US Biden Calls for 44.6% Capital Gains Tax Rate, Highest Capital Gains Tax Since Its Creation in 1922 - Adding this tax rate the state capital gains tax: the Biden combined federal-state rate would exceed 50% in many states

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And don’t forget to add the state capital gains tax: the Biden combined federal-state rate would exceed 50% in many states

President Biden has formally proposed the highest top capital gains tax in over 100 years.

Here is a direct quote from the Biden 2025 budget proposal: “Together, the proposals would increase the top marginal rate on long-term capital gains and qualified dividends to 44.6 percent.”

Yes, you read that correctly: A Biden top capital gains and dividends tax rate of 44.6%.

Under the Biden proposal, the combined federal-state capital gains tax exceeds 50% in many states. California will face a combined federal-state rate of 59%, New Jersey 55.3%, Oregon at 54.5%, Minnesota at 54.4%, and New York state at 53.4%.

Worse, capital gains are not indexed to inflation. So Americans already get stuck paying tax on some “gains” that are not real. It is a tax on inflation, something created by Washington and then taxed by Washington. Biden’s high inflation makes this especially painful.

Many hard working couples who started a small business at age 25 who now wish to sell the business at age 65 will face the Biden proposed 44.6% top rate, plus state capital gains taxes. And much of that “gain” isn’t real due to inflation. But they’ll owe tax on it.

Capital gains taxes are often a form of double taxation. When capital gains come from stocks, stock mutual funds, or stock ETFs, the capital gains tax is a cascaded second layer of tax on top of the current federal corporate income tax of 21%. (Biden has also proposed a corporate income tax hike to 28%).

The proposed Biden top capital gains tax rate is more than twice as high as China’s rate. China’s capital gains tax rate is 20%. Is it wise to have higher taxes than China? And with Biden’s combined federal-state capital gains rate of 59% in California, residents will face a rate nearly three times as high as China.

The capital gains tax was created as its own tax in 1922, at a rate of 12.5%. See the chart below to see how Biden’s proposed capital gains tax for 2025 puts the United States in uncharted territory.

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Biden’s proposed capital gains tax hike will also hit many families when parents pass away. Biden has proposed adding a second Death Tax (separate from and in addition to the existing Death Tax) by taking away stepped-up basis when parents die. This would result in a mandatory capital gains tax at death — a forced realization event.

As previously reported by CNBC:

“When someone dies and the asset transfers to an heir, that transfer itself will be a taxable event, and the estate is required to pay taxes on the gains as if they sold the asset,” said Howard Gleckman, senior fellow in the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center.

Biden’s proposal to take away stepped-up basis has already been tried, and it failed: In 1976 congress eliminated stepped-up basis but it was so complicated and unworkable it was repealed before it took effect.

As noted in a July 3, 1979 New York Times article, it was “impossibly unworkable.”

NYT wrote:

Almost immediately, however, the new law touched off a flood of complaints as unfair and impossibly unworkable. So many, in fact, that last year Congress retroactively delayed the law’s effective date until 1980 while it struggled again with the issue.

As noted by the NYT, intense voter blowback ensued:

Not only were there protests from people who expected the tax to fall on them — family businesses and farms, in particular — bankers and estate lawyers also complained that the rule was a nightmare of paperwork.

Biden’s 2025 budget calls for about $5 trillion in tax increases over the next decade.

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The good news is that this will only affect the rich. The bad news is, you're now considered "the rich".

The income tax was initially just a couple percent, and only for the top 1% gorillionaires. Then millionaires, then hundred thousandaires, because there's never an amount they can't outspend. So assume the second they get something passed they'll immediately start pushing that $1 million threshold down toward the upper middle and then middle classes.
 
Many hard working couples who started a small business at age 25 who now wish to sell the business at age 65 will face the Biden proposed 44.6% top rate, plus state capital gains taxes. And much of that “gain” isn’t real due to inflation. But they’ll owe tax on it.
A 44.6% rate is ridiculous but this argument is bullshit. Their business' value is based upon what a buyer is willing to pay given its earnings potential and assets held. If it's not making money, all the inflation in the world won't make it worth something. In fact high inflation makes it worth less due to the higher NPV rate on cash flows.

If the only thing you accomplished is an increase in value equal to inflation over 40 years, that business was at best a hobby and at worst a complete waste of time. It'd be like making the same entry level salary at 65 as you did at 25 but with 100x the work.
 
This will only affect the middle and upper middle class who owns capital investments directly.
This will not affect the upper class or the proper rich because there will be loop holes for them.
It's almost like the blatant and unabashed goal since at least 2020 was to kill off the last of the small businesses and the middle class.

