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[Beautiful Border]

They only care that ULEZ make carbrain big mad. No further thought needed

The UK has been making some incredibly strange decisions in regard to transport policy recently. There's currently a proposal to ban drivers under 25 from carrying passengers who are also under 25 for the first year they have their license. They would also be banned from driving from midnight to 6 AM. This would mean (for example) a 24 year old mum could be penalized for driving her children to school.

But at the same time this is being proposed, the government also wants to reduce the age you can be qualified to drive a bus from 21 to 18. In other words, if you're an 18 year old bong you apparently can't be trusted to drive around with your mates in your car, but you can be trusted to drive a bus carrying up to 90 people.

 

[AttilaIsTurk]

Using Europe as a generalization while only comparing against the Netherlands is textbook cherry picking. If I am to walk to my nearest Lidl in Greece, I have no choice but to walk more than a kilometer directly on a trafficked road, as there is no walking space off-road. You can't really blame cars since this is pretty much the motorcycle capital of the EU.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The UK has been making some incredibly strange decisions

Has it ever done otherwise?

 

[Jarolleon]

Not even, the majority of missing and murdered Native women never make it off the reserve. The previous Tory government commissioned a big study on it after having their arm twisted by Native advocacy groups, who immediately got SUPER pissed when it revealed the vast majority of perps were other Natives. It's just cooler to make it seem like there's some haunted highway out there, instead of 'yeah she's probably scattered bone shards in the woods right outside the reserve'.

The guy who posted this is a creepy vore fetishist though, so maybe he knows a bit too much about a couple of those missing girls...

Which study was this? When I search for it all I get are the usual suspects saying Harper is the devil for opposing an inquiry.

 

[Atypical Dog]

My eyes always glaze over when I see redditors pull the "for da keedz!!!!" argument. "For the children!" is almost always a grating argument to respond to, but I can at least buy the sincerity of the school board moms actually reproducing and raising their kids properly when they do it. Redditors champion troons, child vaccinations, and draw queen story hour. They spend hours on r/childfree and r/antinatalism bemoaning the state of the world and coping that foregoing children and cooming just makes logical sense with climate change. I'm absolutely convinced the only reason the argument comes out of their rotten cockholsters is because Jason and Chuck Moron put it there.

It's a specific form of the dishonest "it's for your own good" argument you use on kids - great in the moment or for the task at hand, but taken seriously is an implicit surrender of agency, since you allowed other people to figure out what's good for you.

Reddit is all about upvotes, so everything focuses on owns and killshots rather than effortposts.

Not even, the majority of missing and murdered Native women never make it off the reserve. The previous Tory government commissioned a big study on it after having their arm twisted by Native advocacy groups, who immediately got SUPER pissed when it revealed the vast majority of perps were other Natives. It's just cooler to make it seem like there's some haunted highway out there, instead of 'yeah she's probably scattered bone shards in the woods right outside the reserve'.

Hilarious self-own. Is this Canada? This is a typical Canada L.

 

[Rusty Shekelford]

Forgot to include this one in my previous post. Comes from this downdooted post / archive.
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I know I'm late on this post but try delivering this kind of shit with a bike

Little lesson, this is called c900, it carries water lines under the street in neighborhoods and is what every house in any kind of recent development is branched off of. One of those pipes, depending on the size and thickness, can be like 500 pounds. That is for a 12 in diameter, dr14 (thicker of the two generally used), 20 ft length. Fairly standard.
I know its not a pallet, but there are many things that need to be delivered everywhere that are not pallets or small in any way and I think many people have no idea the kind of stuff that goes into infrastructure in the world they live in.

 

[indomitable snowman]

Saw this meme posted on facebook. Most comments were mocking the concept.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Saw this meme posted on facebook. Most comments were mocking the concept.
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That's one of the first macros around, since at least around 2014. There's a lot of reasons why it's dumb, but please tell me why cramming more and more people into the same space is a good idea at all.

 

[Chuck McGill]

Using Europe as a generalization while only comparing against the Netherlands is textbook cherry picking. If I am to walk to my nearest Lidl in Greece, I have no choice but to walk more than a kilometer directly on a trafficked road, as there is no walking space off-road. You can't really blame cars since this is pretty much the motorcycle capital of the EU.

Schroedinger's Europe: When they want to dab on da American carbrains, Europe is le heckin' walkable bikeable paradise. When they want to complain, Europe is becoming so carbrained! Look at this yank tank I found parked somewhere! Look at it!

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Saw this meme posted on facebook. Most comments were mocking the concept.
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Normies taking the piss out of anti-car urbanism. Love to see it.

 

[BulkForceFive]

Which study was this? When I search for it all I get are the usual suspects saying Harper is the devil for opposing an inquiry.

The one done during his reign* by the RCMP, but you have to read between the lines. "Systemic failures to protect women" from who? Where is this Great White Killer who apparently leaves enough evidence behind to show his race, but not his actual identity?

