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You had an 01 Ranger that got the same milage as the F150? You must have had the SINGLE, SHITTIEST Ford Ranger on planet earth buddy, because MY 01 F150 with the 4.6 v8 in it, got 12 mpg (on a good day if i remembered to sacrifice a chicken to the car gods and did a rain dance before starting it) in 2015 when i was riding that thing around. I dont think my buddy even got anywhere CLOSE to that in his ranger (with the same 4 slow) and his was lifted 6" and had 35's on it.

So my question remains are you stupid or are you just bad at math?

Dunno why you're having such a meltdown over what everyone else has already figured out, including the EPA. Small trucks have never offered a big enough mileage savings to really stand out. We haven't even gone into dealer availability, which hasn't changed at all (Ford dealers need to be physically threatened to bring in anything less than a top-spec Ranger, but will still have a couple trim levels of F-150 on the lot to choose from) People buy them for the space savings among other things.
12mpg from a 4.6
try not being so fat
 

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Dunno why you're having such a meltdown over what everyone else has already figured out, including the EPA. Small trucks have never offered a big enough mileage savings to really stand out. We haven't even gone into dealer availability, which hasn't changed at all (Ford dealers need to be physically threatened to bring in anything less than a top-spec Ranger, but will still have a couple trim levels of F-150 on the lot to choose from) People buy them for the space savings among other things.

try not being so fat
Imagine comparing 2 engines that are 0.2L bigger and thinking you made a profound discovery.

At least I have my answer.

So youre bad at math AND stupid!
 
Does it count as a declaration of war when you've already definitively won?
American stores and restaurants have been around in Europe since at least the 1970s.

Besides, the whole gist of urbanist dogma was some vast conspiracy by the oil companies and car companies in the US to get people to buy cars and stop using mass transit.

If that was true then this pinhead should have nothing to worry about.
 
A vehicle with AWD or 4x4 is a lot easier to operate than a 2-wheel only, especially in cold and wet conditions, which Ol' Blighty is no stranger to.
Yes and no. AWD or 4WD absolutely can help with driving in cold and wet conditions, but it is not a cure-all. More important to retaining control in cold & wet, in rough order of importance are:
  1. Staying calm and not making any sudden or drastic changes to power or braking. In reduced traction, at any speed, nothing will cause you lose control faster than suddenly mashing your gas or brake pedals.
  2. A familiarity with and intuition for the vehicle's handling dynamics, how they interact with point 3, below, and how that interaction changes in various road conditions. A kid with a 20-year-old Honda Civic held together with duct tape and hope, who has payed attention to how his car car interacts with the road for the past 5 year's he's driven it, is going to do far better in bad road conditions than someone who hasn't payed attention to how their SUV drives.
  3. Tires appropriate for the road conditions, be it tread pattern, compound, or other factor. They don't even have to be special snow or rain tires, they just have to not suck in the conditions they're being used. A tire appropriate to keeping a Dodge Viper attached to the road during the summer is probably the wrong tire for freezing rain.
When I lived in parts of the country that got snow and ice during the winter, time and time again, I would see the results of people who panicked. Through over-application of braking and/or power, they would turn a mild, recoverable upset into a complete loss of control that sent them off the road or into another car. In fact, in AWD or 4WD setups, panic tends to make the over-application of power even worse, because now you have all 4 corners spinning freely.

The moral quandary of pedestrian traffic lights.
The gist: traffic signals are immoral because 1. if cars didn't exist, traffic control wouldn't be needed, and 2. cars only cross the same intersection once, but pedestrians sometimes have to cross twice.
Do these niggers think that only pedestrians existed in the road before cars? That there were no dangers to crossing the road, because not even horses existed before the invention of the horseless carriage? Have they ever actually seen a horse? I'm guessing not, because anyone who has, will know a horse can fuck up a man just as easily as a car.
A tranny explains why libertarians should prefer bikes to cars.
This faggot has a poor mental model of the mindset and activities of libertarians. Or how police chases work.
Forgot to include this one in my previous post. Comes from this downdooted post / archive.
Full thread / Archive
I'll give credit that the monstrosity in the upper left actually carries a pallet, but there's no way its structure allows it to carry a particularly heavy one. Or be stable when loaded heavily.

