Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Rewatching Voyager and noticed it had some good takes.

Janeway vehemently against abortion
Dangers of blindly believing "sex" assault victims shown
Dangers of blindly believing medical experts shown
Dangers of how easily history is rewritten/manipulated shown

To know whats become of the series.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Voyager

There's a scene of a Voyager episode which adapted that one Gnostic belief. That belief being that the tunnel with a light at the end -- as seen in "near death experiences" -- is a trap to trick people into reincarnating, so evil entities can feed on their suffering.

Spoiler: transcript of that one scene

[Mess hall]

JANEWAY: I was right. I heard Tuvok and Chakotay and the Doctor. You're an alien. You've created all these hallucinations, haven't you?
ADMIRAL: This is what my species does. At the moment just before death one of us comes to help you understand what's happening, to make the crossing over an occasion of joy.
JANEWAY: And what is that?
(The bright light tunnel growing behind him.)
ADMIRAL: Our Matrix, where your consciousness will live. I was being truthful when I said it was a place of wonder. It can be whatever you want it to be.
JANEWAY: Then why didn't you tell me this from the beginning? Why pretend to be my father.
ADMIRAL: Usually people are comforted to see their loved ones. It makes the crossing over a much less fearful occasion. I've done this many times, but I've never encountered someone so resistant.

[Planet surface]

EMH: Something's happened. The alien presence is getting stronger again.
CHAKOTAY: Fight it, Kathryn, just a little longer.
EMH: I'll have to try a thoron pulse.

[Mess hall]

JANEWAY: My people are telling me to fight. They're trying to save me.
ADMIRAL: They're trying out of desperation. It's hopeless.
JANEWAY: You're the one who sounds desperate. I don't get the feeling you're trying to make me comfortable. You're only interested in my agreeing to come with you.
ADMIRAL: Because it's inevitable.
JANEWAY: And you don't strike me as any type of Good Samaritan. You're more like a vulture, preying on people at the moment of their death when they're at their most vulnerable.
ADMIRAL: I've waited for you. I've been patient.
JANEWAY: But your patience is wearing thin. What's the real reason you want me in that Matrix? Somehow I don't think it has anything to do with everlasting joy.
ADMIRAL: You must go with me.
JANEWAY: If you could force me to go, you'd have done it already. You need me to agree, don't you? I have to go voluntarily.
ADMIRAL: Wouldn't that be better than standing here in this endless debate?
JANEWAY: Let me tell you this. We can stand here for all eternity and I will never choose to go with you.
ADMIRAL: You're in a dangerous profession, Captain. You face death everyday. There'll be another time, and I'll be waiting. Eventually you'll come into my Matrix and you will nourish me for a long, long time.
JANEWAY: Go back to hell, coward.
(The Admiral walks into the tunnel, which is now blood red. It finally disappears.)​

- The Voyager Transcripts - Coda

 

[Molly White's Breast Milk]

Rewatching Voyager and noticed it had some good takes.

Janeway vehemently against abortion
Dangers of blindly believing "sex" assault victims shown
Dangers of blindly believing medical experts shown
Dangers of how easily history is rewritten/manipulated shown

To know whats become of the series.

S7E12 "Repentance" has the most based scene in all of Star Trek:

 

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S7E12 "Repentance" has the most based scene in all of Star Trek:

That had to have been written by a fucking time traveler.

Also thank you for ruining that trip down memory lane, was only up to midway through S5.

 

[40 Year Old Boomer]

I thought they required refrigeration suits to oh fuck it we already know the writers give no fucks about anything. Literally a wish.com Krill from The Orville.

 

[Miller]

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I thought they required refrigeration suits to oh fuck it we already know the writers give no fucks about anything. Literally a wish.com Krill from The Orville.

Wait, that's not a Breen, right?

 

[Clown College 2nd Year]

Wait, that's not a Breen, right?

It sure is, they designed the most generic green alien they could for this garbage. I'm glad this season is the last.

 

[Standardized Profile]

I did a double-take when I read the lede to this story:

Man accused of visiting Starbucks drive-thru while naked multiple times​

BROKEN ARROW, Okla. (KOKI) - An Oklahoma man is facing charges after he allegedly took multiple trips through a Starbucks drive-thru while in the nude.

Michael Billingsley is charged with indecent exposure after police say he visited a Starbucks location in Broken Arrow multiple times while fully naked.

But I was thinking of Broken Bow, and John Billingsley.

What then of our Star Trek actress who does go around exposing herself? What of Jennifer Lien? In November 2023, she caught a public intoxication charge. She owes $50 on it. She has another open PI charge from August, with two failures to appear. She was arrested for FTA in February and is out on a $6000 bond. Her next hearing is tomorrow. Wish her luck!

Spoiler: February 2024, best quality available

IMHO she looks better than she did in 2015. Less crazy, at least.

 

[Burt Ryan]

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I thought they required refrigeration suits to oh fuck it we already know the writers give no fucks about anything. Literally a wish.com Krill from The Orville.

