Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

[AnOminous]

Hey we don’t tolerate kink shaming around here pal.

We do, though. Kinks are for degenerate fags.

 

[Nicholas II of Russia]

POV: You're a Swiss woman minding her own business, and you're going to have the worst day of your life.

 

[AltisticRight]

POV you are William Fong.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Something that occurred to me is that troons, particularly Elliot, live in the moment. They get the cock chop and pump their bodies full of poison and call it "affirming" because their bodies are young and able to take the abuse. But they never think about what happens when they're old and frail. What does a septic wound mean when you're a boomer and have a weakened immune system? What do estrogen-induced bone problems mean when you're a decrepit old guy with arthritis?

If he thinks his life sucks now, he's not ready for thirty years down the line- assuming he doesn't join the 41%.

 

[Nicholas II of Russia]

Something that occurred to me is that troons, particularly Elliot, live in the moment. They get the cock chop and pump their bodies full of poison and call it "affirming" because their bodies are young and able to take the abuse. But they never think about what happens when they're old and frail. What does a septic wound mean when you're a boomer and have a weakened immune system? What do estrogen-induced bone problems mean when you're a decrepit old guy with arthritis?

If he thinks his life sucks now, he's not ready for thirty years down the line- assuming he doesn't join the 41%.

That is called consequences for their own actions. They're gonna have to deal with that in the coming years.

They're gonna suffer with weak bones, infections and possibly a thousand of diseases having to do with forcing themselves with estrogen. Their lives are going to be hell in their last years, but apparently that is the price to pay to be stunning and brave. Suicide would be a merciful exit for them.

 

[AngryTreeRat]

Something that occurred to me is that troons, particularly Elliot, live in the moment. They get the cock chop and pump their bodies full of poison and call it "affirming" because their bodies are young and able to take the abuse. But they never think about what happens when they're old and frail. What does a septic wound mean when you're a boomer and have a weakened immune system? What do estrogen-induced bone problems mean when you're a decrepit old guy with arthritis?

If he thinks his life sucks now, he's not ready for thirty years down the line- assuming he doesn't join the 41%.

We don't have a lot of the statistics yet for what happens when they get older yet. The sample size is too small to be scientific. We can make some excellent guesses like you just did, but sadly a lot of them end up dead due to suicide or drugs way before they get old enough for us to be able to start writing down these results. We like to act like this is a very recent thing, but this has been happening for decades. We should actually have a large enough sample size by now if they didn't keep dying due to joining the 41% and destructive lifestyles.

Them dying early due to non-transition induced reasons is actually very unfortunate despite how many people would love to piss on the graves of the troons, as having the actual science would help put a stop to a lot of this madness as it would peak a lot of the neutral people who aren't necessarily supporting it but don't care enough to stop it. It would also help build something to use to deflect grooming and force medical standards to have to inform them of increased risk when they insisted on the procedures.

What I can find of what their health issues are like as they get older actually required going through charity organizations. When you look at the medical charity targeted at people who transitioned sufficiently long ago and are starting to hit a certain age now you find out what they need money for, but even they don't like to post it publicly since it doesn't seem to be something they want people seeing trends of.

From what I could pick up by asking around from memory now:

• A lot of them end up needing catheters as the wound inevitably ends up healing over.
• They end up needing to be put on insane cocktails of pain medication to reduce the agony they are in.
• Vitamin and mineral supplements come up several times implying that they have some kind of nutritional breakdown.
• I noticed a suspicious trend at one point that I can't quite be sure of, but it seems like they have an abnormal rate of skin cancer.
• Mobility assistive devices start to pop up quite a bit.
• Immune suppressant drugs pop up as well as immune boosters.
• Psychiatric medication pops up quite a bit.
• Unusual levels of eye care seem to be necessary.
• Implant removal and correction surgeries occasionally pop up as an urgent specific thing they want money for, and while I do not have the numbers around the time, once I started noticing it as a frequent thing I looked into the rates that such issues happen for women with boob jobs and it just seems slightly more common with the troons.
• Injury related medical expenses seem to be a recurring issue.
• Musculature growth hormones was another thing that popped up.