I think people would make those sacrifices and live in the sky ghettos if the rent was cheap, but it never is.
Even if the rent was cheap, you'd still eventually get limited uptake. Not everyone wants to live in dense housing. If I had the option of a cheap apartment that was say, a 20 minute walk or 10 minute bike ride from work, or a detached house with a decent yard that was a 30 minute drive from work, and I could afford the latter, odds are I'd choose the latter. In a detached house with a yard, I can do things like have a vegetable garden, do my own car maintenance, host barbecue parties with my friends, have a dog, and so on. These are all things that dense apartment blocks tend to explicitly ban in their lease agreements. Even if they weren't banned, the kind of dense packing these faggots dream of make such activities impractical.

Does it count as a declaration of war when you've already definitively won?

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I fail to see how people having the option to own a American pickup is a threat to the Dutch way of life. Not unless the Dutch only live the way they do because they have not had the option to use a pickup for tasks to which the pickup is better suited.
 
Dunno why you're having such a meltdown over what everyone else has already figured out, including the EPA. Small trucks have never offered a big enough mileage savings to really stand out. We haven't even gone into dealer availability, which hasn't changed at all (Ford dealers need to be physically threatened to bring in anything less than a top-spec Ranger, but will still have a couple trim levels of F-150 on the lot to choose from) People buy them for the space savings among other things.

try not being so fat
Well now small trucks have thanks to the Ford Maverick hybrid. I don't have one so I can't report any hard data EPA lists it at 42mpg city and 33 highway.
 
>Bikes are practically built to evade the police
lmao what? motorbikes maybe... but if its between a black corvette i can run at 100mph on the freeway and a fucking bicycle its obvious which one is better.
>cars are terrible in a situation where you might fight the government
large 4wd cars are absolutely king in a situation like that. No war has ever been won with bikes.

this nigga is retarded
 
>Bikes are practically built to evade the police
lmao what? motorbikes maybe... but if its between a black corvette i can run at 100mph on the freeway and a fucking bicycle its obvious which one is better.
>cars are terrible in a situation where you might fight the government
large 4wd cars are absolutely king in a situation like that. No war has ever been won with bikes.

this nigga is retarded
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More like "Translated to Dutch by Google"
The guy with the Ukraine and Israel flags (amazingly) has the best take: it's an OPTION, not a REQUIREMENT. Factoring in the usual tariffs and surcharges, I don't think a whole lot will be sold, but for the Dutchman who has money and wants himself a TRUGG, it's good news. Nobody is telling urbanists they can't ride their bike but they're such pissy little princesses/fearful dolts they cry and bitch to have everything set up in their favour.

Nigga just get on it and turn the pedals! Just don't swerve in the street nigga, SHEEESH!
 
Does it count as a declaration of war when you've already definitively won?

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I'll give this guy credit though, he at least doesn't hide behind the "we just want alternatives to driving" bit and says the quiet part out loud.

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(Source 1, 2)
Pretty sure I saw a clip years ago of such a large car in the Netherlands specifically, being towed cause it did not fit into the booth AND was in the way of a tram which is apparently a fuck-off huge fine. That said, I do see the big Tesla trucks here in northern europe and it's baffling. The car isn't even big and roomy, it's just big. Big boned. Nobody should want that car. Isn't the point of a Tesla to own a nice slim sports car?
 
Pretty sure I saw a clip years ago of such a large car in the Netherlands specifically, being towed cause it did not fit into the booth AND was in the way of a tram which is apparently a fuck-off huge fine. That said, I do see the big Tesla trucks here in northern europe and it's baffling. The car isn't even big and roomy, it's just big. Big boned. Nobody should want that car. Isn't the point of a Tesla to own a nice slim sports car?
The carfuckers aren't wrong that a large part of car purchases once you get above "baseline" (so into the various luxury trim levels and $60k+) is making a statement about yourself and how you want to be perceived.