Remember when the Breen were actually cold, killing machines?

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

Janeway vehemently against abortion

Unless its two fetuses that merge into one.

 

[NSA]

Unless its two fetuses that merge into one.
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A mixed-race person? Not on Janeway's watch!

 

[Standardized Profile]

Unless its two fetuses that merge into one.
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That was different. Tuvok was her friend and Neelix was Kes's daddy. In situations like this, feelings are more important than ethical principles.

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

A mixed-race person? Not on Janeway's watch!

Janeway allowed Tom Paris and B'Elanna Torres kid and that blond little girl that was friends with 7 of 9.

 

[indomitable snowman]

I did a double-take when I read the lede to this story:

But I was thinking of Broken Bow, and John Billingsley.

than she did in 2015. Less crazy, at least.
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They're only a 3.5 hour drive from each other. Funny thing, neither look like it does in the show.

Eastern Oklahoma is hilly and has trees as it is the edge of the Ozark and Ouachita mountains. They could have chosen something in the western half or panhandle. It's quite flat there and would have fit the Californian filming location better. But I guess the Broken Arrow sounds better the Hooker for the episode title and they can't have some Californian portrayed as a hick with a gun.

Episode:

Hooker OK:

Broken Bow OK:

 

[Ishtar]

Rewatching Voyager and noticed it had some good takes.

Janeway vehemently against abortion
Dangers of blindly believing "sex" assault victims shown
Dangers of blindly believing medical experts shown
Dangers of how easily history is rewritten/manipulated shown

To know whats become of the series.

Voyager’s portrayal of the Kazon has been attacked as racist(they were inspired by nineties LA gangs).

The coolest thing? It turns out the Kazon really are just Brutish thugs. (Mostly).

Living Witness has the White coded aliens living under black coded rule, but it plays a double reversal with the White coded aliens basically having the same attitude as blacks-including glorifying terrorists as freedom fighters with the black coded aliens acting like Whites having to tolerate guilt lectures at a slavery museum.. Living Witness is honestly really fascinating-it’s woke within anti woke within woke within anti woke.

The Seven sexual assault thing would never be made today.

There’s also the inadvertent way mixed race people are portrayed. B’lanna massively resents her father and struggles to identify with her mother’s heritage. It doesn’t mean to say this is bad-but it’s honestly surprising you get such a real look at why people who are mixed race are often times so angry and have chips on their shoulders.

Tom Paris isn’t the main protagonist but it’s honestly refreshing to see a White guy who is honestly super competent, who matures professionally and personally, but sticks to his principles and who isn’t a doormat. At one point in season 7 when B’lanna is mad he shuts it down with “we’re going to resolve this, right here right now”.

 

[ZMOT]

Tom Paris isn’t the main protagonist but it’s honestly refreshing to see a White guy who is honestly super competent, who matures professionally and personally, but sticks to his principles and who isn’t a doormat. At one point in season 7 when B’lanna is mad he shuts it down with “we’re going to resolve this, right here right now”.

just in modern writing, back then it was way more common. it's also somewhat of a trope they just grabbed from romcoms, think I love lucy where the dude is too dense and incompetent. problem is when you put it in a "serious" environment the way it's done now it's outright malevolent.

S7E12 "Repentance" has the most based scene in all of Star Trek:

remember reading (might've been here) that the "maybe they commit more crimes" is adlibbed. never looked into it if that's actually true tho or just some /tv/ meme/urban myth

That was different. Tuvok was her friend and Neelix was Kes's daddy. In situations like this, feelings are more important than ethical principles.

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

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I thought they required refrigeration suits to oh fuck it we already know the writers give no fucks about anything. Literally a wish.com Krill from The Orville.

I applaud the audacity of the writers, not often you see then hate the legacy of the series they are writing for this much. Well, apart from every other episode of Discovery.

I honestly had no idea they had renewed it for a fifth season, apparently CBS just loves to burn money.

 

[Involuntary Celebrity]

Rewatching TNG again (again) and it's making me wish for a troibridged edit that just cuts every Troi scene. I'm probably the first person to ever notice this but I think Troi is pretty awful, guys.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Rewatching TNG again (again) and it's making me wish for a troibridged edit that just cuts every Troi scene. I'm probably the first person to ever notice this but I think Troi is pretty awful, guys.

Troi as a character was always kinda weird when you think about it. In TOS, Spock would do the Vulcan Mind Meld to give characters that normally can't talk--like the Horta--a voice to characterize them. Troi is supposed to be able to do that 100% of the time. The result is that removing all the limitations of the mind meld tends to make scenes with her in them not that great because she has to say vague things in an attempt to maintain tension and mystery. It's not until they start leaning into her as a psychologist does she start to work as a character and that's by around season 4 or 5.

 

[indomitable snowman]

Rewatching TNG again (again) and it's making me wish for a troibridged edit that just cuts every Troi scene. I'm probably the first person to ever notice this but I think Troi is pretty awful, guys.

Just play this scene

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