This was an older project of mine to try and figure this out that went nowhere. I couldn't ever get any hard numbers and getting any idea of what the medical issues were required emailing and calling these charities and acting to role of somebody who really wants to help in hopes that they would really impress on me how much money they really needed due to how high the expenses were.

The charities involved were always very cagey and didn't really want to give answers. Even more so than most con charities. Usually when you are talking to a scam charity the people who end up having to answer your questions? Have a script that they can follow that matches some kind of public official statement that you can find on their website or that points anyone calling to their website where they will then quote it verbatim, those sometimes they might have a slightly outdated version of that section of the website or a slightly newer version that hasn't yet gone public. EVen charities that focus on the rest of the LGBTQWERTY and didn't really have any focus on troons we're able to follow this very by the books response, and if I try to say that I really wanted my money to specifically go towards trans people, they would just tell me that they did not discriminate on where the money went based on the type of LGBTQ+ individual they were.

When it come to the charities that want to really focus on the fact that they specifically help trans people, suddenly things got a lot cageier when you ask questions. Suddenly they are getting a lot more avoidant than usual, they don't have the script to follow, they can't provide additional information for various stammered out reasons, and then they start talking a lot about how they don't want to give out that information since it could be used to profile trans people putting them a danger of attack. Really the best bet is to watch medical journals that are very left-wing and trying to justify why trans people need more money. Sooner or later somebody will put out the data as part of the grift.

As things currently stand I was so dissatisfied with what information I could get that I deemed it basically useless and gave up. I don't frankly care enough to put the extra pressure needed. There's just nothing to use that I could get that is scientific and couldn't be shot down easily as anecdotal. That's the biggest shield of the troon currently from such scrutiny. You can't get the necessary numbers needed to shift neutral parties or their less entrenched allies.

 

[Procrastinhater]

The ones that get Dementia or Alzheimers seem to forget their fetish and then repeatedly freak out as they constantly Goldfish memory that they cut their dicks off, are reminded that they did it themselves, and then forget again until the next time they go to use the bathroom, and freakout all over again.
That right there sounds like its own particular brand of hell.

That right there is also among the most damning evidence that its just a fetish, people with dementia don't forget that they are gay, for instance.

 

[indomitable snowman]

That is called consequences for their own actions. They're gonna have to deal with that in the coming years.

They're gonna suffer with weak bones, infections and possibly a thousand of diseases having to do with forcing themselves with estrogen. Their lives are going to be hell in their last years, but apparently that is the price to pay to be stunning and brave. Suicide would be a merciful exit for them.

Unusual levels of eye care seem to be necessary

He does/did have some autoimmune eye issues.

The ones that get Dementia or Alzheimers seem to forget their fetish and then repeatedly freak out as they constantly Goldfish memory that they cut their dicks off, are reminded that they did it themselves, and then forget again until the next time they go to use the bathroom, and freakout all over again.
That right there sounds like its own particular brand of hell.

That right there is also among the most damning evidence that its just a fetish, people with dementia don't forget that they are gay, for instance.

Is there info about dementia patients who had other amputations like arms/legs and freaking out?

 

[Procrastinhater]

Is there info about dementia patients who had other amputations like arms/legs and freaking out?

I'm not sure about that one, but you'd think if Troons weren't lying about being "in the wrong body" or whatever shit they say to justify their LARP, then discovering that they've been castrated wouldn't disturb them, it wouldn't even occur to them, because they're True and Honest women, and it's their "natural state."
If on the other hand it is just a fetish, I can understand someone who has lost all memory of ever being brain rotted by pornography to be extremely horrified and distressed upon discovering an amhole where their penis should be.

 

[AnOminous]

That right there is also among the most damning evidence that its just a fetish, people with dementia don't forget that they are gay, for instance.

