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[niggers]

At around 56:30 the pedo troon says:

The fuck is a 'treadmill work'?
Did he just make a new term and expect everyone to know what it is?

I mean I can assume its meaning given his retardation, too afraid to say the word 'bullshit' so he doesn't have his adbucks diminished.

do you have a spergout every time you encounter a new phrase? that sounds exhausting

 

[Slav Power]

pedo troon

Zesty Jesus? Pedo troon? That's the first time I hear someone calling him that. Can you substantiate what makes Zesty Jesus a pedophile and a tranny? Unless your brain rotted so much that in your vocabulary words "pedo" and "troon" are generic insults like "idiot" or "retard" and you have an issue with him for some reason.

 

[Willie B. Hardigan]

At around 56:30 the pedo troon says:

The fuck is a 'treadmill work'?
Did he just make a new term and expect everyone to know what it is?

I mean I can assume its meaning given his retardation, too afraid to say the word 'bullshit' so he doesn't have his adbucks diminished.

ZestyJesus might be a narcissistic coomer with a massive buff girl fetish that he kinda shoves in people's faces, but he is absolutely not a pedophile nor a troon in the slightest. His hatred of those two things is the only thing preventing him from being your typical TF2 Youtuber.

In the segment you're talking about I think he was trying to destroy the usual Valve apologist argument that the company is too "spread thin" to do anything about the bots even though they're a massive company with huge resources. The whole "Threadmill Work" term is a new one I haven't heard before because my Twitter or Reddit use is near 0% however what I assume it's referring to is the idea that Valve having to combat the problem with cheaters would always be an uphill battle because it obviously would. That observation has led to some people using it as an excuse to defend Valve for their decision to never put any real effort into fixing the problem at all which again hinges on the "It's too much work for a multibillion-dollar company with hundreds of employees!" cope they often spout for why the game is in the gutter. A lot of jobs are just fixing endless problems so that things can run decently. That's how it's always been.

He probably could have explained it better instead of letting the rant get too far that it becomes lost on people who don't understand the situation as well or are just stupid, but his general argument that the community is blinding themselves from the painful reality and state of the game in the modern day is true. I've already come to this conclusion a long time ago but it's good someone with a large influence is getting the masses to consider it for at least a week or two before they go back into old habits again.

This is part of a series of three or so "bombshell" videos he's making because he's gonna retire from making videos soon apparently so it'll be fun to see what else he's gonna expose, most likely the Workshop drama he always teases. No matter what your stance is, it'll be fun watching the shitstorm from it.

 

[Raw Onion Enjoyer]

Major bugs are timely patched. Also, the scripting ported from other Source games, and a 64 bit update, neither of which are trivial to implement.

Fixing major bugs is the bare minimum they are obligated to do and they still half-ass it. Here's what still works:

While some stuff are just slight bugs, some are serious exploits such as going out of map or entering enemy spawn. They don't care unless it's very bad like the recent Objector crash exploit. 64 bit update was outsourced to some faggot on twitter and Valve barely did anything. And the updates that are still being released are just skins. Not only that, but the Valve employee chooses workshop stuff from the same few creators over and over without caring about the quality at all, Zesty has made quite a few videos about this. You are giving them way too much credit.

 

[Kyangyenki]

Aside from TF2 Emporium monopolizing items that get added to game. Another thing to note is that we had big chance of having actual major community updates but butthurt and greed ruined it. I don't remember specific details but Valve tried slowly making bigger and bigger community updates. Some of users/artists/project organizers kept getting into fighting fit/drama over amount of % they get from item sales or map stamps or project organizers getting too much while being only ideas guy.

Can't blame whatever remains of tf2 team for not wanting to involve themselves with this kind of sperging

 

[Peewee Herman]

I still can't understand why anybody actually hates Zesty Jesus, he's a cool dude and I've actually played lobbies with him and it was a blast. I think Zesty is just what you would get if you moved the average 2010 pre-tranny TF2 player into the modern age. Sure he's a little edgy and a bit of a degen but is otherwise a normal person.

But for some unexplainable reason that makes him public enemy number 1 of the fucking deranged ultra sensitive trannies that mostly populate the game and the subreddit.

 

[GNU Abyss]

Zesty's new "may or may not make the game's economy crash" video is premiering today at 1:00 PM EST.

"If only you knew how bad things really are."

Unorganized thoughts on the video

• Case drop farming is really the missing puzzle piece that puts the whole picture together. I had absolutely no idea that cases are such a huge market. 1 cent per item really starts to add up when you are running a 10000 player strong farm on really thin clients.
• The 100,000 player spike during the latest summer update 3 hours in means whoever was running that bot farm profited massively off the crates being relatively expensive at the very start.
• Megascatterbomb is a massive sperg, however his bots on virtual memory utilizing hard drive space is an interesting thought.
• Laundering your item transactions through only selling for Refined and breaking that down is very clever.
• 15k steady players is a very decent number for a game abandoned by its developers and infested with troons, faggots and furries.
• Nice Scrap.TF foot rest reference during the trader bot segment, Zesty. Guess you're banned from all of Geel's sites now, if you haven't been before

The whole "Threadmill Work" term is a new one I haven't heard before because my Twitter or Reddit use is near 0% however what I assume it's referring to is the idea that Valve having to combat the problem with cheaters would always be an uphill battle because it obviously would.