*I can't even remember when Trudy's reign began, it feels like We Have Always Been At War With Eastasia

Schroedinger's Europe: When they want to dab on da American carbrains, Europe is le heckin' walkable bikeable paradise. When they want to complain, Europe is becoming so carbrained! Look at this yank tank I found parked somewhere! Look at it!

Europe, home to such anti-car companies as... Peugot, BMW, Mercedes, Opel, British Leyland, Vauxhall, Citroen... golly they all sound like 'Merican companies that muscled their way into that car-free heaven!

 

[anklyscr]

I know I'm late on this post but try delivering this kind of shit with a bike
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Little lesson, this is called c900, it carries water lines under the street in neighborhoods and is what every house in any kind of recent development is branched off of. One of those pipes, depending on the size and thickness, can be like 500 pounds. That is for a 12 in diameter, dr14 (thicker of the two generally used), 20 ft length. Fairly standard.
I know its not a pallet, but there are many things that need to be delivered everywhere that are not pallets or small in any way and I think many people have no idea the kind of stuff that goes into infrastructure in the world they live in.

I’m sure that 30 odd people on those freight bikes would be more efficient and take up waaaay less space on the roads than that one truck. Sure they’d be able to keep up with the construction guys.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Saw this meme posted on facebook. Most comments were mocking the concept.
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Does a typical city bus even seat 60 passengers? Even then, how often is the bus at max capacity?

 

[TowinKarz]

I know I'm late on this post but try delivering this kind of shit with a bike
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Little lesson, this is called c900, it carries water lines under the street in neighborhoods and is what every house in any kind of recent development is branched off of. One of those pipes, depending on the size and thickness, can be like 500 pounds. That is for a 12 in diameter, dr14 (thicker of the two generally used), 20 ft length. Fairly standard.
I know its not a pallet, but there are many things that need to be delivered everywhere that are not pallets or small in any way and I think many people have no idea the kind of stuff that goes into infrastructure in the world they live in.

They also don't understand how fast even "light" stuff adds up.

A ream of paper doesn't feel all that heavy, but it belies the fact that, being made of wood after all, it's pretty dense.

Even a pallet of only 20 reams of plain old printer paper is going to be a literal exercise to take anywhere on a bike.... just because you can pick it up by hand without effort doesn't mean you can carry as much of it as you like with the same effort.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Does a typical city bus even seat 60 passengers? Even then, how often is the bus at max capacity?

A normal school bus seats 48 adults - mega busses can get higher but not much. Transit busses can do more because of standing room.

Busses are never full for all practical purposes.

 

[Absolutego]

Does a typical city bus even seat 60 passengers? Even then, how often is the bus at max capacity?

A) yes,
B) all the fucking time, especially when downtown counts as a "free ride" area to incentivize transit and it becomes a mix of an ersatz homeless shelter and retail wagies commuting to their jobs.

 

[Jarolleon]

Saw this meme posted on facebook. Most comments were mocking the concept.
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What always gets me about this particular talking point is that they always assume that everyone is trying to get from the same point A to the same point B, which is only true for a college campus or if you work in some compact financial district. They neglect to mention that transit has to stop every block or so because everyone has a different start and end point!

 

[indomitable snowman]

What always gets me about this particular talking point is that they always assume that everyone is trying to get from the same point A to the same point B, which is only true for a college campus or if you work in some compact financial district. They neglect to mention that transit has to stop every block or so because everyone has a different start and end point!

There were other comments on that post saying much the same thing. I would say a good 80-90% of the comments were not having it.
I think is shows him much this anti-car/pro-urbanism is astroturfed. That post popped up in thousands of Facebook normies feeds where they are not liking this content. There 5.7k comments on it and only a couple of the few dozen I scrolled though were remotely positive.
I would say the only time I've been on a full bus has been for any sort of park and ride for events or airports where you're only going a couple miles at most and only 1 stop.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

A) yes,
B) all the fucking time, especially when downtown counts as a "free ride" area to incentivize transit and it becomes a mix of an ersatz homeless shelter and retail wagies commuting to their jobs.

There are crowded city bus lines. This is where the "efficiency" line is drawn, though. If you want public transit to be efficient and profitable, starting slashing stops, routes, and night service. Float that idea to any city council and they'll hate it, because beyond the crying about marginalized people and "rights", it's a public service and not supposed to turn a profit. And while that may be the case, don't tell me how it's a "more efficient" service in the same breath.

 

[Seafarer]

You know...all these urbanists videos are so focused on how single-family houses are bad and how apartments are good, they never address the existing problems of apartments, like all new construction is paper-thin walls, how predatory the myriad of lease agreements, fees, deposits, and fines are, how even if they can't pick and choose who they want anymore, they could at least start building better and build what residents want to see.

Even funnier considering these are the same types who bitch and moan incessantly about landlords.