There's something fundamentally different about being a troon than just being gay.

 

[Procrastinhater]

There's something fundamentally different about being a troon than just being gay.

Exactly. A gay dude with Dementia doesn't just forget he's gay, because its part of who he is.
But when a Troon gets Dementia it makes them forget all the porn induced brainrot that induced their fetish, and once that's gone, they freak out because they don't remember castrating themselves.
Troons with Dementia freaking out at learning they've been altered is one of the best examples of how it's not really about them being the wrong sex, its a learned perversion.

 

[President Tonald Drump]

The ones that get Dementia or Alzheimers seem to forget their fetish and then repeatedly freak out as they constantly Goldfish memory that they cut their dicks off, are reminded that they did it themselves, and then forget again until the next time they go to use the bathroom, and freakout all over again.
That right there sounds like its own particular brand of hell.

That right there is also among the most damning evidence that its just a fetish, people with dementia don't forget that they are gay, for instance.

Exactly. A gay dude with Dementia doesn't just forget he's gay, because its part of who he is.
But when a Troon gets Dementia it makes them forget all the porn induced brainrot that induced their fetish, and once that's gone, they freak out because they don't remember castrating themselves.
Troons with Dementia freaking out at learning they've been altered is one of the best examples of how it's not really about them being the wrong sex, its a learned perversion.

Source? do you have any articles that talk about this?

 

[Procrastinhater]

Source? do you have any articles that talk about this?

It's turned up a few times in various threads, as I remember there was someone who worked in a care home for old people that had an old guy that would freak out at his wife saying shit like "what have you done to me?" and was convinced the staff had used him for experiments.
If I get the time I'll have a look for it.

Here's an article I found

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1363460719876835

that has some details about Troons with dementia forgetting they are Troons,

and another

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32449495/

about cognitive decline in Troons but these are not the ones I was thinking of.
If I find it I'll link it

Here's an article from the BBC of all places about how Troons can forget they've transitioned.

Dementia care advice for transgender patients drawn up

Guidance includes dealing with patients confused between their gender preference and their birth gender.

www.bbc.com

A quote from it is
"
Sean Page, consultant nurse for dementia at BCUHB, said it was important the specific needs of transgender dementia patients were met to ensure they were cared for appropriately.

He said: "As dementia progresses a person may not recall their current gender and they may see themselves being pre-transition and be surprised at the physical changes to their bodies.

"This can result in them becoming very disorientated and anxious. They may not understand why they are being referred to as being a certain gender as they cannot recall publicly voicing this preference."

Now if they were really supposed to be the sex they "transitioned to" it makes you wonder why they get so distressed.

This isn't really the subject of this thread though, whether it represents a window into Fongs future or not, if I find anymore I'll put it in the Tranny Medical Studies thread.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

"This can result in them becoming very disorientated and anxious. They may not understand why they are being referred to as being a certain gender as they cannot recall publicly voicing this preference."

So much for "being a woman trapped in a man's body."

 

[AnOminous]

"This can result in them becoming very disorientated and anxious. They may not understand why they are being referred to as being a certain gender as they cannot recall publicly voicing this preference."

When they do that, they should be beaten for being transphobic, while also being mocked and laughed at for having done that to themselves.

 

[LimeRikki]

It was the same routine every morning.

Elliot woke up slowly. That was the norm now, having somehow made it to 85. It was the same routine he had had for the past five years since being transferred to the memory care facility. He would blink a few times before pushing himself up on creaky, knobbly elbowed arms. His crotch felt strange, but he needed to find his glasses before any investigating could happen.

It was the same routine every morning. At precisely 9:15 AM a nurse walks into the room, just in time to calm Elliot's screaming.

"WHERE IS MY PENIS???!!! WHAT DID YOU DO TO ME???"

"It's ok Ms. Liz" the nurse addresses him gently, placing her small warm hand on his back in a comforting gesture. "You had it removed it in Thailand, remember?"