If I remember right, this is a reference to a GDC talk by a Valve employee on the topic of combating cheaters and bots, where this particular employee described manual bans and general, non-automated community upkeep as "treadmill work". Who would have thought that people who get to work like the laziest Google campus residents turn out to be snooty, useless faggots?

 

[WULULULULU]

Aside from TF2 Emporium monopolizing items that get added to game. Another thing to note is that we had big chance of having actual major community updates but butthurt and greed ruined it. I don't remember specific details but Valve tried slowly making bigger and bigger community updates. Some of users/artists/project organizers kept getting into fighting fit/drama over amount of % they get from item sales or map stamps or project organizers getting too much while being only ideas guy.

Can't blame whatever remains of tf2 team for not wanting to involve themselves with this kind of sperging

Invasion and End of the Line is what you looking for.

 

[John Shedletsky]

Valve is NEVER killing TF2 as long as the game makes money. It's in this weird situation where Valve will never actually implement a true fix for the game, but they'll never fully let it die off. There's just far too much money to be made from hats and skins and the like if the game is kept alive, albeit on life support.

Even if TF2 makes them no money at this point, they have to keep TF2 up. The gist of it is that it would create a domino effect on their other games economies such as CS2 and DOTA 2. People would be panic selling their skins and it would fuck everything that Valve has built up since the 2010s. And this is just being generous by only relegating it to Valve IPs. I can't imagine what it would do to other game economies, since TF2 was the first of its kind. And done in a way that yielded high profit for its time.

 

[Waifu Denier]

Even if TF2 makes them no money at this point, they have to keep TF2 up. The gist of it is that it would create a domino effect on their other games economies such as CS2 and DOTA 2. People would be panic selling their skins and it would fuck everything that Valve has built up since the 2010s. And this is just being generous by only relegating it to Valve IPs. I can't imagine what it would do to other game economies, since TF2 was the first of its kind. And done in a way that yielded high profit for its time.

I doubt it, it has always been implicit that when a server based game dies, any items and money you invested there dies with it. Valve games are some of the few exceptions if anything, because good luck getting something as easy as the Steam Market or even player trading on most of the top multiplayer titles nowadays. Most of them like League don't even have an economy.

 

[SchylurSkavo]

The overdramatics of the video were annoying and the whining at valve at the end was just unnecessary and kind of old hat at this point, I think it's healthier for people to accept the game isn't recovering and to get to the acceptance stage of grief already. The SaveTF2 campaign made everything so hysterical, I get people love the game but how many years of valve not giving a shit is it going to take before you get over it.

 

[MarMar049]

>the 200k peak was a lie
>people genuinely believed the game had that much growth all these years later

 

[TotalNematodeDeath]

Its really obvious just how empty the game is when there is only one set of so called "serious" servers (uncletopia). If the game was 60,000 players strong there would be much more servers like it. Why haven't other youtubers tried what uncle dane did? Because there just isn't anymore demand.

Hell I can barely even find idle servers with people on anymore...

 

[Ambient Occlusion]

I always had my suspicions about how many new players TF2 was actually still bringing in. The main way to play the game has been filled with bots and cheaters for years now. I can imagine any new player would get frustrated and uninstall after a few bot lobbies. Of course there are community servers, but the server browser is tucked away and most new players probably don't even know what a server browser is to begin with.

 

[0x00000C1A]

Zesty's new "may or may not make the game's economy crash" video is premiering today at 1:00 PM EST.

"If only you knew how bad things really are."

Zesty calling scrap.tf "footrest.tf" was the only highlight from that hour.


Reference

 

[Crex Crex]

I still can't understand why anybody actually hates Zesty Jesus

He doesn't like troons.
That's it.

 

[Mad Mamba]

Just finished the video. Very well put together, and leaves me slightly conflicted. On the one hand, the community is absolutely awful and deserves all the misfortune and misery it gets. On the other hand, automated money printing on this scale seems legally dubious at best and I wonder if Valve could possibly be charged with running what is essentially a scam (offering a game that doesn't fucking work and refusing to fix it because the bots earn them so much revenue).

 

[ReceiveAndAsk]

I wonder if Valve could possibly be charged with running what is essentially a scam (offering a game that doesn't fucking work and refusing to fix it because the bots earn them so much revenue).

Good luck finding a lawyer willing to take this case without just doing it for the money.

 

[SomeSpook]

TF2's player counts are highly inflated. If you want to see the actual player count of the game, then you need to go to this site https://teamwork.tf/community/statistics. The number of actual players instead of bots always remains at a consistent 11 to 12,000 players.

 

[Willie B. Hardigan]

TF2's player counts are highly inflated. If you want to see the actual player count of the game, then you need to go to this site https://teamwork.tf/community/statistics. The number of actual players instead of bots always remains at a consistent 11 to 12,000 players.

> TF2 Youtubers in 2016: "Competitive mode will save the game!"
> The highest number of people in a single Competitive TF2 match over a week was 18 people.

The absolute state of "Competitive TF2" in 2024. I would laugh if it wasn't so sad to see. Meet Your Match was such a travesty of an update.