What's hilarious is they're so threatened by it all, they're so damn sure that transit and small cars and walkable cities are so undesirable that if anyone is offered another option (the evil F150) they will immediately take it.
 
The carfuckers aren't wrong that a large part of car purchases once you get above "baseline" (so into the various luxury trim levels and $60k+) is making a statement about yourself and how you want to be perceived.

What's hilarious is they're so threatened by it all, they're so damn sure that transit and small cars and walkable cities are so undesirable that if anyone is offered another option (the evil F150) they will immediately take it.
There's also the "trucks want to murder me" angle. (Not they aren't finding good reasons to.)
 
There's also the "trucks want to murder me" angle. (Not they aren't finding good reasons to.)
Everyone has a difficulty discussion things and ascribes way too much agency to things that aren't happening all that frequently (let's piss everyone off) - if all truck drivers were out to kill pedestrians, there'd be millions of dead pedestrians every day until there were none left; if all immigrants were out to murder everyone'd be dead; if all niggers were gung-ho on murdering whitey one or other of those groups would be entirely wiped out.

I think what they're trying to argue is that removing external force all truck drivers would run over pedestrians, but even that is too strong - at worst, the drivers don't even give a shit or notice pedestrians (and often because pedestrians are fucking insane idiots).

Everyone likes bringing up a problem and then boiling the solution down to "remove X" where X may or may not be directly related to what is going on and what they really want to reduce. Sometime hypotheticals can expose this: "Would you take a world where everyone drove F150s but there were no pedestrian deaths ever" and watch the screetching.
 
American cars were always populaire in the Benelux especially Netherlands especially anything with American V8's. But rarely affordable because for the most part. Throughout decades you had to more often then not either import one yourself or go to a import speciallist. And that add the cost to already high Dutch car mark up's which are ridiculously high due to VAT and especially BPM taxes. Add on top of that road the taxation and higher insurances and other shit.

Now, it's not like GM and Chrysler didn't offer on occasion American offerings of their cars since at least the 50's. But due to small dealer and service network (Which rarely did service on legacy models to boot.) which they tended to expand and than reduce all in the same decade every decade as if they couldn't make up their minds. either. And limited offerings of ranges and specs. They self sabotaged themselves. No advertisement didn't help

Why the current "craze" of American pickups showing up more and more on Dutch streets ? Is well for two reasons. First reason is that there are more import specialists that can import cars a lot cheaper now and their is a decent service network for imported Americana cars. Secondly the pickup trucks can be applied to grey number plates. Which is a number plate for Bedrijfswagen (commercial vehicles) which have their own separate lower taxation class.

You could also register a sedan or a SUV for commercial use depending what you do. (say if you have a job that requires you to make a lot of milage).


Personally, i'm fucking glad some americana is back on the streets. Less fucking Volvo's and German shit please.
 
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Jason continues pushing the idea that big loud car/truck drivers are sadistic, psychopathic men. He very clearly has a lot of self-hatred at worst and a massive complex at best.

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He's talked about this exact subject a bunch of times before, most of which has been mentioned here at some point but I wanna highlight one instance that I don't think has been that always stuck out to me. On his podcast he talks about trucks being symbols for men, during which he also alludes to a conversation he had with "a trans woman", which I could be reading too much into but based on the weird coy way he talks about it and considering he's living in Amsterdam, I'm 90% sure he's talking about having sex with a prostitute here.



NotJustBikes said:
I had a conversation once about trucks as this symbol of masculinity, and I was having this conversation with a trans woman, and it was very very funny. I'm not going to go into the full thing here because I know I'll get canceled for the seventh time, but she was saying that you don't feel masculine enough, so you need the truck to feel like- that you need to present yourself as more masculine than you are, and I thought that was just so funny.

Honestly I don't know what's sadder, the tranny prostitute sex when he's married with kids, or the fact that he couldn't even do that without his insane car hatred seeping through.

(Source 1, 2)
 
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