Iudea Delenda Est. America Erwache.
 
Biden doing a victory lap to fart in the public's faces one additional time, knowing he can't lose a rigged game anyway.

Every enterprising person I know under the age of 50 is stuffing all their earnings into various crypo-currencies that are too difficult to trace and tax. Things have gotten so bad that internet funny money is now considered a safer bet than anything touched by the U.S. government.
 
Biden’s proposed capital gains tax hike will also hit many families when parents pass away. Biden has proposed adding a second Death Tax (separate from and in addition to the existing Death Tax) by taking away stepped-up basis when parents die. This would result in a mandatory capital gains tax at death — a forced realization event.
Estates only start paying estate tax when they're over $16 million or so. (It changes every year.) Gains would be realized, but not "recognized," as in taxable for the vast majority of the population, at least when grandpa kicks it. The tax will come due under this when the heirs sell grandpa's Coca-Cola stock with an adjusted basis of $0.27 per share (after splits), something like that. Under current law, the stock would automatically gets the basis of the closing price on the date of death of the owner and long-term capital gain treatment.

There's an even more radical proposal floating around pushed by I think Fakahauntus in the Senate and the Squad in the House to tax UNREALIZED capital gains. As in you're a long-term buy and hold investor quietly watching your portfolio of utilities stocks or whatever grow over time. They want to tax this, even if you've not traded in the account in years. Dunno what the status of that one is, but I saw something about it last month.

Most of this crap seems to kick in around $400,000 of income from what I've seen.
 
A 44.6% rate is ridiculous but this argument is bullshit. Their business' value is based upon what a buyer is willing to pay given its earnings potential and assets held. If it's not making money, all the inflation in the world won't make it worth something. In fact high inflation makes it worth less due to the higher NPV rate on cash flows.

If the only thing you accomplished is an increase in value equal to inflation over 40 years, that business was at best a hobby and at worst a complete waste of time. It'd be like making the same entry level salary at 65 as you did at 25 but with 100x the work.
I think the argument is that the nominal value of the business will be 2-4x as high after 20-40 years, before any real gains. Then you forfeit half the inflated nominal value and therefore half your purchasing power when you sell to retire. If the business grows in real terms, that too will be inflated.

With a lower cap gains rates (like the 15% it used to be before Obama's hike to 20%), you can potentially grow enough to outrun the hit to your nominal inflation, but when you're talking about 45-50% on the entire nominal value, you really have to have a huge growth in real terms to make up for it.
 
Someone is expecting a bunch of plebs to get windfalls. Bitcoin going up ?
More that it will generally as people increasingly lose faith that the Fed's money is worth anything. Easy to get ahead of people trying to protect their wealth in 20 10 5 years by getting ahead of it with a harsh tax penalty for expressing a lack of faith in The Administration
 
Someone is expecting a bunch of plebs to get windfalls. Bitcoin going up ?
Down actually. Recently reached a new ATH. I'm suspecting it'll crash again due to the constant dipping and pumping. Either that, or it's going to soar. Would rather get in late for that pump than walk right into a crash.
More that it will generally as people increasingly lose faith that the Fed's money is worth anything. Easy to get ahead of people trying to protect their wealth in 20 10 5 years by getting ahead of it with a harsh tax penalty for expressing a lack of faith in The Administration
Oh yeah, the dollar is worthless now. Has been for a long time really. It's better to pretend like it's worth something or else everything will collapse though. Fucking fiat. Who knew printing money would devalue it? Oh wait, we all did.
 
This is beyond retarded. What would such a huge tax hike even pay for? More gibs? We are already gibbing too many gibs as is. If we can't afford all the gibs, stop giving out gibs.

It would be charitable to say this hike would be to pay for all the existing gibs, but you know, and I know this will all go towards NEW gibs and to pay for the ever expanding amount of Government workers in Northern Virginia to manage all these new programs.
 
This is beyond retarded. What would such a huge tax hike even pay for? More gibs? We are already gibbing too many gibs as is. If we can't afford all the gibs, stop giving out gibs.

It would be charitable to say this hike would be to pay for all the existing gibs, but you know, and I know this will all go towards NEW gibs and to pay for the ever expanding amount of Government workers in Northern Virginia to manage all these new programs.
Super Citizen’s need temporary (as in 30-200 years) Green Housing. You don’t want to lose social credit do you? Or are you a bigot who’ll cite the 3rd Amendment when your home is volunteered to temporarily house multiple Super Citizens?
 
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