retard bread was buttered on.

There is only one response:

All Hail Space King!
I love the tail end of that: "There's already enough cartoons that carter to mentally ill teenage girls, what about mentally ill teenage boys? And 30 year old men? Don't we matter too?" :story:
 
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I wonder how this will go. There has been a trend recently of progressivism causing companies to have a hard time.

If you are Game's Workshop how do you fix this? And if you don't how much damage does it do?
IT'S MALE 40K spergs who are pushing for this shit. How about men stop trooning out? How about you push trooned out men out of the community then? Of course not, all you can do is complaining about women.
It's not people into 40K that are doing this.
I wish we could we could all collectively realize it is SOME women and SOME men ruining it for everyone.
 
I'll admit I don't know a ton about 40k lore. I don't play, couldn't paint a figure to save my life, but I definitely enjoy the universe because I'm a geek who loves weapons, mechs/power armor, and sci-fi. So correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the lore state that the Custodes are only picked as the SONS of the Great Noble Houses of Terra?
 
Listen, Warhammer bros, it's time to RETVRN TV TRVDITIVN. Come back to where it all started.

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I mean, if you want to have an irl "Imperial cult", just read about Napoléon. Studying him is most of the reason why I can't shake the French vibe in my mind for the Imperium. L'EMPEREUR PROTEGE!!!

Are you judging fetishes by their logical consistency? Nigga what is u doin
It is the mission of the Ordo Sexualem to investigate and study the sex heresies of man. But I assure you, I am no sex heretic.
 
I wonder how this will go. There has been a trend recently of progressivism causing companies to have a hard time.

If you are Game's Workshop how do you fix this? And if you don't how much damage does it do?

It's not people into 40K that are doing this.
I wish we could we could all collectively realize it is SOME women and SOME men ruining it for everyone.

Why would they fix it, it's what they want. The call is coming from inside the house. Sure maybe their social media nerd could have handled it better but in the end they made the call and choose to go woke rather then stay the course.

Do you not recall the bulletin GW put out during the summer of love? How anyone not on board with Warhammer for Everyone is not welcome and will not be missed.

They're a Britcuck company, once the old guard was gone the path was open for the new blood to start making changes. They got the ESG money now so GW can attempt to mainstream 40K and turn it into the next Marvel franchise.

GW will walk back on all the grimdark so they can suck up that sweet normie money...which of course will fail because 40K is literally nothing without the grimderp but the new blood at GW doesn't give a shit about TTG and just wants to be another Disney. At least thats my take.
 
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