The screaming eventually abates into quiet weeping. In another few minutes, she will help him take his pills and applesauce, and he will sink into a stupor until she wheels him out to the community room for bingo.

It was the same routine every morning.

 

[Vect]

I think Liz has recognized that, at least for now, it's a lost fight. The momentum behind #dropkiwifarms is all gone, the reputation of its figurehead, Keffals, lies in tatters and as others have said, his minions are either being let go or being exposed as sex pests. There has also been a broad swing in public sentiment against transgender ideology and the Progressive ideals that enabled them. The time is past when troons could do obnoxious shit and expect people to look away. Even Brianna Wu has managed to notice.

I don't think he fears legal repercussion because I don't think he's done anything that could be actioned in a court of law: I think Null said the best he could accuse him of was torturous interference (and being independently wealthy he can afford quality representation), but he likely has run out of avenues to directly and covertly impact the site. The next time we end up in somebody's crosshairs though, he'll likely be waiting. For now, reality and hopefully his job I suspect are occupying his mind right now.

What does a septic wound mean when you're a boomer and have a weakened immune system? What do estrogen-induced bone problems mean when you're a decrepit old guy with arthritis?

I doubt they're even remote considerations. I mentioned this in the Chris Tyson thread but the fact that he literally can't get his dick chopped off fast enough tells me his head is just being filled with lies about some 'better than cis' superhuman vagina. Most latter day trannies are, to some extent, victims because they're barely given any warning as to short term consequences, let alone long term ones.

Liz Fong-Jones, ironically enough, was disturbingly candid about his aftercare and the pain he went through in a way that you just don't see these people bring up. The worst thing about not just trans but LGBTWTF advertising in general is that it never acknowledges the pound of flesh you pay for pursuing the fantasy of being special.

This can result in them becoming very disorientated and anxious. They may not understand why they are being referred to as being a certain gender as they cannot recall publicly voicing this preference."

Now that is fascinating. I guess you can make allowances for the fact that there is a difference between conscious (and genuine) dysphoria and all the affectations people make in response to it but the very fact that there are documented cases of people 'forgetting' their true and honest gender blows cannonballs into the troon narrative.

 

[TEA 3HF]

In the near term most troons are shitty people on a power trip taking advantage of a social trend. Thus, the idea of them waking up one day to a dementia attack that provides them a terrifying moment of clarity would be and objectively awful experience I am not entirely sure they deserve it.

Dong Gone, however would be getting precisely what he deserves. It can't happen soon enough. I hope he gets jolted around by something resembling a conscience regarding consent accidents, and my only regret is he will likely be too blind to behold what he has wrought for himself at that point.

 

[Procrastinhater]

In the near term most troons are shitty people on a power trip taking advantage of a social trend. Thus, the idea of them waking up one day to a dementia attack that provides them a terrifying moment of clarity would be and objectively awful experience I am not entirely sure they deserve it.

Dong Gone, however would be getting precisely what he deserves. It can't happen soon enough. I hope he gets jolted around by something resembling a conscience regarding consent accidents, and my only regret is he will likely be too blind to behold what he has wrought for himself at that point.

You have a good heart.
You're a far nicer person than I am. I find the idea of these perverted eunuch fucks waking up one morning and then spending the rest of their lives in a constant nightmare as they repeatedly forget their gross LARP and why they have an amhole where their dick should be fucking hilarious. If they kept to themselves it would be one thing but these fucks go out of their way to groom and corrupt kids, and make no mistake, anyone of them would see our lives ruined and us enjoying prison just for posting on this Forum and laughing at them.
They get what the fuckin deserve.

 

[Joe Cool]

The ones that get Dementia or Alzheimers seem to forget their fetish and then repeatedly freak out as they constantly Goldfish memory that they cut their dicks off, are reminded that they did it themselves, and then forget again until the next time they go to use the bathroom, and freakout all over again.

Strikes right at the heart of this being about identity. I'd wager observing something similar in troons who get stone cold drunk.